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All of my opinions are based on my miniscule amount of law enforcement knowledge. After Zimmerman lost sight of Martin the best thing for him to have done would be to tell law enforcement the general direction that he last saw Martin heading. I hear people in these threads say "play stupid games, win stupid prizes". Zimmerman started the game and may win the ultimate prize.

I'll agree that Martins future didn't look very bright, but on that night he didn't have any of those items that you mentioned. He only possessed the Skittles and iced tea that everyone likes to joke about.

Yep, he was the shiny new unknown turd.

I hope that we don't use that logic, because if we do my actions between the age of 14 and the time that I joined the Army would have made me public enemy #1.

My call is that Zimmerman gets off with time served.

Team Jacob! Wolves are cool.

You are smarter than that Robert. You are dumbing down your logic for the approval of the lynch mob. I approve of neighborhood watches. I don't approve of watchmen doing investigations or injecting themselves into the action. Whatever that young man was doing, Zimmermans only responsibility was to observe and report.

You are correct Robert, but the job of the watchman is only to observe and report . We all know that when people play security a bit too long the lines get blurred and they start believing that they really have authority.

[qbecauseuote name="BigK" post="975140" timestamp="1369447504"]Maybe Zimmerman WAS being a busy-body and shouldn't have gotten involved. Maybe he shouldn't have followed Martin to see where he went. Maybe he shouldn't have confronted him and/or asked him what he was up to. BUT, none of that is illegal, none of that warrants being physically assaulted, and none of that justifies a murder charge. In far too many cases, by the time the cops show up to a non-emergency call like this started out as the bad guy is long gone. All it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing. Well Zimmerman may not be an angel, but I think he was doing the right thing by keeping a suspicious looking person in sight so he could report back to the cops.[/quote] Even if Zimmermann gets off I'll still be satisfied. He has made a hard bed for himself because he wanted to play cop. "Watch Captain", ha!

Whatever works.

It doesn't matter what either of them were before that night or what they aspired to be. I'll maintain that if the "watch captain“ had let the real cops do their job that night we wouldn't be talking abouth this.

Understood.  Enjoy your new vehicle.

Great story. I had something similar happen to me on a smaller scale and to this day I'll bet that you can still buy that guy for a quarter.  So many life lessons in that story, but if I could only share one part of the story, it would be the part about everyone deserving respect simply because they walk among us.  It would benefit our society if everyone took this lesson to heart.

Car salesmen are like politians, they are going to put on whatever show you want to see.  In another life, I sold cars briefly after I got out of the army.  In that brief amount of time I can't tell you how many "arguments and butt kickings" that I received for the benefit of the customer.  At the end of the day, it's all about moving units.  If someone has kiss your butt for a few hours to move a unit it will be done and then on to the next one.  Same with the service departments.  They don't have to be sincere.  They only need to give you the warm fuzzies, because you need to come back with an open wallet.   Looks like things are going to work out for you.  Congradulations!

Good luck finding a truck. I never discount other peoples experiences. This kind of thing happens to people of all races everyday. Now you will be better equipped to understand when someone else perceives that they have been a victim of racism. Chalk it up to being a learning experience.

Everyone in my house has the Pepper Blaster II. Thirty five dollars and effective for seven years. That's a go.

Wow!  CCI mini-mags must cost $500.

That sucks to hear.  I have to visit Princeton in July, and that's after a trip to Ithaca, NY next month.  I'm not looking forward to being unarmed on either trip.

Same here. Coming up on a year pretty soon. I put down a deposit and waited for them to call.

I agree. The request is insane. I moved in, so you have to change. Ridiculous!

Enjoy! Just got a Milt Sparks VMII for mine and I talked Paul at PJ Holster into making some kydex holsters for the MK25 when he has the time.

I'll second the M&P 22.

I love mine.  Great looking and accurate.  A fun plinker.  One of the guns that I don't plan sell.  The only ammo that I use is CCI AR Tactical and mini-mags, so I haven't had any issues.

And those of us who supported Dr. Paul are just flat out crazy.:)

I'm certain of that. I'm simply pointing to the fact that the demographics of this country are changing very fast. Republicans have a lot in common with millions of members of the minority group that will inevitably become the majority over the next couple of decades. The party has to embrace those similarities, sell the values of the party, grow strong and wins some elections. Or, the party can keep doing the same things, continue to alienate people and putting up bad candidates until the day that we will have a president who makes the current POTUS look like the best thing since sliced bread.