leroy

Mike: Find some of our buddies that are SASS shooters. I'm sure there are some in the Nashville area. They could probably point ya to someone who handles the ubertis. While i on the subject; i love the ubertis, especially the Cimmarons. We have several cap and ball revolvers. The fit and finish is good. The action may need tinkering with; but that aint a big deal. leroy

Weve got one (...a single shot; no receiver cut for magazine. Makes the action stiffer...). It is a 300 win mag with a wooden stock bedded with devcon and free floated 28 inch remington proof barrel. With a high magnification scope (...16x...), it will shoot better than i can hold. If i remember right; it would shoot about 1/2 to 5/8 at 300 yards off a roll shootin from the prone position. They were the gold standard of the long range rifles 30 or so years ago. They used to be used in national match and long range (....1000 yd...) shooting before the custom rifles came into vogue. No idea what one is worth today. leroy

Thanks for posting this. I've seen it before; and i think its a a great approach that cuts thru all the baloney assumptions. The fact is that nothing trumps accuracy with pistol, rifle, or shotgun. The second thing is that it takes more than one shot to finish most attackers off. The fact is that there aint no "magic bullets" and their aint no "magic calibers". As the great Baron Von Steuben told the continental riflemen (...i think it wuz him...). The most important thing is "accuracy and precision" in shootin. leroy

Thanksgiving is a time to be thankful for family and God's blessing. I always try to be thankful on the other 364 days in the year too. Sometimes i have trouble and whine a bit; but im tryin to quit. All that bein said; ive worked every "holiday" or "family event" there is; except Christmas; and i may have worked one Christmas day (...cant remember....). Most of the time it wuz away from home. My employer payed me for everyone of them. For that i am thankful. I know what it means to be away from home and family on special days. My job required it; and that's what i did. All that is part of bein an adult. As Mike said above, it's another day of the week. Celebrate when you are off. Lots of people will be workin on Thanksgiving. They keep the water, electricity, tv, and internet on. They will move the freight by rail, truck, air, and sea. They keep you safe from monsters both at home and abroad. If ya get sick, they will care for you. The list goes on and on. The point is that in this country, we all need to be thankful. We may not like everything thats goin on; but most everyone of us has more than they need to eat, a place to live, a job to go to (....some or most...), and no one is commin to kick our door down and take what they want. More than that, we are armed. I say: "....Happy Thanksgiving to all. It dont matter when ya celebrate it...!! We are all very blessed!!!....". leroy

As my 23 year old is fond of sayin: "....A certain amount of nuttiness and outlandishness is necessary everywhere. It keeps everybody thinkin....!....". The original poster did us all a favor. We wondered if it wuz true and how it could be done. I see that as a good thing. leroy

I like it!! Enjoy!! PS: Cant wait to see the range report! leroy

Great pup!!!! enjoy!! leroy

Dave: [quote]....Nonsense (...[i].to the "big government contractor thing -- leroy addition[/i]....). 70% of Boeings sales are overseas and Boeing is one of the largest exporters of manufactured goods in the U.S. [/quote] Check this out: [quote] [b] Revenues as Reported[/b] [b]Boeing Co., Income Statement, Revenues[/b] USD $ in millions [url="http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/Spreadsheet/NYSE/Company/Boeing-Co/Analysis/Revenues.xls"][img]http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/images/spreadsheet-24x24.png[/img][/url] [url="http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/Spreadsheet/NYSE/Company/Boeing-Co/Analysis/Revenues.ods"][img]http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/images/open-office-24x24.png[/img][/url] 12 months ended Dec 31, 2011 Dec 31, 2010 Dec 31, 2009 Dec 31, 2008 Dec 31, 2007 [url="http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/Chart/NYSE/Company/Boeing-Co/Analysis/Revenues/5-8-5-3"][img]http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/images/chart-bar-16x16.png[/img][/url] Commercial Airplanes 36,171 31,834 34,051 28,263 33,386 [url="http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/Chart/NYSE/Company/Boeing-Co/Analysis/Revenues/5-8-5-4"][img]http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/images/chart-bar-16x16.png[/img][/url] Boeing Military Aircraft 14,947 14,238 14,057 13,492 13,685 [url="http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/Chart/NYSE/Company/Boeing-Co/Analysis/Revenues/1-2-7-7-5"][img]http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/images/chart-bar-16x16.png[/img][/url] Network & Space Systems 8,673 9,455 10,877 11,338 11,696 [url="http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/Chart/NYSE/Company/Boeing-Co/Analysis/Revenues/1-2-7-7-6"][img]http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/images/chart-bar-16x16.png[/img][/url] Global Services & Support 8,356 8,250 8,727 7,217 6,699 [url="http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/Chart/NYSE/Company/Boeing-Co/Analysis/Revenues/1-2-7-7-7"][img]http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/images/chart-bar-16x16.png[/img][/url] Boeing Defense, Space & Security 31,976 31,943 33,661 32,047 32,080 [url="http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/Chart/NYSE/Company/Boeing-Co/Analysis/Revenues/1-2-7-7-8"][img]http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/images/chart-bar-16x16.png[/img][/url] Boeing Capital Corporation 532 639 660 703 815 [url="http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/Chart/NYSE/Company/Boeing-Co/Analysis/Revenues/1-2-7-7-9"][img]http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/images/chart-bar-16x16.png[/img][/url] Other segment 138 138 165 567 280 [url="http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/Chart/NYSE/Company/Boeing-Co/Analysis/Revenues/1-2-7-8-0"][img]http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/images/chart-bar-16x16.png[/img][/url] Unallocated items and eliminations (82) (248) (256) (671) (174) [url="http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/Chart/NYSE/Company/Boeing-Co/Analysis/Revenues/Revenues-Ending-Balance"][img]http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/images/chart-bar-16x16.png[/img][/url] [url="http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/Knowledge-Base/Revenues"]Revenues[/url] 68,735 64,306 68,281 60,909 66,387 Source: Boeing Co. Annual Reports [/quote] Got it from here: [url="http://www.stock-analysis-on.net/NYSE/Company/Boeing-Co/Analysis/Revenues"]http://www.stock-ana...alysis/Revenues[/url] Check the math for 2011. US gubmt business: 31,976. Commercial planes: 36,171. Total; 68,735. 46.5% gubmt business. I dont know about you; but it looks pretty like a pretty big part of their business to me. leroy

Dave: RE: This. [quote].....No one is making anyone join a union. The NLRB was reacting to union breaking tactics being used by Boeing. They have their SC non-union plant. .... [/quote] South Carolina is a "right to work state". We can quibble about the details; but the way i see things; the South Carolina thing wuz nothin more than a chance to punish a "right to work" state and help a "closed shop" state under the guise of "labor fairness"; which is baloney anyway; because all government contracts of any size require either a "closed shop" or a "prevailing wage" based on union scale (...the Bacon-Davis act....). I'm even willing to grant that Boeing wuz engaging in union busting activities. All that bein said; you can bet that the NLRB wuz doing what they were doin for political reasons; because that's what they do. The NLRB is nothin more than a congregation of mad dog political hacks makin the best of any opportunities they might have to push their political enemies around under the guise of "partnering with labor". If they happended to do the "right thing" (....according to the union model....); you can bet they did it for the wrong reasons. It's nothin more than a "scorched earth" opportunist political move; pure and simple. Nothin more than advancing the union political model at best; or punishing enemies of the state at worst. The fact is, and has been, that the federal government favors union membership and has since 1933. This is a fact, not conjecture. The reason: its politically expedient--- it used to, and still does buy votes. Even with the large government meddling into private company affairs; union membership today is in the neighborhood of 7% or so (....excluding government type unions--state, local, federal...). We've been havin a referendum on union membership over the last 80 or so years. The unions gained members thru the 50's but have been steadily loosin them for the last 60 or so years. The high wuz at about 36%; its now 7% (...about 13%, if ya count government unions....). I aint beating ya or anybody else up that belongs to the union. Anyone may belong to the union or not if they want to (...presuming one is available...); but dont demand that one be set up or meddle in the business decisions of the companies doin business; nor tell companies where they are gonna do business. The NLRB is nothin more than a lapdog for whatever the current political regieme wants to do. The only reason that the NLRB could meddle in the Boeing thing is that Boeing is a government contractor; and depends almost exclusively on the government for it's business. The fact is that the SC plant would have had to pay the "equivalent wage scale" for non-union work in SC that it would have paid in Washington state due to the closed shop thing due to the terms of the Bacon-Davis Act to fulfill the terms of the government contracts they would work on. There is no federal contract of any size (....certainly not airplane size...) that does not include a requirement to involk the terms of the Davis-Bacon Act which essentially mandated a "union equivalent" wage; it's simply called a "prevailing wage". Wages (...and contract cost....) would have been a wash either way; all things considered. This Boeing thing was, indeed, the NLRB flexing its muscles and pickin winners and loosers. My guess is that it wuz punishing a republican administration in SC and rewarding a demorat administration in WA. I predict you will see more of it. I also predict you will see more attempts by the federal government to mitigate or meddle in the "right to work" thing; because it's repeal is the holy grail of the labor movement; and the demorats are beholdin to big labor. Here is an interestin discussion of the "right to work" thing: [url="http://www.sba.gov/community/blogs/community-blogs/business-law-advisor/unions-right-work-states-vs-non-right-work-st-0"]http://www.sba.gov/c...right-work-st-0[/url] . Here is a list of "right to work" states: [quote]....Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Nebraska, Nevada, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Wyoming...[/quote] Notice there aint any "blue" right to work states (...outside of Indaina: [url="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/02/us/indiana-becomes-right-to-work-state.html..."]http://www.nytimes.c...k-state.html...[/url]). leroy

Dave: RE: This question: ...."Who is forcing unionization on anyone?..." Remember the NLRB and Boeing in SC? SC is a "right to work" state. An accomodation wuz reached here because Boeing is a federal contractor; and they negotiated with the NLRB and reached an "accomodation" (...read that: the feds told boeing they would turn the big contracts off if they didnt seek an accomodation....). The SC boeing plant lost work and Boeing agreed to send more work back to the Seattle, WA plant that is unionized and had struck. That effectively took work from SC workers and send to work to striking workers in Seattle. I predict ya will see some fighting pretty quick over this in other "right to work" states. Think "card check" here instead of "secret ballot" on unionization. What's goin on now is just another round of meddling and union patronage. The original "forcing unionization" thing manifested itself in 1933 when the great god roosevelt came down on the side of the unions in the west virginia coalfields. He did, in fact, force unionization on those who did not want it. leroy

[quote name='Hershmeister' timestamp='1353244409' post='847528'] Lester - your boyles law example assumes a fixed pie (no pun intended) As the Chinese workers make more money their wage expectations grow. [/quote] The "fixed pie" thing is very important. When ya have a government that assumes the "fixed pie" model (...as does nobama and all other socialist leanin jackasses....); ya tend to kill the means for makin the pie bigger. That is:... gettin up off of producers (...think "war on coal" here, union work rules (...think hurricane sandy and long island....), forcing unionization on "right to work" states, etc... Those moves either makes the pie fixed or makes it smaller. I think that today, it makes the pie smaller because of lester's analysis of the multinational companies movin to more business friendly locations (....think jeep thinkin about movin from cleveland to china here...). We've (....the collecive "we"; both demorat and republican administrations; much more with nobama, however...)...) been whoopin up on business for a pretty long time. The chickins are commin home to roost. That's the "world economy" suckin sound ya hear --- jobs movin to other countries because the colletive we and our political pimps are meddlin in the ecomomy and pickin "winners and loosers". All those who work for a company and are represented by a union need to remember that it makes no difference what the wage scale and venefits packages are if there aint any jobs. Remember, Adam Smith's "Wealth of Nations" says that ya create wealth via the capitalist model. We here in amerika tend to meddle too much in it. It's the sport of both parties. leroy

Flood damaged cars man!! They are tryin to get ya to walk around the "lemon law". My bet is that these cars are hurricane damaged or somethin close. They are afraid that there a good chance of a serious electronic or grounding problem that could show up pretty quick. Good for you not signing. leroy

[quote name='S&WForty' timestamp='1353178290' post='847258'] Leroy, since you've spent a lot on holsters already, to save some $, buy a kit from Old Faithful holsters. The stage 3 kit is $39 with the std leather. All you do is assemble it. Check out stage 1 and 2 as well. While researching holsters, I read on another forum where even Crossbreed is not the original maker of the hybrid leather/kydex design, but they have been the most successful and everyone recognizes them as the originator. Theis Holsters is another alternative, but the cheapest way to try this style out is Old Faithful. [/quote] Thanks S&W; ill take a look and probably send them some dollars too. leroy

[quote name='Runco' timestamp='1353104245' post='846837'] If round means like +300lbs, yes it works great for me (Crossbreed), just wear at the 5pm position. [/quote] [quote name='NashvegasMatt' timestamp='1353172461' post='847226'] hahaha... well, im not particularly round, but It's all about the placement of the holster as well... I'm a 5:30 guy myself... i know plenty of 3:00 people though. even a handful of 2:30's [/quote] Thanks guys. Ive got a pretty good Andrews holster that works fair; but it's pretty narrow . My problem is gettin one to work in the 5:30 neighborhood. I cant seem to find the sweet spot right in the kidney region. I always get pinched a bit. Matts post about the placement of the holster is dead on. What always happens to me is i buy a pretty good holster thinkin i can make it work; try it and get a bit uncomfortable; and wind up carrying the glocks in my hip pocket at the end of all the holster buying. Exactly where i started to begin with, only poorer by the cost of the most recent holster. I've got andrews leather, bullard, el paso, and everything else ya can think of. I havent tried the crossbreed (...or one of their clones yet...). I always wind up carryin the baby glocks in my hip pocket or overall jacket pocket. It's a sickeness, i guess. Thanks a bunch. leroy

Do any "round men" use the "supertuck"? If so, how's it workin out for ya? leroy

Looks to me like the hamas children and Iran have called the fire down. The pesky jews will make short work of hamas and probably Iran as well. I think we are about to see the "gates of hell unleashed" (...to borrow the hamas propaganda....) on the hamas children everywhere; now that the pesky jews have a decent anti missile system, improved smart weaponry, and the assurance that the Nobamaites wont help. I predict that we may well hear the rumble of a few earth boring nukes in the neighborhood of Iran in a few days. I say: "...God bless the pesky jews (...He will anyway...)...". I think this will look pretty much like the Osirak Reactor Raid in the early eighties and the Syrian raid (...alKibar; i think....). The world (...including the great Nobama and his pimps...) will take turns villifying the jews in the UN for being warmongers; but it wont make any difference. The guilty will be dead, incenerated, or just blowed up. The pesky jews will have cleaned up another problem without the help of the rest of the world. They will be villified for it; but the world will owe them a great debt of gratitude. The jews dont need our help; it's just a "nice to have". I say: "....Sickem IDF and IDAF!! Kill 'em till they leave ya alone (...again...)....". leroy

Heres some good news for Kerry: http://moonbattery.com/?p=21076 enjoy leroy

When i saw the title of the post; i thought it wuz what the dems used to buy votes in certain neighborhoods. In the old days it used to be a half pint of Old Crow. Sorry for the confusion. leroy

Remember this. It makes no difference what the negotiated benefits are if there aint a business to work at and a job to do. Another case of killin the goose who laid the golden egg and puttin more folks on the dole. Welcome to nobama's workers paradise. leroy

Lester makes a great point there: [quote]....Vermont may have one of the oldest and biggest secession movements-- Because the USA is too redneck and ain't socialist enough to suit Vermont's sensibilities. Going back to that "don't let the screen door hit you" regionalist vibe which might likely accompany actual secessions.....[/quote] I think the "secession" thing is, as Lester so eloquently put it: "...A regionalist vibe...."; and its vibin now. In my mind, the next step of the "regionalist vibe" would like like the state(s) (...individually or in groups....) first going to court over whatever "rule" or federal law they dont like; then "nullifying" any law or rule they thought wuz wrong for their particular state. Think of the "right to work" vs "closed shop" thing. I expect that the logical end of this would be a loose confederation of states; each bound by like mindedness on issues dear to that particular people group --- like personal responsibility, workin for a livin, keepin some of your money ya make, spending it as ya see fit, etc, ect. -- on and on. The federal government would be reduced to collecting taxes (...which they would have to send back to the indiviidual states in "block grants"...) and "providing for the common defense". Just like the Founding Fathers envisioned. A truly novel idea. Think blue states that like everything the nobamanites are doin and red states that like folks to have some control over their lives and finances. It's the ole"....birds of a feather flock together thing...". This time there may not be enough birdseed to go around in the blue states. A good contrast would be what ya see in Kalafornia vs what ya see in Texas. It's easy to see that the states are already doin this. Look at industrial growth and state government fiscal responsibility in the red states vs the blue states. I predict that the "secession' movement is actually the "states rights" movement. The federal government would loose power over individual states (....think federal "rules" here; along with "mandates", uniform program rules (...welfare, medicare, etc...), and enviornmental regs (...think coal and water use permits...) and the state governments would determine their own policies based on the "shared values"of that particular state. I think some "stealth secession" has been goin on for sometime now. That's why ya have growth in the states where somewhat fiscally responsible adults are runnin the show, and net losses of jobs in the places like kalefornia. That is also why this current crop of nobamaites are pushin back in places like wisconsin and south carolina (...think boeing here...) and talkin about instituting "card check" so they can intimidate non-nuion leaning workers in "right to work" states. Its payback and "reprisal" against those who dont see it the nobama "chicago way". It's interestin to me that we now have 33 republican administrations in the states. Food for thought. leroy

I'm a round man that weighs in the neighborhood of 300 lbs; always wuz. In the "old days" i used to work lots of 12 hour days climbing on red iron, wading in fly ash (...very hard on everything...), water, mud, and coal dust; all walkin and climbing a mile or two a day. I always wore redwings (....the 8 to 12 inch lineman type laceups or the moc toe laceups; depending on the mood...). The redwings were the only boots that i could stand up in all day and that would actually last over a couple of years in that type of use. I always put a pair of spenco insoles in the boots; and my feet were always fine. They were the only boots that would keep their shape and not break down in the arches from the heavy load i put on them. We worked lots of rough jobs in which these boots were worn every day, six (...sometimes seven...) days a week for months. Most any other boot would wear out and get way out of shape pretty quickly. The redwings always held up. When the redwings needed re-soling; the cost used to be in the neighborhood of $35. I've never had a pair of White's packers; but i suspect they are the next step up from the redwings. The problem is that the price will more than double with them. I've tried the "good" Danners. They did not fit my feet as well as the redwings. Redwings are an excellent boot. I think that they are the best of the "ready made" boots. They are well worth the money. Hope this helps a bit. leroy

6.8 makes several good points in his post above (...#72..) here. My take on all this is that im a relatively old coot (...66...) and ive never seen as much divisiveness (...other than the vietnam thing...) and grousing about the sorryness of government than ive been hearing and seeing for the last four years. This current crop of idiots has managed to drive the wedge deeper and drag the issues further down the road quicker with their high handed tactics than ive ever seen before. They have re-opened wounds between the government, the people, and the individual states that were inflicted via the bayonet in the post civil war period. They shouldn't have done that. When these issues are re-visited; i predict that there will not be enough carpetbaggers and thugs to enforce much of what they dream of doing. Further, they dont have an army of occupation to enforce this stuff. I predict (...and sincerely hope and pray...) they will loose bad in court. Otherwise, there could be some trouble. When you have otherwise solid citizens talking succession and have third partys like the Tea Party(s) in various states talkin about the things they are talkin about; with bad words dricted toward both political parties and the government; those in those parties and the political operatives need to be concerned. RE: Violence directed toward those in government. The nobama regieme and its operatives dont need to worry about violent harm comming from the "Rs" and the various freedom loving groups. For the most part, those groups are law abiding citizens who work for a living, and are genuinely concerned about the direction the country is being taken in. The politicos need to be worried about their far left socialist bastard brothers and commie philistine harlot sisters who dont think that they are doin enough to bring the beautiful utopian socialist paradise to the good ole usa. Remember, Jared Loughner aint a right wing nut; he is a left wing nut. leroy

David said a great thing here: [quote]....Dogs are probably the one living example of God's unconditional love for us.....[/quote] I firmly believe God created the dog as a concrete, terrestrial example of what He is like. He created the cat as a concrete, terrestrial example of what we humans are like. I well remember when killin a dog for any reason short of attacking you, your family members, or livestock wuz up there with killin a family member. leroy

The "Brotherhood" better leave the pesky jews alone. They are much safer sittin around and sayin bad things about them; rather than doin things about them. Every time they spar a bit; they get a bloody nose. There is no one about who can restrain the pesky jews sould they start a housecleaning in the middle east (...which im ok with, by the way...). Its like TMF posted about the "criteria being met". The islamopigs need to operate "below the threshold criteria"; its safest that way for these islamo children to look important to their chained constituencies. I wonder who the next Hamas chief is that is dumb enough to play a bit of "Freedom Fighter and Oppressor" with the IDF? My bet is he wont last long either. Im ok, even enthusiastic about this; as long as we dont help with boots or dollars.. after all, the Heebs dont need any help anyway. leroy

This is a bad thing. I've seen seriously bad things happen over incidents like this. leroy