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I concur with those who recommend short barrel pump shotguns for home defense.  I really like the mossberg 500 series guns that have the safety on top of the tang instead like the old remingtons and winchesters side safeties in front of the trigger guard.  I've got a short barrelled browning BPS beside my bed with a tang safety (...they are bottom eject shotguns; the mossberg and most others are side eject...).  I chose it because i got a good buy on it from a buddy here on  TGO; and because im a shotgun "junkie".  It's a plane jane 18 inch pump with a magazine extension.  It is loaded and ready to go (...one in the chamber...). Nightrunner is exactly right in his post above. Should trouble come; you need to be ready.  All i have to do is push the safety forward should (...God forbid...) i need it in some terrible situation.  I like the 2 3/4 loads for the 12 gage guns.  We can quibble about which shot size is best; but at household ranges it aint gonna make much difference.  I would recommend (...as others have done as well...) a set of good sights.   The only other point i would make is to handle and shoot your shotgun until you are absolutely familiar with it.  Many times we overlook this point in our discussions, because we automatically assume everyone else is a regular shooter, but ya need to be able to handle your weapon of choice without havin to look at it or without tryin to remember where everything is.  You need to know with certainity how to operate it.  Get yourself a bunch of reasonably priced ammo and burn a bunch of it thru your shotgun.  Get familiar with it.  It's a skill ya need to cultivate, its fun and it may be (...God forbid...)  necessary if that terrible day comes when you have to level it at an intruder or nut to stop him.   Hope this helps leroy

They look good!!!   Keep up the good work. leroy

He has got to know better than this.  My take on it is that he is a lap dog for the Obamaites trying to fool the muslum population (...and other low information children...) into believing there are limits on free political speech.   It's nothing but pandering to the "blue state children".  This has already been ruled on.  You cannot muzzle free political speech; no matter how heinous it may seem to some readers or hearers or seers.  The constitutional lawyer types on both sides of the political spectrum would love to see him make a move on this one.  They may come and give someone a little talkin to and 'interview" them under the guise of a factfinding mission; but they will never prosecute anyone.  They cant afford to.  Remember the Ted Nugent speech at the NRA convention (...http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/secret-looking-ted-nugent-violent-anti-obama-message-225142639.html     ...) ?   Check this one out too:  http://archive.firstamendmentcenter.org/Speech/internet/news.aspx?id=24103   Check this one out too:  http://www.uscourts.gov/educational-resources/get-involved/legal-concepts/rule-law/express-unpopular-views.aspx     I say its a bluff, nothin more.   leroy

This "gay scout" thing is another accommodation to the "balkanization" of america by those who hate the system and intend to re-write the immutable laws.  The Boy Scouts (...and others, some of them churches...) have chosen to accomodate the whims of pop culture; the current whim is "...its ok to blab and brag about your sexuality and orientation....".  I think this move is probably the death knell to the current Boy Scout organization.     I think the issue of the BSA and the church is an "apples and oranges" thing.  Heres why:  The BSA is a private, benelovent institution that teaches self-reliance and morality (... check the scout oath out here:     The "rub" here is two fold.  The first is the definition of "morality".  The "old definition" called homosexuality a perversion; hardly a morally straight condition.  The "new definition"; applied in the military and in other sectors today by our political masters , is "...its ok to be homosexual....; its simply a lifestyle choice....".   What you have here is a re-definition of morality (...endorsed by government and other interest groups eg: "...group morality...) that changes the "old definition".  "Evolution as some would say.  I wuz a boy scout myself many years ago; and i simply dont remember the issue of sexual orientation comming up as part of the "Boy Scout Way".  The reason; homosexual behavior (...as well as promiscuitous behavior...)  was considered immoral behavior that no polite society talked about; and the Boy Scouts and their supporters well understood it to be so.  There may have been those in the ranks of the BSA that were "gay" and some were probably "promiscuitous", but they were quiet.  I think that was exacly has they should have been.    This current move is nothing more than the destruction of an organization that has done much good as a sacrifice to the "god of tolerance".   In this country we are busily killing off any semblance of "biblical morality" as somehow "intolerant".  This is simply the product of the "jhadist" who whant to change the immutable rules.  "GLT" jhadism is simply the latest iteration.  My guess is that the BSA has been murdered at the hands of the jhadists and the accomodators to pop culture.   As to the church thing (...taking a stand against certain behaviors and organizations...).  It should be understood that the church is a "house of prayer" and a "haven for the lost sinner" and a non-judgmental place where the Gospel Message can be heard and accepted if the affected soul wants to be accepted into the Family of God.  God calls the lost to Salvation.  That means everybody; saint, sinner, jhadist, gay boy scouts, gay non-scouts, everybody;.... period.... .   That means that the door should be open as to salvation.  Scripture teaches (...and i believe them...) that God loves the sinner and hates the sin.   That means that all who are willing are welcome.  The correctly constituted "church" should operate on that model.  This is the "greatest outreach" of the church and the fullfillment of the "Great Commission".    There are some qualifications however.  The plain reading of scripture defines immorality in brutally plain terms.  That means that there has to be some inward changes made to the "immoral lifestyle" and the church has the duty to obey the principles of scripture.  Viewed in that light, alone, the church has the right to "turn out" individuals and organizations who do not share the values and principles that the church is founded on.   So this thing cuts both ways; the church is a "home for sinners"; but it also has a duty to  to abide by those principles outlined in scripture.   Thhis whole thing (...in my view...) has murdered the presently constituted BSA, put the church on the spot in some locations, and has given the enemies of God great occasion to blaspheme Him no matter which side of this arguement ya come down on.  The real loosers in this "rewriting of the immutable laws" are society in general, and the Boy Scouts specifically.   Thats how i see things this mornin.   leroy

I dont think ya can beat any of the "today" 1911's; no matter the flavor.  I like the lightweight models myself.  I would love to have a full size lightweight; but ive got other places to put the dollars to...., sadly... .  The CNC tooling revolution has made all the currently made 1911's better than the old colts and essex put togethers were; even those "tuned" by custom gunsmiths.  You could quibble a bit about the bullseye guns like the Gold Cups and the custom target pistols; but i believe the EDC, "reliable" older gunsmithed pistols aint as good as todays off the shelf pistols (...i think...) due to the ease in getting the close tolerances needed for them without a gunsmith rubbin on the parts to tighten them up.  The CNC tolerances are that good.   I say:  Pick out the 1911 ya like with the features ya like for the price ya like; and start shootin.  Ya cant do better as to power, lethality, nor quick rounds on target.  That's why the military likes 'em.  If they were good enough for the great Frank Hamer, they are good enough for any gunfight.  You will enjoy it.  If it hiccups a bit; take it to a local 1911 smith and he can fix anything that needs tweakin a bit; and you will be in business; either as a defensive handgun or for fun.   I carried a lightweight commander (...Colt...) for a while in the "old days"; they are great carryin gun.  I put mine up and switched to glocks because glocks are cheap and the 1911's are gettin too valuable.  I couldnt countenance the possibility of my beloved 1911 sittin in an evidence locker for several years if (...God forbid...) I had to use it in a defensive shootin.  I dont care about the glocks; they are like a hammer or handsaw; but they work very well and carry very well.   Enjoy. leroy

daddyo:  I like your para military!!  It looks good.  Looks to me like ya had a big time at the Blade Show.  That's why i cant go; too many temptations!!  As to spydercos; i like them.   They are light, sharp, and well made.  I EDC a FRN endura 4 in my left front pocket.  It's light, has a four inch blade, and is sharp as a razor.   I keep my ZT 200 or a ZT 700 in my hip pocket; or even an ESEE izula in a "knives ship free" pocket sheath (...looks like a wallet/sheath combination...) depending on what i pick up each mornin.  I'm a "knife junky"myself.    Enjoy!! leroy ps---mike;  You really, really need a spyderco.  HEHEHE.  I think ya would like a military (...4 inch blade...).

Mike:  Glad to see ya got things worked out. I may need to adjust the pivot nut a bit too.  I can flip mine fine; but the blade weight alone wont push to lock up.  I like the 200 too; it's about the right size and blade shape.  I like a big knife that ya can carry in a hip pocket.  Your 200 is the exact fit for that service.   Enjoy! leroy

gn:  After using an old 48 inch/ 18 hp cub cadet for 16 years to mow about an acre; i finally used it all up, gave it away, and bought a "new to me" Hustler Fastrak (...2006 model...).  It has cut my lawn mowing time by about 1/3 (...i have several trees and trim around flower beds and fence...).  It is a 52 inch cut Fastrak with a 20 HP honda. It is undoubtedly the best lawnmower ive ever used.  It's fast, rugged, and runs like a dream.   I gave $2000 for this little jewel that had been retired and traded in on a new model.  As others have said, the zero turn mower is the "tomorrow" of lawn mowing.   I would shop around if i had the time to find a good deal.   Check out a hustler, they are a great machine.   Hope this helps.   leroy

Mike:  Glad to see ya got the ZT200.  It's a great thing.  I slicked mine up a bit by takin a toothpick and greasing the lock mechanism with a bit of my best gun grease (...slip 2000, i think...).  Open the knife and look at the lock.  There is a little raised divot  (...i think to keep the lock sliding friction while the knife blade flips open to a minimum...) on the side of the lockface that rubs the blade as the blade opens and closes.  I used a toothpick point of grease to grease the raised divot and the lock face where it contacts the blade when the lock engages, flipped it open and closed a few times, and my opening action improved a bunch.  Take a look and see what ya think.   Enjoy.   leroy

TLR:  Thanks for posting pictures of this great piece of history.  I love the Walther PP pistols, and this one is very special.  I've got a little CZ 27 myself that is nazi marked with the swastika and eagle.  Mac's post above about covers everything.  That's exactly what i did with the CZ.  It works great.   Thanks again. leroy

HEHEHE... I like it.   Thanks for posting leroy

Im with you Kahrman.  Kitchen plumbing is a nitemare; especially when there is a disposal sittin in the way. I would rather work on a stopped up commode than fool with kitchen plumbing!!   leroy

Snozz is gettin ready for a senatorial or national run for something (...prez i would opine...).  He has to appeal to all sectors of the electorate.  Hence; "haslamspeak" on gun rights and "expanded background checks".  Politics at it's worst.  He is just like the others.  He worships and covets the god of power.  Robert's post above is right.   libertarian leroy

Dear brother and sister opiners; i feel i have lost my "implacable calm" in this issue. I simply cant stand this anymore.  I have a burning need to speak to what i think this case is really about.   Brothers and sisters; this case aint about the possibly wrongful and tragic shooting of a teenager; it's about political opportunism of the worst kind in about a 50/50 carpetbagger/"delightful rustic" state that is of great importance to both political parties.    To my fellow posters who will be agast and "outraged" at this callous statement; please know that im ok with that.  This is a place of opinions and discussion; that means that some aint gonna like the opinions posted; especially this one.  Havin said that, this is my "Trayvon-George" manifesto and my mind's made up.  For once, i aint gonna argue about it.  I'm like Pilate; ive called for the "wash bowl".  I find no fault in zimmerman and think that if trayvon would have minded his own business he would be alive today to continue his thuggish ways.  The big lesson for everybody is that if everybody had have minded their business and acted sensibly, this tragedy, now marketed as a political opportunity would have never happened.    Erck did a good job with the objective facts of this case.  I'm gonna talk about the political implications of this case.   I contend that the extremely white politico carpetbaggers (...and some good ole boy opportunists...) from both up north and down south, both democrat and republican, could care less about "justice for trayvon", george zimmerman, the people of the state of florida, or anyone else in this case.  They care about walking a political titerope between about a 50/50 democrat/republican population and veer on the side that needs "reassuring" to make sure they save their stinkin hides; and thus keeping their stinkin jobs in tact.  They like bein in power, and they like it well enough to use the powers of their positions in unjust ways to keep themselves in power.  They are bold enough to take the chance of using the courts and their position(s) in unjust, even criminal, ways to perpetrate this disgraceful travesty of justice.  They are doin it now, i think, because they know that the chances of federal prosecution for any misdeeds by the judiciary or the prosecutors in this case will never be brought.  It's all about politics, nothing else. Politics in the state of florida first, and red meat for the blue states and "low information children" on a national level next.   This thing aint about justice for all; its about buying votes and support in upcomming elections.   The fall out, of course, is the murdering of the rule of law and justice.  That's what the governor has done and exactly what the prosecuting attorney and judge(s) are doing.  This territory of florida is polarized black and white with the "innocent"/"guilty" thing split right down party lines; and the political class knows it.  As i remember, the black/white population ratio in samford is about 25/75 with a 15/85 ratio in the county; but the general population of florida (...political...) is in the 50/50 range.  That's why the elections are so hot in florida.  Both parties have to go after votes on both sides of the political spectrum; and that's exactly what is goin on here.    The sad fact of this case is that one 18 year old aint gonna get any older and one little guy tryin to take care of his neighborhood have had their lives ended, or changed for the worst.  The people of florida will become more cynical than the already are due the twisting of the law and the use of courts to satisfy political purposes, the citizens of this community (...and others...) will retreat further behind their security fences and be even more afraid of their neighbors they dont know, the "tribalism" this whole dammed thing brings out in people will become stronger, and the rule of law and ethics in elected officials will become less (...if that's possible...).   In the end, nobody is gonna win no matter what happens, and there will damn sure be no justice for anybody in this sorry case.   The political class, in their stinkin lust for votes and pantering to the "low information children" has seen to it.   That's how i see this whole sad, sorry, disgraceful spectacle.  It aint about justice, its about tribal warfare and political calculations.   leroy

I promise ill be careful.  They could go off!!  HEHEHE.   Keep up the good work. leroy

  He is a great guy.  You will enjoy talkin and corresponding with him.   leroy

Dave:_______   RE:  The Civil War re-enactments.  Dont know; but he is a great guy. I thoroughly enjoyed doin business with him.   RE:  Sip.  Price.  $85 each plus $12 shipping (...for both...) via usps.   leroy

All:_______________ These aint knives; but they are very nice: They were done by a great guy by the name of Steve Liley, Coal Creek Forge, near Alton, IL. Steve doesnt have a website; but he used to post on knifeforums. His e-mail (...which he watches and answers very quickly...) is ccfms@sbcglobal.net; . These are what Steve calls his "plain jane" working hawks. As ya can see they look great. The total time from the first e-mail till delivery wuz 10 calendar days. Very quick service by any yardstick on "made to order" stuff. The hawks are made of old jackhammer drill points (...a very good steel...) and are hand forged by Steve. They weigh about 19 or 20 oz and come with about a 20 or so inch handles. The pictures do not do justice to the great workmanship in these hawks. As ya can see now, im ready to repell borders if i run out of powder and shot. Otherwise, ill just use these great tools to lop of a limb or two when i need to; or just carry 'em around to ward off any potential malingerers or 'neer do wells. Wahoo leroy

I like it!!  Thanks for posting the pictures.   It's always good to see the old "Browning Patent" shotguns.  I think it's great that three of the greatest shotgun designs ever lived happily together to give every hunter and lawman the greatest selection of shotgun designs ever offered (...i think...); and they all came from the mind of the same genius, John Moses Browning.  The Model 97, the A5 (..your shotgun...), and the model 12.   Thanks again and enjoy. leroy

Looks to me like your knifes aint big enough bruthah!!  You are gettin as bad as i am. Been carrying my ZT 200 blem myself.  It keeps draggin my dungarees down.  Have to wear suspenders and a gunbelt to keep my britches up.  HEHEHE....   Keep up the good work!!   leroy

A good pump shotgun is hard to beat.  Mossberg, Remington, or whatever ya like.  There is a browing BPS with a mag extension next to my bed and a Winchester model 12 in the gunsafe now; with an oft maligned Browning A500 recoil operated semiauto downstaris.   I like shotguns.   leroy

The 60's hippies intended to "...re-write the immutable laws..." for everything.  Barak Obama is a product of that culture; so is Hillary (...and Bill...); only Bill is smart enough to know its baloney.  Obama, Hillary and others like them could care less about the lives of Americans.  They are, in fact, treasonous, delerlict in action, bankrupt in ethics, and are the anthesis of what this country was founded on.  They are guilty of treason, but will be charged with nothing.  They are above the law, due to the fact that they are in an elite political class that proclaims that "we are a nation of laws" while violating them with impunity.  Simply put, they are not subject to the same laws as us "delightful rustic" citizens.  They have friends in high places.   They are thoroughly dangerous people (...due to their position in government and the authority they carry...) who have managed to fool other childish, foolish, equally bankrupt folks into believing they are patriots and the "best and brightest".  They worship the god of power and are the very fullfillment of the words in Isaiah that say"...woe to them who call evil good...".  Their motto is "...How can we fool 'em today....? ".    Remember, elections have consequences.  The American people are finding out just how bad some of these consequences can be.  How's all this new political landscape workin out for ya?  It looks like treason and national self destruction to me.   leroy

Great rifle!!  Thanks for posting the pictures.   Enjoy leroy

Robert:____________   RE: This ---   I'll admit to a bit of "rose colored glasses" optimism here.  To my knowledge, there has never in the history of this country a treaty agreed to by the political class that usurped the Constitution.  Think about it; can you name on instance when this has gone on? -- i simply cant, and im a junior student of history.  Additionally, i think there is, in fact, a federal law in place addressing this issue (...maybe some of our legal friends can verify this by providing the citation...), as well as court cases backing it up.  The Constitution is, in fact, the supreme law of the land.   On a more recent note; the Supreme Court has, in fact, moved to strike down laws (...and treatys, are, in effect, laws...) that were deemed unconstitutional.  I've been pleasantly surprized at some of the more recent rulings.  It seems that when the political class moves against the tennants of the Bill of Rights; they always loose; just as they should.  That's the whole idea of the three branches of government concept that is the genius of our founding documents.   Havin said all that; i understand and sympathize with your concern about the rampant "lawlessnes" of some in our government who would make us serfs and slaves; but i simply dont believe that they can do what they dare to dream of; and, in fact, try at times.  They couldnt get a magazine and assault weapons ban thru the senate for fear of political repriasals in the 2014 elections.     The greatest weapon the citizen has against the political class is the vote.  The politicos are afraid of it; and they well should be.  Thats exactly how the system is designed.  Until the political class figures out how to nullify federal elections, i dont see this as a problem.   I also dont believe, as some do, that the gubmt has the jack booted thugs that are necessary to kick down mine and your door and collect our guns.  The British tried it and got their collective butts kicked for it.  At the time, they were, in fact, the toughest guys on the block and the world's greatest superpower.   I hope and pray my analysis is right.  Your point is well taken.  Always be on watch and act accordingly.   leroy

TMF:_________   Ya may have misunderstood.  Someone callin me a name dont bother me (....remember the little limeric....); and i dont see it as grounds for the use of force.  I wont call anyone a name; because of exactly what you've said.  You may hear them unkind words again in court via some sorry lawyer or politically motivated county prosecuter couched as a provacative move on your part to make your poor maimed (...or deceased...) would be assailant look like he wuz innocent and on his way to the nearest prayer meeting or skittles store when you assaulted him verbally then cold-bloodedly shot him down ALA Trayvon.    Again, movin toward me or those under my protection may be grounds for defensive action; should i feel my life or the lives of others are in danger.  Name callin is "playground kid stuff"; it shouldnt bother an adult.  Ive seen the name callin aimed at eliciting trouble as an excuse to 'beat down" someone.  I wont fall into that trap.  I'm too old for that.   Again:  Name callin--- OK, ill just walk away.  Punching, slapping, kicking, or layin on of hands--- bad.  Bad things could happen then.   Hope this clears things up a bit. leroy