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RE:  Smith's post above (...#18...).  I think what is hurting the rep of the 9mm is the bullet design thing.  The bullet engineers have fixated on the hollow point in an attempt to fix the "over penetration" thing (...which aint necessarily a bad thing in crowded locations....) to the point that sometimes there are spectacular failures of the bullet (... shedding a jacket, not expanding, whatever...).  I think that plus the low bullet weight (...115 to 125 grain...) hurts the 9mm somewhat.     I think the nine is much closer to a good 38 special than lots of people want to believe; especially when fired in short barreled pistols (...less than 4 inches...).    We've got a baby glock (33...) in 357 sig that will generate a genuine 1250 to 1300 fps with handloads and a 125 grain hornady hollowpoint (...357 sig design...) out of a 3 inch barrel.  That's with a case plum full of AA #9.  I aint sure a 9 mm will do that out of the usual defense handgun. By way of contrast, a good medium framed 357 mag with a 4 inch barrel will probably reliably do 1450 fps... Thats pretty fast, and is (...i think...) the root of why the 357 works so well.   I aint beatin up the 9 mm ---- i think all calibers are lethal in the right hands ----- but i think what we are talkin about here is part of the problem.   A 4 inch or longer 357 revolver loaded with 125 grain hot loads is lots more powerful than a 9 or 357 sig across the board.   Faster the bullet, the more reliable the "kill factor".  It shoots thru something vital or hits a bone, shatters it, and the bone fragments do the job.  I think that is what our man is tryin to say in a backhanded way.   leroy

Ted:  Thanks for posting the link, it's a great read. Some things to think about.  The problem in lots of places RE: weapons effectivness is that we are short on old time gun men and hunters and long on "scientific and analytical opinions".  I'm kinda like the great Jeff Cooper on this stuff.  He wuz rather dismissive of those who weren't in gunfights.  He preferred the wisdom of those who were in gunfights and lived to tell the tale to those who gave opinions on them.    Havin said all that; here are some things to consider that the guy who did the posting wuz right on (...at least i think he is...); and where his observations square with the opinions of old time gunmen:   --- Shot placement is the king of stopping the trouble.   Old time hunters say the same thing.  No contest here.   --- Deep penetration is the most important aspect of wounding what you are shooting at.   Old time hunters say the same thing.  Especially when goin after big, dangerous game.     --- The bigger the caliber, the greater the bullet mass.  The more likely it is to stay together and do more damage by shattering protective bone structures.   Old time hunters say the same thing.   Havin said that, the high velocity stuff that stays together does the same thing at the expense of mass.  It's long on velocity and short on mass.  Think 357 mag and 357 sig here.   --- The "hierarchy of killin effectivenes" shows up here too.  Shotgun, rifle, handgun.  Again, agreement with old time hunters and "security professionals".   Notice the caliber and mass thing here too.   The fact of the matter is (...i believe, anyway...) that the old time gunmen have been vindicated here.  Heavy caliber revolvers of 357 magnum up are very reliable manstoppers; as is the 1911.   They have just fell out of favor in modern times.   The plastic pistol revolution gave us greater firepower (...round count...), but less desirable calibers.   It cost some lives in gunfights and that's why ya see certain segments of those who need to have all the edge they can get in a potential gunfight encounter are goin back to the old time 1911 in an ancient caliber... The 45 ACP.     Regardless of the opinions of opiners, "experts", and "caliber jhadists"; the best gun to have in any gunfight is the one you are carryin; and you better know how to shoot it more than once.   I'm thinkin about findin another government model myself.   They are just a bit heavy.   leroy  

The whole lot of them (...parents and judge...) are ignorant.  Who cares?   leroy

Any news?   leroy

Mike:  I'm gonna do a real bad thing.  You REALLY NEED a military to go with your paramilitary.  I've been carryin one for the last few weeks in place of my ZT 200.   I bought mine from knifecenter (...i think...) its a left handed one and they had 'em on sale.  Remember, you really need one.  Think of 'em as an upgraded endura (...4 inch blade....).    They are still on sale... Here's the link: http://www2.knifecenter.com/item/SP36GPLE/Spyderco-Left-Hand-Military-4-inch-S30V-Satin-Plain-Blade-G10-Handles?&utm_source=website&utm_medium=search-as-you-type&utm_campaign=spyderco%20military   enjoy!! leroy   PS -- I really like the paramilitary too!!

I think the dress code is just fine.  As others have wisely opined.  If ya dont like the dress code; dont go in and quit whining and implying that everything is racist and the deck is stacked against you because ya wear your ball cap backwards, a hoodie that is 4 sizes too large, a 4xl tee shirt and your dungarees pulled down to the crack of your azz.  I dont happen to like that style of dress myself, but that's just me.   Remember, stereotypes are "stereotypical" because they typically represent a sizable population who exhibit those particular "stereotypical" behaviors or characteristics.. ..   leroy, commentator on the thug fashion scene

I tend to like what we would call "plane jayne" government models myself.  I think its a "older generation" thing for some of us who remember when 45ACP actually meant 45 Automatic COLT pistol.  As others have opined, i like the looks and handling of a 45 that has the "old timey" look ,,,, round dust cover, spur hammer, low sights.... .    We recently re-did a light weight commander (...colt of course...).  Lowered and flaired the ejection port, low adjustable nite sights (...old eyes...), ambidextrous safety (...im a lefty...), long trigger and a bit of trigger touch up... .      I really like it; but i cant bring myself to carry it.   I keep the glocks handy.  They are excellent pistols; but are like a hammer or a handsaw.  The re-done colt commander is like a valued member of the family.  So the little sayin: ...." i show my colt to my friends and my glock to the heathen"... .   Remember, the colt government model wuz the only fitting replacement for the great single action army.  It wuz issued to the calvary for delivering firepower and mayhem on the gallop.  That alone is reason enough for every finished pistol man or woman to own one.  I say "...collect em all....".   I'm thinkin about pickin up an STI spartan myself.   Maybe i could bear to part with it.  I simply cant stand the thought of loosin a colt to a police locker for several years.   leroy

The endura is a great pocket knife.  Just the right size and good and light.    Keep up the good work! leroy

almost the weekend.  Will push this back up to the top.  Any upper east tennessee members know about this?   thanks, leroy

I wonder how long the citizens of Florida are gonna put up with this.  Florida (...and some other places...) are lookin a bit like south africa to me lately.  Thanks for posting this interestin and sad news.   leroy

Dear brother and sister opiners; i'm interested in this little story found on the wbir news website:   http://www.wbir.com/news/article/283620/2/Charges-dropped-against-former-sheriff   I did a bit of quick searching and found several articles about what this guy was charged with; but i'm interested in the politics, background and motivation for the charges and resulting trial (...there has to be some...).  It's interesting to me that this guy has had this happen to him and seems to be innocent (...at least the juries and the judge seems to think so...).    My interest, as you all can guess, is the political background and issues that drove this case.  There are those who believe that the TBI became a political lapdog and tool for the Bredesen administration due to a bunch of purges on his watch.  Please let me know what ya all think.   Thanks a bunch, leroy

Ole charlie is the classic race baiter.  He can say these outlandish things because he represents a district that overwhelmingly believes this stuff.  That, alone, should sober up some of the "open minded" are "reasonable" among us.  If ole charlie had his way; us "crackers" would be mistreated far more than we are today.  The good news is that ole charlie aint getting any younger.  It will be a great day when the grisly reaper pays him a visit.   The problem is that there are those in the black community who are younger and more militant who will take his sorry place.   They have been mentored and trained by the likes of those like the great Jeremiah Wright, Eric Holder, and Barak Obama.   The good news is that they are, in fact, a minority.   We need to defeat them politically and keep them a minority.   leroy the east tennessee "cracker"

Hersh is right...  Remember; ...they are (....Graham and McCain...)... "the best and brightest"... . They know what is best for us delightful rustics.   We should bow down, be reverent, listen to their wisdom, and praise their righteous acts... .   unrighteous leroy the disbeliever

If its possible; Graham is more overbearing and pompous than McCain.    leroy

Dont get me wrong... .  I fully agree with you.  I think there is probably gonna have to be a show down over the Fourth Amendment thing myself.   I just cant figure out how it is gonna happen and where the legal eagles will draw the line.  I aint sure i know where it's drawn now.   leroy

RE:  The license plate scanner... Didn't i read somewhere of a court decision that says that the citizen has no expectation of a "right to privacy" in a public setting...?   The roadway is definitely a "public setting"..   leroy

The inner city matriarchal society is reaping the whirlwind. .... .  Let it be... .   leroy

TMF makes a real good point in the post above.  At it's core; the relationship between employer and employee is a contractual issue and has been looked at as such for a long time by the courts.  That's why i posted the stuff a bit earlier in the thread.  You simply cannot tell a business owner how to run his business when it comes to hiring.  The gubmt can require certain types of outcomes and reward some activities like; .... the minimum wage to pay, the percentages of minorities, etc. etc..... ; but I dont think they can tell ya you have to hire mother-stabbers and father-rapers.     Havin said that; they probably can (...if they are ignorant enough....) give "extra points" on competitive bid evaluation(s) for those kinds of initiatives and programs that would "...hire a mother-raper or father-stabber..." as a community outreach...  That sounds stupid enough to be true in some locales; but i think that would be very self-destructive to the entity letting the contract --- no bidders...  Maybe this breathtakingly ignorant concept would work in kalefornia or san antonio, tx....??!  Who knows.....   leroy

I dont know that that will work... .  I think it's "red meat" for the children.... . There is no way that the "city" can check up on the hiring practices of a contractor; nor can they tell them what to do... . More than that; how to they know when background checks are utilized?   Unenforceable, i say.   RE:  The suits against BMW and Dollar General...  Goin nowhere; even in kommiefornia.. .  The gubmt cannot dictate the terms of the "employment contract" between a company and an individual; even in kommiefornia.   disbelievin leroy

None of this should surprise us... .  It may sadden us a bit; but no surprises... .  Soldiers leaving the military have the same problems as other job seekers; there simply aint any jobs that pay anything.  If ya have combat arm training; i can easily see how ya could be interested in this kind of work.  It's a redux of the indian wars after the civil war.  Ya have the choice of flipping hamburgers, workin for a middle east contractor (...if ya have the prerequisite training and experience...), or workin for drug kingpins down south.   leroy

Check this out:  http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/08/01/Editor-Fired-Over-Inappropriate-Anti-Obama-Headline   It seems that a thoroughly truthful, but decidedly anti-Obama headline got the Editor of the Chattanooga Times Free Press fired.  Here is the headline:     This is good stuff!!   Enjoy, leroy

Let 'em reap the whirlwind.... Just dont bring it here. Remember, ya get the government ya ask for.... Let 'em keep on likin it until they get enough.   leroy

Thanks Twin....  I've got a couple of RKBA holsters myself.  One is an owb kydex for a sig 238; the other is an owb for a j-frame smith. They both are well made.  I especially like the owb leather holster for the j-frame.  They did it rough side out.  They are both excellent holsters. Highly recommended.   leroy

We all need to think about this a bit.  The folks in that county voted for this.  I say let em have it, if they like it.  You simply cant help people that wont be helped.  Those who dont like this kind of stuff will soon move out to another location.  It simply excapes me as to why the populace would put up with this sort of thing; but that's just me.    The big question i have is how do you square this with the Fifth Amendment?  Ya are taking stuff (....presumably...) without fair compensation. Maybe they will take somethin from a "fortunate son" and we'll start up the federal court chain again.   leroy

RE:  The McCain "respect" thing.   I think we make mistakes passing out the term "respect" in lots of cases; and the McCain thing is one of them.   Its important that "respect" be passed out for action that gained it.  It is not "eternal" .... . It can be lost; and that is what has happened with McCain..  Said another way, respect is earned for the actions that precipitated that "respect"...   It can be lost.   It is not enduring.   The fact of the matter is that john mccain is an old hippie with a backbone; nothin else.  I dont like hippies on principle, and i damn sure dont like MCCain.  Havin said that, i held my nose and voted for him because i couldnt stand the alternative that we have now.     McCain is a genuine product of the rarified atmosphere that permeates the majority of the "Inside the Beltway Crowd" and the top echelons of the military. He symbolizes all that is wrong with politics today, both within the Republican party and politics in general.   He believes everything he says is right and that us delightful rustics should bow down and do what he says.. period.  John McCain is exactly like John Glenn.  He is a shameless politico who has used military service as a stepping stone to political debauchery.  He no more is a patriot today than i am an russian cosmonaut.    He is an old statist, out to tell us delightful rustics what to do and what to think.  After all, he is "...The best and brightest..." and we should bow down.  I say pooey.  Forget it.....I aint doin it; and i aint gonna honor anyone like McCain nor let him disarm me.    Remember, military service doesnt translate to patriotism.  It may translate to heroism, but it does not translate to patriotism.  The Hessians were german mercanaries for the British in the Revolutionary War.   non believin leroy