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What a truth!! You are exactly right. LEROY

Great observation!! I like it. My personal take on it: "We're trained and smart; who are you to defend yourself?!. We will dispense any law that needs dispensing." Thankfully, not all law enforcement officials think this way; just those who are "the smartest guys in the room", and the unelected bureaucrats that seem to pop up in those positions with great regularity. Remember, hold your mayor responsible for his APPOINTED chief of police. Kind regards, LEROY

This is a great post!! The "we" here, i would read, is the "we, the individual"; as opposed to "we, the government"; --- i think. Government intrusion into any activity that it seeks to regulate negates the possibility of the basis libertarian free will tennant of "we, the individual" once the discussion is over and the collective political decision is made law. As i would understand it; you cant invoke the "we of government" and claim to be of libertarian philosophy. It negates the "we, the individual". The "we of government" is antithetical to the basic philosophical tennant of libertarianism. Good Job!! Keep up the good work!!! Kind Regards, LEROY PS: David:____________ Sorry I've not convinced ya yet; I'll just keep working on it. RE: Office: We could run on the old "T. R. Bullmoose Platform" as third (hopefully Libertarian) party candidates!! Keep up the good work!! Kind regards, LEROY

David: It's a sad fact that everyone will not ever have everything that everyone else has. They are all created in God's image and of equal value in His eyes, but they dont stay that way very long. Government intervention in anything never solves the problem of "equality". There are many competing views of what "equality" is. I am old enough to remember when no one had insurance (im 62). They simply went to the doctor when they felt they needed to, and paid their bills. We have promoted the idea in this country that everyone should have access to everything they want, no matter whether they can pay for it or not. I have been part of the "uninsured poor". My (and my parent's) solution was to make hard decisions. One of them happened to be not to go to the doctor or the hospital unless it was imperative to do so. The fact is that insurance is not a "right"; it is a priviledge that you purchase if you are affluent enough to do so. This truth is not taught much anymore; because folks simply dont think about it. I am of a firm mind that if insurance payments were made to the individual and then to the doctor; costs would go down due to the shock factor of the costs involved. I agree that something needs to be done, but i am absolutely convinced that it is not wat government wants to do to buy votes. By they way i am, in fact, a "far right folk(s)"; I wear it like a badge of honor. My advice is that you need to be too. If you want to help others; do it on thru your own benelovence (the church, doctors, and hospitals used to do it -- don't call on government to do it.). By the way, lots of them are uninsured because they made a choice not to be insured. Twenty-five year olds dont need insurance; us old folks do. I am also equally convinced that there are some uninsured folks who desperately want to get insurance. I think that is laudable. My advice: Get to work and buy some. By the way, I didn't get any of this off a bumper sticker or from a talk show host. I have thought thru it and firmly believe it to be true. So, as Sean Conery so elequently said in the movie "The Untouchables": "Here the endeth the lesson" . More food for thought. Kind regards, LEROY

AMEN!!! I like this post!! What a truth!! Everything does not have to be a crisis. Just be ready if it turns into one. Keep up the good work!! Kind regards, LEROY

This is a great truth. The fact is that it is not about healthcare, it's about buying votes. The Demorats (and lots of Republicans) are nothing but a bunch of trashy polititians trying to pass out largessee to foolish people. Nothing that government runs ever goes on a paying basis; that's why nationalized insurance and healthcare is laughable. If this legislation passes; it will be a good idea for eveyone to stay healthy. The fact of the matter is that instead of trying to keep everybody healthy and alive; the government run medical enterprise will re-introduce the practice of "selective culling" (by the way, Hitler did this sort of thing to certain segments of the population in germany to "lower healthcare costs" and improve the quality of life for some -- he cleaned out the orphanages and the insane hospitals by buying doctors to do the job). Right now, the individual who is terminally ill can decide to opt out of taking expensive, life extending drugs and treatments (read that chemotherapy and radiation treatments, others too). Under the new system, the government will make the decisions as to who is "culled". Hospitals were instituted by the compationate of the Judeo-Christian faith who reached out in love and concern to their suffering brothers and sisters. They provided comfort and treatment to the suffering in society whom no one cared about; or who were'nt able to help themselves. They grew into the healthcare enterpirse they are today. It is my belief that the problem with the healthcare system in the US today is not greedy hospitals and doctors; it is meddling government and unrestrained lawyers. Once the government starts running the health care system; it will not be troubled by by good old Judeo-Christian compasion. Government as it is constituted now in the US is largely athiestic, socialist, and totalitarian in nature; it will have no problem killing folks. Look at it this way; would you want to be laying on your death bed and in need of a compationate advocate to speak for you; then look up and find Hillary Clinton doing the talking? The thought is horrifying at the least. There are those who are foolish enough to believe that they will either get a smaller premium or "help" as some have opined for their "health insurance policy". They will get help for a time; but they won't get any help when they go to the hospital if they are old or have a potentially terminal condition. I am convinced that there are some who believe this little speech is "over the top" and amounts to fear mongering. My reply to them is to take a look at Canada. Most canadians who can afford it come the the USA for treatments for serious conditions. because they either cant get the treatment because of age or the wait list is too long. Just for the record, i think health insurance is too expensive to. I pay about $14,000 per year for family coverage. Things need to be fixed in the healthcare business; but not the way the Demorats and some others want to fix it. So stay healthy, and make sure you are ready to meet your Maker. Government mandated and operated healthcare certainly will not help you; on the contrary; i am convinced that it will speed you on your way thru life. After we are dead and gone (early, thanks to government supplied health insurance) others may straighten this whole thing out, and return this country to the free enterprise healthcare system Food for thought, LEROY

Chief Terry symbolizes all that is wrong with too many Chiefs of Police all over Tennessee and the rest of the country. Chiefs of police are APPOINTED, NOT ELECTED. You need to work on the Mayor of Cookeville; that's who Chief Terry works for. This is another case of an un-elected "know it all criminal expert" presuming to speak for everybody. He is even smarter than the duly elected representatives of the state of Tennessee and the Founding Fathers. If you want this fixed; go after the mayor and make it hot for him. The people of Cookeville deserve better than this; as do the people of other cities in Tennessee; especially Knoxville, Nashville, and Chattanooga. The character of your elected officials matter. Be careful who you vote for. LEROY

Amen brother!! You aint always got to shoot bad guys to hurt em; especially when they are busy stealing your stuff. Rope him by the heels and drag him off with your hoveround and turn Otto on him. Keep your pistola and shotgun in their holsters until you really need em. Keep up the good work!! Kind regards, LEROY

Plus one!! Great choice. Kind regards, LEROY

For what it's worth; you need to understand that if the law is on the books IN ANY FORM; the Justrice Department (which which has plenty of jahadists and political opportunists) can bring investigations against anyone or anybody for any reason knowing full well they will be reversed on appeal knowing full well that the charges are baseless. The fact is that many times this is done knowingly to harass political or (worse yet) or philosophical opponents (like gun owners, church goers, etc). The government has a limitless budget. You most likely dont. You are obliged to litigate these charges, and that costs big money. This very tactic is used every day on real people and organizations who are clearly innocent of anything. It is simply used to drive them out of existance and bankrupt their organizations. The Demorats are busy using this tactic on their political enemies -- look at Sarah Palin. We have plenty of laws on the books; we don't need more. Always remember, all crime is by definition a "hate crime". Dont be lulled into believing that this is a "no nevermind" issue; if it was, it wouldn't be so hotly contested. The last thing this country needs is more laws; we have too many now. Remember this, the last guy you ever want to talk to is a Federal Prosecuter with with no ethics looking to make political points. All prosecuters (Federal or otherwise) are not jhadists and political hacks; some are. The character of your elected officials and those who serve in government is IMPORTANT. Think about it. LEROY

At a boy!! The best way to fix poor service and bad manners is to quit spending with them and tell everybody you know why you did!! Bad manners and poor service is always a bad idea when you are in the business of building customer loyalty. PS -- USE AN AMERICAN EXPRESS CARD IF YOU ARE DOING BUSINESS WITH SOMEONE YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW. THEY ARE MERCILESS ABOUT STOPPING PAYMENT AND MAKING THINGS RIGHT. ALL IT TAKES IS A PHONE CALL. Sorry they are so sorry. LEROY

Great post!! Move Cliff to the head of the class; he has nailed it. Keep up the good work!! The character of your elected officials MATTERS!! Keep up the great work!! Kind regards, LEROY

Im feelin a little sad myself!!

The MEC 650 is gage specific. I believe that you can reference all the data of the MEC website. I used to load lots of 12 gage back in the mid 70's with a buddy of mine. We used 207 primers with Winchester AA trap and skeet hulls. We loaded thousands of them with that old press. I've never seen any 97 primers. Maybe some of the other guys can help you with that. I do remember that the MEC loader doesn't like changing components. That means to use one specific brand hull and wad. When you start changing the components, you start having to readjust all the stuff on the loader (wad pressure, ect); and that can be a pain. We always used Winchester hulls and winchester wads. We loaded thousands of them; they all shot well in automatic shotguns like the old Winchester model 50 and the Franchi recoil operated shotguns. We quit reloading for shotguns when shot went to $5.00 per 25 lb wholesale; thats been a long time ago!! Have fun. Kind regards, LEROY ps -- them little shiny things are powder and shot bushings. Make sure you get the right one for the powder charge you want to use (they are marked) and the right shot bushing. That's another reason not to change the loader around after you get it up and going.

Cant let this one pass since it is a great economic, protectionist, union-management discussion. Make no mistake; the main reason that large companies are moving overseas is due to idiotic regulation here in the US, government intrusion into the day to day business of capital markets, fear of outright government takeovers of companies, and the fear of union resurgence. The fact of the matter is that those who believe in all these regulations and governmental interference are busily destroying the ability of companies to operate in the USA; and along with it, are killing the proverbial goose that laid the golden egg in america. The whole idea of capitalism, which by the way is the foundation of the idea of private property, is the idea that folks provide a product or service at a price that allows them to sell a product or service at a profit; it's that simple. For the last 80 or so years (since about 1930) the people of the good ole USA have been fed a steady diet of socialist baloney that says that all capitalists (read that as business owners, stock holders in corporations, and corporate executives) are bad, all profits are obscene, the working man is downtrodden by the big corporations, that no one should have more than anyone else, and that everybody is entitled to everything that everyone else has; regardless of whether they work for it or not. This idiotic notion has been promoted by the socialist Demorats, academia, the unions, and other bolchelvic lay abouts; along with the childish who have managed to elect a socialist, redistributionist president and congress. America is well on it's way to being being economically destroyed and reduced to third world status by these socialist idiots who think they are "the smartest guys in the room" and know how to do everything. Until the notion that socialism and redistrubutionism should replace capitalism in this country is defeated, there is little hope to revitalize the manufacturing and building sector of our nation. That is exactly why the "big corporations" are leaving the USA to operate overseas where they will be left alone and allowed to. The truth is that while the rest of the world, including the former Soviet Union and Red China is turning to capitalist philosophy; the foolish in this country are trying to continue and expand the socialist policies that so infatuated Woodrow Wilson and FDR. People had best wake up and understand that the real enemy this country faces is not from without; but from within. I'm old enough to remember Nikita Kruschev's famous "We will bury you speech". He predicted the destruction of the capitalist system in the USA. If hell has a window into the here and now, ole Nikita has to be pressing his hog nose against it; looking up at Oboma, the congress, and the foolish people of american and laughting his head off. Folks, if you don't like what's going on now, you better get out and get to work supporting some candidates at the local, state, and national level who acually believe in capitalism, or you may well be subjected to the next iteration of socialism; its called totaliniarism. Check the history book (that the revisionists havent messed with yet); you will soon find out that no socialist state has ever not been dominated by totalitarianist dictators. Thats how i see the whole thing; been watching for about 50 years now. Food for thought, LEROY

Amen Brother!! Keep up the good work! Kind regards, LEROY

Powell is a self-serving opportunist of the political class. He is on his side; no one else's. He is interested in being thought of as an "elder statesman" and covets the adulation of the inside the beltway political class. No character, no belief system, no set of principles. He worships the god of self. He is a dangerous man (like about 90% of the rest of the political class). That's the way i see it. Kind regards, LEROY

You are witnessing the birth of an interesting political beast; the first African-American "Reagan Republican" candidate for president in 2012. My problem with Colin Powell is that today's truth is tomorrow's lie. I can't wait to see what comes next!! Kind regards, LEROY For what its worth: ... remember the famous quote from Granny Hawkins at the general store near the river in the great Eastwood movie "The Outlaw Josey Wales": "I think all that big talk aint worth spit!" -- Granny Hawkins, General Store Proprietor and Ferry Owner

I do to; they taste just like possum!!! Kind regards, LEROY

This is a great truth!! Anybody that the Demorats and the state run media goes after has great qualities. It's high time that folks wake up to that fact. I like Sarah Palin; she knows who she is and has a backbone. That is a rare commodity in this pitiful society; especially in the ranks of public office holders. Keep up the good work!! Kind regards, LEROY

This is a great summary analysis!! Great job!! Here are some things to think about: Several things made Bush look bad: He never answered his critics in congress or the press. He did not finish Iraq in a timely manner. He was hijacked by the same bunch that didn't finish Gulf War I. He muzzled the military. He said that Iraq would not turn into Viet Nam. He allowed his political enemies in the press and in the Demorat party do just that by their treasonous actions. This alienated the American People (and it should havve). This is his greatest shame. The Iraq war should have been over in a matter of months, not years. He acted as a "big government" Republican with not curbing government spending and government power. He did not go after the career bureaucrats in the State Department, the Defense Department, and the CIA who openly defied him and ultimately destroyed his credibility with the electorate. In summary, George Bush almost single handedly assured that the republicans would be defeated by being way too reasonable. He made some unbelievable political blunders. The second thing was a weak Republican presidential candidate. I like John McCain on a personal basis; but he simply is not a small government republican; he is a RINO 66's hippie with a backbone. Never in the history of american politics, except for the Civil War has a congress and a political party acted so treasonably. It is stunning to me that this bunch of trash could be elected. George Bush made a great mistake in not calling them out by name and calling them what they are -- nothing but a bunch of partizan socialist hacks who would do anything to regain power; including hurting the military in wartime and treason. The Republicans made a big mistake by not doing the same thing. I like Ron Paul. I think he would be a great president. He has character, he knows what he believes, and is a great American. I would love to see Ron Paul take over the Republican Party. The problem is with third parties. They have won once or twice in all of american history.

I believe the first words of justme's quote are exactly right (as well as the analysis that follows -- great insight!!!) ; but i believe first words are the most important!! This country is exactly at the crossroads; it will either continue to go left and down to third world status; or the responsible adults in this country will wake up and do something to stem the idiocy that is running rampant in Washington. The Democrats, the socialists, the anti-captitalists, the "something for nothing crowd", the enviornmental crowd, the other lesser known socialist 60's hippies, along with the foolish have banded together to beat a weak RINO republican presidential candidate and sorry republican incumbents to give us what we have now. This group of miscreants is busy committing economic suicide, making war on capitalism, and paying off their sorry constituency. In doing all this, Oboma and the Dems have polarized the country exactly as was the case with states rights just before the civil war. The fact is that these people need to be beat at the ballot box; or they will destroy this country. Folks need to wake up and become politically active. Some have said in this forum that both the Democrats and the Republicans have lost their bearings and are all just a bunch of "dammed polititians". I agree with this; that's why I keep harping about the character of those we send to Washington. Folks have been voting with their pocketbooks way too long in this country. They need to wake up and see (as others have observed) that our liberties are being eroded and our country is being destroyed economically with government trying to buy everything and everybody. If the real citizens of this country do not wake up, get busy, and elect some real leadership for this country, people like Oboma and the sorry bunch helping him will destroy this country, take your liberties, and make you serfs. That's what third world socialists usually do. So we all need to get busy seeing that this doesnt happen. That means to support good people running for office with both talk and cash. Otherwise, it may have to be done with the cartridge box at great cost to everyone. I want all here to fully understand that I am, indeed, a rabid, paritzan Republican. I am a Republican because i believe nothing that the current Demorat party believes. Do I believe in third parties? -- NO -- it takes too long to get them going; so the Republicans (sorry as some of them are) are the only viable opposition to the idiocy and treason that is going on now. It is my belief that if you identify yourself as a Demorat or " Undecided" you you simply have not taken the time to look deeply at what is going on. Do the Republicans do bad things and make bad choices? Yes!! -- they do and have -- they largely allowed Oboma and the Dems to win because of character issues, spending issues, and being "RINO Democrat Lite." If you want the country cleaned up; clean up the Republican party; lets get busy and start cleaning it up now -- that means to get active. If the Republicans and the other responsible adults in this country do not wake up; go to work; and raise up qualified, honest, conservative, less government, liberty restoring candidates and get them elected; this country will be destroyed and your children and grandchildren will be serfs; and it wont take another 30 years to do this at the rate the Dems are going now. We all need to get to work, the hides we save will be our own. Thats how i see things this morning. Kind regards, LEROY

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Guys:______________ Great discussion on the economic issues. You are both doing very well. Just a note about a couple of things. Here they are: It is my belief that Israel "has their finger on the button" so to speak because the Iranian government has been openly advocating the anniahlation of the state of israel for about 30 years now -- Hitler didn't talk about finishing the jews but for about 10 years. Amajainijad (bad spelling) is simply continuing the rhetoric that Kohemeni started in the early eighties. You also need to remember that the great Ayatolya Kohemeni called the USA the "Great Satan" and Israel the "Little Satan"-- the anti Israel stuff with Iran aint new. Iran is also working on enriching nuclear fuel -- my guess is that it is for fissile material for a bomb. Given the rhetoric and the work; it is my guess (And i believe the guess of the Israeli's) is that it is reasonable to assume that Iran might mean what they say. If i was a responsible Israeli leader, I too, would "have my finger on the button" or at least, prepare for the possibility. It is also important to understand that this policy has the backing of the Israeli populace. The distance from Terhan to Tel Aviv is probably no more than 1000 miles. Missiles travel mighty fast. Think of it as Ohio threatening Tennessee. I would give Israel the benefit of the doubt on this one -- i believe their actions, preparations, etc in regard to Iran are well advised and prudent. We can quibble about this one a little bit, but it's a quibble without any distinction. The fact of the matter is that Iran has, since the days of Kohemeni (early eighties) been fighting a proxy war with Israel and the United States. It started in Lebanon; it's still going on today. The practical result of a "proxy war" is that Iran can deny that they are doing anything, take foreign volunteers to fight the war, and have political and diplomatic cover for their actions. On the other side; Israel and the USA take casulties and diplomatic flack for "fighting an unjust war" against poor underarmed "freedom fighters". The result to Israel and the US is the same--- dead civilians, dead soldiers, and spent treasure. The United States has largely ignored this war (First Reagan, later Clinton); the Israel'is have not. They have been fighting Hezbolla wherever they have found them. Remember, the last Israeli clash with Hezbolla in Lebanon was brought on by Hebolla rockets menacing Israeli civilians. The fact is that while the US has largely ignored Hezbolla (or waged a clandestine war against them where we could), the Israel's have not chosen to ignore them; and for good reason. It is my belief that Israel is justified in any campaign against all those who would try to kill civilians and destroy the state of Israel. The fact is that Iran has been waging war against Israel for about 30 years; using proxy fighters to do their dirty work. Given that truth, I believe that Israel is showing great restraint. You also need to consider that Israel has never started any of the wars they have engaged in since 1948. They have just finished them. The truth is that the only real ally that the United States has in the middle east is the State of Israel. Kind regards, LEROY