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Lack of support kills HB 2021, parking lot bill
leroy replied to Sky King's topic in 2A Legislation and Politics
Agreed. You can change your mind; breaking the contract. You will be fired for it. RE: "Compelling a search". They dont need to. They just fire you. If they think you stole something, they will call law enforcement (...or, in some cases, call their own...) and "compel the search". The end result then has another result (...if you are guilty...). You get fired and you get charged with theft of property from the company. leroy -
Interesting read. Thanks for posting it. leroy
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Lack of support kills HB 2021, parking lot bill
leroy replied to Sky King's topic in 2A Legislation and Politics
Robert:________________ RE: This: This is not necessarily correct. I worked (...as well as many others...) for many years for a company (...many big companies do this...) that retained the right to search your private property (....Car, tool box, lunch bucket, car, etc. ...) as a condition of employment. This company (....as well as many others...) routinely do this. The fact is that employment is a contract; and you need to understand that a contract works two ways. You may, in fact, give up a bunch or rights that you have sitting on your property to go to work. It has always been that way. You give some of those "rights" when you agree to go to work for someone who sees fit to implement them. If you "decline" to give permission to an authorized agent of the company to do one of the things that are a "condition of employement", you can (...and will...) be fired for cause without recourse. I've seen it happen because of contraband (...read that stolen hand tools, drugs and alcohol; even prescription drugs without a prescription --- that could be your wife's or husband's allergy prescription allergy medicine!!...), items "stolen" from the company (...right down to "worthless" items like flagging...), and what is being discussed here (...firearms...). The company can mandate a group of "prohibited items". That's what it means. If you get caught with them you are out. A company may also implement other "conditions of employment". They can be random drug testing, satisfactory passage of physical endurance testing, etc. All as "conditions of employment". Dont believe for a minute that your Fourth Amendment rights are intact inside another entity's (...read that company, corporation, governmental agency, etc.--anybody that "employs" ...) property if you are employed by them and they have items that are a "condition of employment" that you, as an employee, have agreed to up front as a "condition of employment". You give those "rights" up if you choose to go to work for that company, corporation, etc. who lists them as a "condition of employment". They will always tell you up front what those "conditions" are, and will ask you to sign a document that indicates that you "understand and agree to" those conditions. The bottom line is, again, that working for a wage is a contract. The employer can stipulate what those conditons are. If you choose to work for that company, you choose to abide by his rules. This has nothing to do about "constitutional rights" (...you retain them as a private citizen on your own time...), and everything to do about "contracts". The employer offers employment under certain stated conditions. You as an employee agree to work under those conditions. Again: "Contract" equals employer's offer (...under certain conditions....) and the individual employee's agreement to work under those stated conditons. I aint tryin to pick an argument with anyone concerning this "rights" issue. I'm simply sayin that you, in fact, do not retain many of your "Constitutional Rights" in the workplace. That argument has been settled in the courts for a long time. The rule that applies here is the "contractural agreement" rule. Hope this gives a better perspective about what is going on here. leroy -
Sometimes ya just can't win. Lots of wind up here north of Knoxville too. Power was off for a couple of hours this morning. Plenty of rain. Have fun. leroy
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Help fight brady campaign speaker in chattanooga
leroy replied to Jonnin's topic in 2A Legislation and Politics
All:________________ I wouldn't worry much about some jackass from the Brady Foundation saying anything. There are plenty of places in Chattanooga (....knoxville, nashville, and memphis....) where not having a gun is very dangerous. Given the problems with violent crime in these places (...Policeman killed in Chattanooga, Christian-Newsome in Knoxville, home invasion, abduction in Parsons, TN. Go down the list...). It will be a "hard sell" to convince anyone that guns are the principal problem with crime. It simply aint so, and lots more folks who are not gun enthusiasts are realizing that fact. Take a look at the young couples with children and the old folks attending the local gunshows. I well remember when the "gunshow crowd" was a pretty close knit faternity; it is a much larger segment today (...Thank God....). I say "let 'em talk". They cant win this one on the truth; or thru an appeal to "common sense" or decency. Casual observation is busy confirming to the most weak minded of us that the world is a dangerous place, that criminals dont obey the law, and the the law cannot protect anyone. For what it's worth. leroy -
As my sainted mother used to be fond of sayin:"...You dont have to look far to find a fool!!....". I always make it a habit to watch closely who is either "at" or "comes into the plinking range". If i dont like what i see (...and, sometimes i dont...). I simply leave for the day. I have that luxury because im an old retired guy. If i need to finish something important, i have no problem calling folks down for silly gun-related behavior (...as kindly as possible; of course; they may be foolish, but they are armed...). One of the big problems with any range (...membership based, public, or "for hire"...) is that people are people and since they are; a certain fraction of them are foolish, unthinking, and uncaring. All that being said; ive met some delightful and knowledgeable folks at the ranges. Thankfully, the clowns are in the minority. leroy
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Lack of support kills HB 2021, parking lot bill
leroy replied to Sky King's topic in 2A Legislation and Politics
Good point. The construction industry uses this provision all the time. When the job is complete, you either go to the next one (...if there is one in your territory...) or go home. There should be no expectation (..by and employee...) of a "right to continued employment" if there is nothing to do. Keep up the good work. leroy -
Ken:_________________ Had the same thought when i started with the sig. : I bought some dies, a case gage, and some Starch reprocessed 357 sig brass. To my delight and surprise; no difference in loading a "bottleneck" pistol cartridge after the dies were set up. Evidently, the sig headspaces on the case mouth and you dont get the "case stretch" you usually get with the rifle type cartridges. The only thing to watch for is to use the case gage to set up the sizing die to bump the case shoulder back "just enough" to form the case correctly. Took all of about 2 minutes. The bottom line is that there is no problem reloading the sig. As to the 357 sig vs the 357 mag discussion. I agree, the 357 mag whoops the sig hands down. What the sig brings to the party is a medium size semiauto pistol and light bullet 357 mag type performance. It can't compete with the heavier bullets. RE: The 10mm. I like 'em too. Real magnum performance in a semiauto handgun. That's a great thing. Hope this helps. leroy
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Lack of support kills HB 2021, parking lot bill
leroy replied to Sky King's topic in 2A Legislation and Politics
All:_______________ Sky King is right on this: This is the correct definition of a "right to work state"; simply said, union membership is optional. leroy -
This will make all us animal lovers feel better!! Great story from Japan
leroy replied to leroy's topic in General Chat
What a story!! Another proof that the dog is the nobelest of beasts. I love 'em all!! Keep up the good work. leroy -
Al:______________ Check the Oak Ridge Sportsmen's Association website for the next rifle clinic. Link here: Oak Ridge High Power Rifle ORSA They are good guys. Highly recommended. leroy
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Jonnin:_____________ Here are the bullets i use. Hornady: Hornady V-Max Bullets 22 Caliber (224 Diameter) 55 Grain with Cannelure Box of 100 - MidwayUSA or Nosler: Nosler Ballistic Tip Varmint Bullets 22 Caliber (224 Diameter) 55 Grain Spitzer Boat Tail - MidwayUSA I always buy whatever is on sale; but i like both hornady and nosler. The bullets have the "plastic" or "polycarbonate" tip. I found the same bullet with an exposed lead tip. Here: Hornady Bullets 22 Caliber (224 Diameter) 60 Grain Spire Point Box of 100 - MidwayUSA Lotsa old timers will tell you they dont like exposed lead in ar type rifles exactly for the reason you may be running into. They will stub into the feed ramp and hang up. I've polished the feed ramps in both the HBAR carbine and a 450 bushy that we have. I think that is a great "reliability enhancer" with any of the AR type firearms. RE: Mikes comment RE: P Mags. I agree. I think that they are the best mag out there for hardball. Hope this helps. leroy
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Mike:_______________ Just noticed this post. I had problems using PMAGS (...20 round...) loaded with V-Max rounds in my HBAR ar. I switched to the C Products 20 rounder for V-Max rounds and it solved the problem. I think the "ridge" down the middle of the P Mag tends to hang the plastic tipped rounds up. I think they kick forward to the front of the mag as the AR fires and they hang up either on the "ridge" that guides the follower, or on the front of the mag (...which is plastic...). Bottom line; i dont load plastic tipped rounds in P Mags anymore. Hope this helps leroy
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Free Political Speech on trial again in the Netherlands.
leroy replied to leroy's topic in 2A Legislation and Politics
I understand, didn't even think of it that way. RE: I agree with the big change in europe. There are those who think that there is a great nationalist revival (...which i think is a good thing...) goin on in the Netherlands, France, and Germany. Angela Merkel said several months ago that the "multicultural experiment" had failed in europe, especially Germany. On a personal basis, i believe that the militant muslum community had better tread lightly in Germany, the Netherlands, and France. The nationalist movement may sweep them away if they do not assimilate into the national culture. If they have any ideas about "national jhiad"; i believe they better keep it to themselves and be real careful. The Frenchmen, Germans, and the Dutch are pretty well fed up with the muslum culture being pushed down the average citizen's throat and disrupting the country. I believe that the "real citizens" will overrun the "multiculturalists" in the next elections. I also believe this thing with Geert (...the trial...) will serve to finish the entrenched multiculturalist euroweenies in the Netherlands, and enhance Wilder's stature in the Dutch Legislature. I believe there will be big trouble if Dutch "free political speech" spoken by a leading polititian is deemed to be "hate speech". That is exactly the pitch that these jackasses are making. I believe the average Dutch citizen wont go for that; and they souldn't. leroy -
Free Political Speech on trial again in the Netherlands.
leroy replied to leroy's topic in 2A Legislation and Politics
6.8 and Jay:________________ Wilders does look like a nut (...and acts like one from time to time...). I think that is part of his charm. The real trick with Wilders is to listen to what he has to say. Evidently his "real job" is as a movie producer in the Netherlands, and that probably detracts from his "gravitas". Take the time to listen to some youtube clips of his speeches; he is very intellegent and his observations on world events and the dangers inherrent in them are "spot on". Take the time to read the text of his speech to the Hudson Institute here in the good ole USA. Link here:Geert Wilders speech to America, and video interview with Atlas « Creeping Sharia . On the down side, here is his problem: Its hard to look erudite when you rest your pen near your nostril!! But rest assured, there is a pretty smart guy hiding under that goofy look and mop of blond hair. Remember this: ...Jesus said: "....Wisdom is proven right by her children...". Wilders is right about a lot of things. That's why his opposition is trying to shut him up. Take the time to check this one out too: YouTube - Geert Wilders brilliant speech leroy -
strickj:_______________ Great picture!!! ^^^^^^ leroy
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All:___________________ Right here is some real "corruption at the state level" in Illinois, no less. It seems that about 35% of state employees have workman's comp claims. Take the time to read this: 35 percent of Illinois State Employees have comp claims - John Ransom This is exactly why Caterpilllar is threatening to leave Peoria. leroy
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Free Political Speech on trial again in the Netherlands.
leroy replied to leroy's topic in 2A Legislation and Politics
I think you are exactly right. I also believe he will come out on top of this no matter what the court decides. I, like you, believe that what Wilders is saying is resonating in places thorought Europe. Look at Marie Le Pen's influence in France (...link to story here: BBC News - Marine Le Pen poll rating shock for French politics ...) and the birth of a "Far Right" party in Germany. It's a shame that a bunch of euroweenies are raising up heroes and people of truth while we here in the good ole USA are still afraid to acknowledge the truth of what is going on with radical islam and the evils of multiculturism. Let's hope a some of their courage spreads over to the New World. 1:08 PM update right here in "river city": A US city council stifling free political speech (...in michigan) Check this post out here: http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2011/04/tea-party-banne.html . Heres hopin. leroy -
All:_________________ Think about it this way. Trump is doing both the Republican (...and Libertarian...) parties a great service. He is doing the usual "over the top" stuff that "real polititians" (...weenies that most of them are...) are afraid to do. He is calling Nobama out on everything (...exactly what i think the repubs sould do, by the way...) and givin him hell on every issue. There is no doubt in my mind that Nobama is hiding something with the birth certificate issue; and i dont think it is "foreign born". I think he is listed as "caucasion". If that gets out, he will take a hit in the black community (...which he is busy courting now for 2012...). I like Trump. He is stirring up the political pot and making things easier for Republican and Libertarian candidates. I think it is hilarious that Trump is doing in his spare time what the "real polititians" should be doing full time --- "...Goin right after Nobama head on on everything...". Trump doesnt worry about who he might offend. The current crop of "real polititians" in the Republican party should take a page from Trump's playbook and get to work on the "Great Hope and Change Demigogue". They need to start doin what Trump is doin; instead of telling him to shut up. I say cheer him on!!! Sick 'em Donald!!! leroy
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All:_______________ We've had a lot of discussion here about the First Amendment and what constitutes "free political speech" and who is attempting to infringe on it from time to time. Take the time to read this article i lifted from Drudge this morning: link here: News from The Associated Press I like Geert Wilders because he is telling the truth. He is leader of the third largest party in the Dutch Parlament (...or whatever they call it...). Some of the Dutch "euroweenies" evidently cant stand to hear all he has to say; so they are trying again to shut him up; even after the Dutch procecuters advised them against going forward with this trial. There are folks in this country who would like to do exactly what the Dutch "euroweenies" are attempting to do here. Remember this one thing, when the populace is unarmed, the "ruling class" can, indeed, stife "free political speech". That means that in our system; the "Second Amendment" secures the first. Food for thought leroy
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Deleted. Double post. Aint too swift this mornin!! leroy
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JAB:_________________ RE: this: I would never shoot a herron; they are too great. I wouldn't worry about "scaring" them though. We used to do some cowboy action shooting, until the son got too busy to fool with it. We used an old sidehammer double shotgun with blackpowder loads. Ya may want to consider loading up some Winchester AA's or Magtec brass shells with FFg black powder, and make some blanks. We used a load of about 95 grains of FFg. It makes a helluva noise and a great plume of white smoke. It might make the herrons nervous until they figure out there aint any shot in the rounds you are firing. The blackpowder blanks are easy to make. We just measured the powder with a blackpowder rifle powder measure and used some hard cardboard overwads (..ya can get ready-made wads from places like cabelas or reloading places, when they are set, just glue them in with elmers white school glue and let em dry...). I used a 5/8 dia dowel and a small hammer to seat the wads and tighten down the powder (...be REAL CAREFUL HERE!!!..), not too hard and make sure that the primer is protected from being hit against whatever you use for an "anvil". We used a hardwood block with a hole where the primer sits. I also think using a large blackpowder revolver (...like a dragoon...) would make plenty of noise too. I like both these ideas because it is guaranteed to make the neighbors nervous. They will most likely think that you are crazy. In lots of places thats a good thing too. That will cause them to speak softly to you and measure their words carefully in case of any "disputes" or "differences of opinion". Remember, it is always better to negotiate from a position of perceived strength and unreasonability than to be "reasonable". Somethin to think about leroy leroy
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1gewehr hit a home run here. He is exactly right. The "real corrupt" states (...read rustbelt big city locations...) do not catch their criminals. Keep up the good work. leroy