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Boom:__________ I understand completely. I simply do not agree. He (...Kevorkian...) helped kill people (...at their direction, of course; and for a fee im sure...). He did, in fact, kill people because they were sick. All in direct conflict with the oath he took when he became a doctor. I am, in fact, against assisted suicide. The "death with dignity" pronoucement is thrown around far too losely. Everyone seems to believe in it; but i'm havin a bit of a problem understandin how it is somehow a commodity or service that should be for sale in the medical profession. I understand that in a capitalist society; everything is for sale. I will grant that you are perfectly free to take your own life, and you can buy the stuff to do it off the shelf. By the way, the State of Michigan didn't see the "death with dignity" arguement either. Check this link out here: Kevorkian Sentenced to 10 to 25 Years in Prison - NYTimes.com . Caster: RE: This. Glad to hear that it wasn't a "venom filled hateful comment". I dont like them.Thanks for the clarification. leroy

All:____________ I am surprised by the hornet's nest this has sitirred up; but that's ok. I'll give a bit of my thinking on this touchy subject. RE: The alleged heinousness of The Kevorkian/Mengele association. Is it a stretch? Consider these facts: Both were men of medicine. Both took an oath to "do no harm"; a widely understood and universally accepted ethical position for physicians. One "studied the dying process" on willing folks. One studied the "dying process" on unwilling folks. In the big leagues batting 333 will keep you on the team roster, and make you a star. In the kevorkian/mengele medical school and dying research center; the batting average is 667. No one has ever hit 667. RE: Watching a loved one die with a debilitating disease and seeing the suffering. My own life experiences: I'm old enough to have seen several loved ones die with terrible sicknesses; seeing them go little by little each day. My maternal grandmother died of liver cancer when i was a small boy. My mother and aunt took care of her until she died (...this was in the mid 50's...). She lingered a long time and suffered much. No one there (...including my grandmother...) entertained the idea of taking her life to lessen her suffering. They (...and the doctors...) did all they could to make her comfortable. It was a relief when she passed; but not once did anyone speak out the idea of hestening her death. I saw a similar situation when a dear aunt died of enphysemia. She lingered long and suffered much. Again, no thought of hastening her end. She was loved and made as comfortable as possible. RE: The ethical issue of physician assisted suicide. Those that believe in this practice or even believe it is a genuine, reasonable, humanitarian service provided to a willing participant (...which i somewhat think it is, in some cases...) need to ask themselves this one question, and then think deeply about it a bit. The question is this: "Is it ethical for a physician who has taken an oath to "do no harm" to assist a suicide? My take is that if it is ok; then oaths and affirmations taken by doctors, lawyers, judges, polititians, marriage vows, ect mean nothing if they can be laid down and taken up depending on circumstances. That my brother (...and sister...) opiners is situational ethics--a concept that is conflict with its very definition. There is simply no such thing. In the vernacular of the hillside: Todays truth can be tomorrows lie, depending on the whim of those who make the decision. To change this, all those in power need to do is to simply change their mind without fear of penalty. Viola; todays truth is tommorrows lie! That simply means that there is no ultimate (...in human terms...) truth. If that is so, everyone is free to do whatever he, she, or it wants to do for their own personal gratification and purpose no matter the damage done to others if they are weak or debilitated in some manner. This effectively voids any and all laws and obligations, and sanctions murder of the weaker by the stronger. The definition of "ethics" is that set of immutable values that remain true and unchanging no matter what the culture decides; as opposed to "morals" which are consensus whims made up by whatever the particular cultural whim is at that particular time in pop culture. Morals and ethics aint the same thing. If you believe as Friedirch Nietzsche, "...That if God be dead, all things are permissible...". This is an ok thing to do; why not; you make the rules. If you believe in a Creator and in in a set of ultimate rights and wrongs; the idea of a physician breaking his oath to "do no harm" and taking money to end a life has an odious stench to it. That's exactly where i am on this one and i will make no apology for it. You that think that this is ok are a short step from intellectually accepting the proposed Obama Death Panels. Remember this, Stalin and Hitler had "Death Panels" too. They were made up of bureaucrats, monsters, and willing physicians too. I'm old enough to have more time behind me than before me. That means that when i come to the end of my journey down here; i want to have some confidence that the physician attending me does not subscribe to the Kevorkian/Mengele school of medical ethics. My wish is to be made as comfortable as can be done; not murdered for convenience. Hope this sheds some light on my incenderary comments. They are, indeed, heart felt opinions. Your mileage and opinions may vary. I'll close with this: Be careful what you choose to believe; these issues have a way of comming back around. As a dear friend (...now gone on to his reward...) used to say. "....That which is considered absurd, unthinkable, and outlandish today will be the norm in a generation...." Remember to read my little voltaire quote on my signature line. It speaks volumes. By the way caster. RE: this. I aint "presumin to tell you anything you cannot do". Remember this; the body of laws you live under does just what you dont like and are calling me out for doing every day, and they make it stick. Havin said all that; dont expect me to give my approval to whatever you want to do. I aint obligated to give it. Nor are you to accept it. I would take a baby aspirin and calm down if i wuz you.leroy

All:______________ Here is some good news for the human race. Dr. Jack Kevorkian has finally "experienced and studied the dying process first hand". Link here: Assisted suicide advocate Jack Kevorkian dies | Detroit Free Press | freep.com Some may not see it this way; but i believe it is a great day for mankind. The Death Angel has finally called on this alleged researcher into the dying process. He has finally joined that other noted researcher Joseph Mengele. I say good riddance! leroy

Sidewinder:_______________ If i couldnt find me a handloader i liked; i would be tempted to get some plastic wads and my 296 powder, load the powder, set the wad with a dowel, add the shot, fold the hull back (...and round it up as you do...), then hotglue the crimp fold. Lots of the CAS guys used plastic shells and reloaded them with plastic cushion wads. The problem with the black powder was that it would turn the wads into a molten plastic mess that sometimes coated the barrels. Smokeless powder wont do that. Some of them also just cut the crimp fold off and glued in an overshot wad with elmers glue or something else. RE: I like these guys; but they are a tad pricey. Good luck. leroy

This is good stuff!! Like greg says; ya simply cant make it up; its too good!! Caster has a great point too; he is definitely presidential timber ala JFK and WJ Clinton. It just dont get better than this! leroy

I think you are exactly right!!! Keep up the good work! leroy

I think the "...investing in what...." question is a fair one. I say invest in the future by voting these sons of satan out. The best investment ya can make is to vote out the SOBs that have caused this problem. There are enough of them to go around and they belong to both parties. More than that, most of us know who they are. The reason why this country is so far in the tank economically is that weve regulated business to the point where the government is anti-business, we have stopped energy exploration, and we are threatening to have the gummt take over legitimate business (...the pharmacutical and health care industry...). The sooner ya decide to get rid of these socialist sons of satan, gangster bureaucrats, socialist pukes, and their children; the sooner the economy will heal itself. Folks (...individuals and companies...) that have money, have simply put it in their pockets and are refusing to spend any of it on anything because they are afraid of this stupid government (...and they should be...). Remember, there is an election in 2012. Vote early and often (...the damned collectiveists will!....)! leroy

All:_______________ Here is "da man" who invented social security; that greatest of germans, Otto Von Bismark: The german concept of "old age workers pension" was a bone thrown to the socialists among the germans (...mostly manufacturing folks who lived in the east of germany and believed the union lies and communist baloney comming from the Marxists...) that this great old man did to keep the peace in germany; and keep the serfs working in the great german manufacturing plants. A shrewd political move in a nation that reveres industry and believes in authoritarian government. By the way, the german age for "old age workers pension" was 70 years old. Do ya reckon old otto intended to out pay many claims? That noted socialist and paternalist elitist, FDR simply borrowed from this great old man to create social security. Notice the name..." social security"... . as in "Socialist"; simply a euphanism for communism and socialism. All in accordance with that great communist manifesto pronouncement: ...."From each in accordance with his abilities. To each in accordance with his needs...". What sickening tripe!.... Never believe that this program wasnt created to "buy folks with"; and it has. On a personal note, i find it quite interesting that all the paternalist socialist elites always do these things with money confiscated from you; not them. As the great garfield says; "....You are responsible for you...". Social security is simply a tax taken by the point of the bayonet from every working man and given to both those who legitimately paid into it and the lay abouts as well. The problem with social security (...outside of the obvious...) is that it is passed out to both those who paid into it and those who didnt in the name of enforced compassion for our disadvantaged brothers. Nothing could be farther from the truth. It is state enforced robbery from the haves to give to the have nots (...and wouldnts (..."wouldnt work" and "wouldnt save", that is...). Simple economic redistribution. An idea antithetical to a liberty loving people. If i wuz a young guy(...or gal...); i wouldnt count of social security for my "golden years" retirement. Ya better start investin now. Hows that for stirring up a hornet's nest? libertarian leroy and admirer of old otto

TN:_______________ In the "old days" (...before us rustic rednecks learned about headspace gages...), we did the thing that Dolomite recomends. We simply neck sized the brass that we used; never bumping the shoulder back. The "ultimate" fit for any rifle cartrige is the neck size option. The way we did it is exactly as he explained. We took a round and resized it only enough for the case head to sit exactly flush with the specific rifle chamber doin a careful "bump back" of the case neck to shoulder. This is, indeed, the ultimate fitting of brass to a specific rifle chamber method. There is none better. This is the exact method that the benchrest shooters used to use. Problems come in when ya have two different rifles chambered for the same caliber. In my case, we had two 300 win mags. ....one chamber was deeper than the other (...this is not unusual. Chambering reamers both vary in acceptable manufacturing tolerances and wear from use; giving these slight but troublesome varriations in diameter and length....). This caused us to bump the shoulder back for both of 'em; loading for the "short chamber". We would be lucky to get five or six firings using this system with this "hard kicker". The brass would grow and need a re-trim. The extra material we were trimming of was stretching from the base of the brass (...what's the reason for dolomites excellent instruction on inspectinb brass looking for this thin spot...). The bottom line: ...If ya got one rifle; neck sizing works just fine. With two; it will be a miracle if a neck sized round for one rifle will work thru the action of a second identical caliber. (...Remember, this is for bolt guns...). ...The problem i see with neck sizing for semi autos (...ars...) is the problem of long/short chambering and a tight chamber vs a "loose" chamber. ...I would much perfer to size the 223 brass down to minimum size (...that is measured by the case gage...) for reliability of functioning for weapons that absolutely need to be reliable and fire every time ya pull the trigger. ...For the match shooting guys, who need to get the absolute max accuracy out of reloaded ammunition and where reliability of function is secondary; the neck and chamber sizing option is an excellent (...and the ultimate...) method of tailoring ammo to a specific rifle. Hope this helps. leroy

All:_______________ Please take the time to read this great article --- link here: Hero Gurkha handed bravery medal by Queen said: 'I thought I was going to die... so I tried to kill as many as I could' | Mail Online Take the time to check out the picture of this little brown man standing with the queen. We salute you, Corpral Dipprasad Pun, First Batallion, Royal Gurkah Rifles!! I wonder just what this little brown man would have had to do to win the Victoria Cross??!. With great admiration leroy

Bare:______________ Check D. M Bullard's "in stock" holsters. We have several, and they are a great product. Ya may find what you are looking for there. Good luck. leroy

To add to Dolomites post a bit; we used to have this problem pretty regularly when shooting the 300 win mags. The problem is pushing the shoulder of the case back too much; which is easy to do with full resizing like ya need to do with a 223. Ive found that the best investment ya can make with bottleneck cartridges (...esp the 223...) is a case gage. Link here: L.E. Wilson Case Length Headspace Gage 223 Remington - MidwayUSA . You can adjust your resizing die correctly with the gage. It will stop the case stretching and splitting problems. Just follow the instructions with the case gage and carefully adjust your resizing die to set the case head dead flush with the top of the gage (...or a couple or 3 thousands below flush... -- i think the spec is minus 10...) ; the see if it will chamber in your rifle. If not, adjust the die down a bit more and recheck. That makes the case fit the chamber within specs and will cut down on the stretching and case failures. Hope this helps. leroy

Thanks Dave. I had'nt seen this one. This one will be interesting. Sixty holes in one body is a lot of shootin. They musta thought he was a thoroughly dangerous man. leroy

Will:_____________ I'm suprized at this. I figured the Benellis were pretty good shotguns. Thanks again. leroy

I like it!!! Keep up the good work! leroy

...Lester:______________ I saw this one too the other day. Thanks for posting it. Looks to me like Sheriff Dupnik has got a lot of "splainin" to do on this one. I anxiously awaiting the real story on this one. Thanks again for posting this link. leroy

Thanks! I FINALLY understand this. WHEW!! Keep up the good work. leroy

Will and Rod make an excellent point in the above two posts. The fact is that any short barreled shotgun is a "tactical" shotgun. As close as mine comes to "tactical" is a plus 4 nordic components mag extension on my bps. In the old days they called 'em "riot" shotguns. "Riots" held 5 rounds (...countin the one in the spout...). They guarded many a prisoner and finished many a bad guy. I guess that criminals and hooligans are just tougher today. We've got four of them. Two model 97's, a model 12, and an ithaca 37; plus all the other "long barreled" shotguns. As ya can see, im a "riot" shotgun junkie. I'm lookin for a lightly used 870 police gun myself!! PS-- Will. If ya find two lightly used 870 20's ill take one too!! Cant help myself! Keep up the good work. leroy

Thanks for posting. leroy

RE: This I really like Vero's solution here. Obviously, the person starein aint too smart. I always make it a policy not to aggravate folks that i know are armed. Keep up good work. leroy

All:_______________ Seattle is a pretty interesting place. I used to travel into there in the middle to late 70's and the natives were "real folks"; just like the natives here in tennessee. It was a good place to live, work, and go sightseeing. Downtown Seattle was a largely a heavy manufacturing (...airplanes, shipbuilding, custom metal forging...) town with boeing havin a airfield for testing right smack in the middle of town. Seattle sits right on Puget sound, so you could go down to the sound and fish, ride the ferry, or just walk around. There was plenty of logging back up toward the mountains and plenty of mom and pop fishing guys too. Overall, a neat place to live and work. A beautiful clear day out there was as great a thing as you have ever seen. It appears that sometime up in the 80s to 90s; the hippies discovered seattle and made a rush toward it and took it over in lots of places (...including local government...). Im sure they are busy killin whatever is left up there; they do everywhere else. From this article, it would appear that the adults are fighting back somewhat. I wish 'em luck. Seattle and the surrounding territory is too great a place for a bunch of communist weenies to control. leroy

Wakes:_____________ The guys around here do a custom bore and thread for a choke for about $50. Plus, ya got to buy the choke. That turns a $110 barrel into a $185 barrel pretty quickly. Good luck with your project (..mine always cost more than i originally thought too!!...) leroy

Jonnin:_________________ This: If ya dont have one; go ahead and buy a case gage (...link here: L.E. Wilson Case Length Headspace Gage 223 Remington - MidwayUSA ...) and use it to adjust your sizing die. By the way, this is the voice of experience. It will save brass and make sure the rounds will chamber. Hope this helps. leroy

Sidewinder:_____________ Got a similar project in progress. I intend to use the brass magtech 410 shells and use the old time card and fiber wads, then glue in the overshot card with a good glue (...like elmers ...). We loaded blackpowder loads for an old remington sidehammer double when the son was shooting CAS with good results. You can do the same thing with smokless powder (...i intend to use alliant herco .... check out the alliant site for the load data....). Check out these guys: BALLISTIC PRODUCTS INC - SHOTGUNNER SUPPLIES - 888-273-5623. I would give 'em a call. They may may be able to help. They make some custom shotgun reloading stuff. Hope this helps. leroy

Wakes:_____________ Check the latest Midway flier. It seems i saw an 18 inch aftermarket 870 barrel for about $110. Beltaine: I just did some of this. I didnt bother to add a set of ghost rings. Just a normal bead front. All i did was to add a nordic components magazine extension. Still need a tritium front sight bead (....probably $50 or so...). Got the shotgun exactly like i like it. If you decide to DIY, take a look at the nordic components magazine extensions. There is nothing else out there that is close. I just put a plus 4 on a browning bps (...cost $78 bucks...). They are hands down the best extension ive ever seen. All that being said; like Garfua says, if ya can buy a lightly used police trade in for $250 - $300 thats the way to go. (...i can never find 'em when the notion hits me for this kind of stuff!!...). Ya also got to understand that i'm a "shotgun junkie"; so i like 'em all; from model 97's thru 870s, to auto 5's, to the shotgun that winchester (...and everybody else...) should have made (...and mossberg kinda did....)....), the browning bps. Hope this helps. leroy