MP5_Rizzo

I'm in for #28.   I don't know if this has ever been mentioned before but what's the possibility of getting TGO branded pocket clips?

I have 2 frames and several barrels ranging from .223 - .45/70.  I gave up hunting deer with rifles about 15 years ago. Since I'm not as mad at deer as I used to be I thought I would give them  a little more of an advantage.  My first deer with a T/C was at 125 yards chambered in 6MM TCU and a 4X20 Leupold on top.  I've also used .35 Remington but I'm not a fan of recoil like I was in my younger years.  My go to caliber now is 7-30 Waters Super 14 with a muzzle break, mild recoil and it shoots very tight groups off a bench.  When I say tight groups I can maintain 1/2" groups and my best ever was a .155" 3 shot group at 100 yards.

I have shipped several long guns via USPS.  I usually take down shotguns, remove barrel from the receiver, which allows to be shipped in a much shorter box.  Doing this aides to eliminate a package that screams firearm enclosed.

Too dang much! Leftovers for daaaaays!

Can't beat a good Christmas story!

PayPal works for me. I don't use it often but when I do it's fast and easy.

Don't be comparing polymer to plastic.  It kind of ruffle the feathers of some when you start telling them they shoot a plastic guns.

  You are correct, Meplat trimming does reduce the BC, the number crunchers put it at a 2% reduction on average.  The BC's for the ballistic tip match grade bullets are better. The whole meplat trimming thing is to uniform the bullets to maintain consistency.  The way I see it is that meplat trimming is a less expensive way to achieve the same result as the new heat resistant ballistic tips.  The Hornady revelation was that BC's were reducing at longer ranges as the polymer tips were eroding from heat caused by friction. whether it's heat resistant ballistic tipped or meplat trimmed you have maintained bullet uniformity from muzzle to impact.  I don't really get caught up in choosing bullets based on the best BC available. Yes it matters but if the bullets are uniform and you keep them supersonic to impact you will get consistent results.  Yes, long range paper punchers do get caught up in this kind of stuff and their opinions vary widely,  they are always looking for something to give them an edge and Hornady knows that.

I suppose I can retire the Sinclair Meplat Trimmer now, or not.

This may or may not be the big announcement but if it is I too will be underwhelmed over the super top secret Hornady announcement. Like these sort of things go, I'm only going to say I heard this from a reliable source. It seems there were some guys hunting with night vision and they could see the polymer tip on their bullets catching fire in flight from the friction. This was evidently happening when shooting at longer ranges. Hornady must have confirmed this and developed a new tip material. The new tip material is comparable to that found on the space shuttle that prevents it from burning up when reentering the atmosphere, so it must be some kind of ceramic. I have no experience hunting with night vision but I find it hard to belive they were hunting with even the best night vision at a distance of over 200 yards. We will no for certain in 2 days and I'm not on the edge of my seat with anticipation.

My first thought.   I've toured their plant in Grand Island Nebraska twice.  Most recently in June and the first was 2014 same month.  I saw no evidence of tooling or new machines on my most recent tour.  The one major difference was the abundent inventory compared to year ago.  Warehouse was shelves were quite sparse last year.

I knew it was coming and I understand their reasoning. I've had new junior shooters that have never shot a rifle without optics. I' m glad to see they put a 11.5 pound weight limit on rifles with optics, may or may not give the iron shooters a little advantage but I like it. Kind of surprised the M14's are still iron sights only. I guess some of the the optics manufacturers already have some 4.5 X specific scopes with 200, 300 amd 600 yard come ups in the works.

Wonder what the guy holding the balloons did wrong to get that job?

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  I shot high power across the course for about 12 plus years.  I got in about the time everyone was starting to change over to the black rifle.  The M14's dominated the sport up until then but faster twist barrels barrels and high BC heavy .224 bullets were giving the .308 guys some unwanted competition.  You will find a few old schoolers still shooting the M14, M1A's and Garands but the AR's are the way to go if you are shooting short to mid-range.  In distance shooting 600 yards in considered mid range.  Then came along F Class,  many of the older shooters that were not up to shooting standing and sitting decided we'll create something where all we have to do is shoot slow fire prone and make it a challenge we'll only shoot at 1000 yards.  Somewhere about 10 or so years ago there were way too many perfect 200 - 20X scores so they tightened up the scoring rings.  Some reduced courses do exist due to range limitations aiming black and scoring rings are adjusted for MOA.   Just for fun I've shot my AR out to 1000 yards and kept them in the scoring rings and like most rifles the gun can out perform the operator more times than not.  I'm not going to get into wind calling and mirage, you'll figure all that stuff out if you stick with it.   Now having said all that I would not attempt F Class without a bolt gun.  You can be competitive with a .223/5.56, that is if you are will to spend a lot of time load testing and practicing.  You said you have a .308, if it's a bolt gun that's what I would recommend but you should still do some load testing if you want to be competitive.  Long distance shooters tend to be some of the most anal OCD types I've ever been around.  Not saying that in a degrading way to them or anyone else of that nature but that's the way they lean and you have to be to some extent if you plan to keep shots in the X ring at this distance.   I guarantee that if you show up for a match and make it know it's all new to you, they will do everything to accommodate you.  While I was shooting we had people show up occasionally and said they just wanted to watch.  Well before you knew it we would scrounge up enough equipment and they would be shooting on the next relay. 

Ahh, brings back memories of the the good old days.  Like before a wife and children.  I could do anything anytime if I wanted to.  I made a landing or two at Mike Romeo Charlie (MRC, 3 letter identifier Maury County Airport.  I earned my certificate in 1988,  Av Gas was under $2.00 / gal. and a Cessna 152 was $40.00/hr. and a Piper Cherokee was $52.00/hr., both were wet meaning including fuel.  Somewhere around 1989 I bought a 1967 Cessna 172.  I thought I was big time when I purchased a used Northstar Loran ( state of the art form of GPS that triangulated position by radio signals designed during WW II for Naval ships crossing the Atlantic).  I married in 1992 and figured it was time to sell the Cessna. I made a decent profit in the short time I owned it.  A quick search shows these are selling for $30 - $35k now.  That's more than double what gave initially gave for mine.   Back then there was a thing called a $100.00 hamburger,  when you had nothing better to do so some fellow aviators picked a place that was within a non-stop for fuel flight,  fly there go to lunch and return home only to have spent $100.00 or more.  I guess these days it would be closer to $300.00 plus hamburger.  Best wishes that she earns her certificate.  She will have memories that will never fade and maybe inspire her to make a career out of it. 

Oh come on, they need something to chop those day old donuts into bite size morsels!

I'm in for a two tone. Next lowest number available.

There is a place off the town square in Huntingdon, I'm thinking it's Mallard's. I've never eaten there but they did cater an event I attended in the area about 5 months ago. The food was good and I heard a local say it was an area favorite.

I totally understand the not posting photos. I was just yanking your chain. If anybody out there is wondering, that's his happy look!

The Korean M1 Carbines were to be reimported and the best I can remember O did put a stop to back in 2013 by executive order.   On the other hand the 1911's are housed here in the US of A and attached to the NDA Act makes things a little different. 

The photo of the guys in the back of the truck or on a wagon look as if they are praying on there way into battle.  I see no photographic evidence that a dove was seen or on this hunt?

I can't name one, I watch several.  In the catagory of gun reviews, Hickcock wins by a wide margin.  For entertainment value Barry and Eric at Moss Pawn occasionally make me chuckle but I lean toward  22 Plinkster,  maybe because he's my hometown Youtuber.  In the catagory of improvig my pistol game and learning technique Jerry Miculeck is the man.  Then there are my scattergun personalities, Todd Bender, Gil Ash, Harlan Campbell and the late Leo Harrison.  I was a competitive High Power shooter for years and currently coach 10 meter Air Rifle, so I have to check out Kirsten Joy Weiss on occasion just to check her technique.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeQC1oeGauc

There is a Best Western in McKenzie. If your route is by way of I-40 Exit 108 there are a couple of motels there as well but it seems like I remember it being a little over 20 minutes to McKenzie. Betwen I-40 and McKenzie you will pass through Huntingdon. There is a motel e as well but I can't remember the name of it. Not a chain but it appears well kept and clean from the outside. FYI there is an awesome shooting sports park in McKenzie.

  Just an FYI.  I hope you are already aware of something found under prohibited acts in the current TWRA regulations, item 5 in particular.     5.  No Person shall make use of bait to take        wildlife unless the bait has been removed and        any electronic feeder disabled at least 10 days        prior to hunting.   So if you want to be legal, make sure you cut off the well fare corn to the critters 10 days before climbing into your stand with a bow, crossbow or firearm.  Game wardens have a way of finding yellow brick (or corn) roads.   Rizzo