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More importantly, ask why are you not allowed to talk about it? Why are YouTube videos and articles being memory-holed? Why are Dr's and scientists blackballed when trying to get the word out? One side shuts down the debate by saying "the science is settled!" Again with the manipulation of language... The very fact that one side wishes to debate, would indicate the science is in fact not settled. Rather if one is interested in 'science', they should welcome rigorous debate and probing questions. True science is never satisfied, constantly probing further, testing and re-testing hypothesis'. We all KNEW the Earth was flat at one time, and the sun and stars orbited our home. The science was settled.

I appreciate the information and sharing your opinion @MacGyver. Education and training such as yours is much needed in the public debate surrounding this issue. I am not a trusting-by-nature type person, polar opposite in fact. There are several issues surrounding these medications (gene therapy, its NOT a vaccine) that I take issue with, the simplest being the blatant coersion. It ties in with my mental wiring of not trusting people. I _really_ don't trust people who try shoving something down my throat. When someone deliberately mis-uses language (its NOT a vaccine) to foster a sense of comfort, that right there is an Orwellian red flag use of Newspeak in my book (otherwise known as propaganda). "Mostly peaceful riots" That stuff gets my radar active. Kinda like when someone looks up and to the right when you ask them a simple question - you know they're about to lie to you? Things like that set off triggers that predispose my attitude towards something/one. If I catch you doing that (looking up/right), everything you say is immediately suspect. Ditto any use of Newspeak - it tells me you're either an idiot who doesn't understand English, or you are trying to manipulate me with language. Either one creates a very short conversation. Stir in all the other factors surrounding Covid, and you have a giant stew of stay-the-####-away-from-me. I understand the public health implications of a percentage of the population being unvaccinated, truly. All of that blather about doing your part falls on deaf ears here, as ones opinion of the severity of this disease outbreak predicates the need for vaccination. If one were to be of the opinion this is 'a bad flu', or some such shade of gray thats short of 'global depopulation event', than the need for mass vaccination doesn't even exist. In that context, suggesting I HAVE to get it throws another red flag for me. (I'm not suggesting @MacGyver is trying to tell me I have to get the jab, merely pointing to the current media message). This is why when the world + dog says "oh won't you think of the children!" I find myself scratching my head and asking why, and who benefits? Useful life skill right there folks.... And once you start down THAT rabbit hole, well, lets just say that its the entire foundation surrounding the current situation I'm just not comfortable with. The whole topic has taken on so much more than a medical debate about thresholds and treatment protocols. I wish that weren't the case, but the world we live in isn't black and white. Had the issue not taken on a political dimension, had the media and fedgov not viciously attacked and tried banning anything not following WHO orthodoxy, had MD's and scientists like yourself not been fired/cancelled/blacklisted/banned for simply suggesting alternative therapys to the jab, I might play along in a few years after more testing and data analysis can take place. On that we most certainly agree: we are about to get a very large pool of data to work with. I do hope my fears are unfounded. If I am wrong, that would be great! If I'm right however... I'll ask a rhetorical question, its a simple test to ask yourself, anyone can do it, but as a scientist (I don't know what your specific field is, but its irrelevant assuming you're not at retirement age or independently wealthy): would you publish a research paper you did on the effectiveness of Hydroxycholoroquine, Ivermectin, and Vitamin D therapies against Covid infections today? Guess how I know you're over the target?

When we first moved here we told the kids "oh look, the cloud machine is running!" They take everything Dad says with a grain of salt. Buddy of mine just retired from there last year! That new stack is supposed to be the latest and greatest clean-coal technology?

Thanks for sharing the outcome. I recall the conversation. You ended up using one of those dakota alarm type systems, right?

Indeed! First run of beans got hit by Dogwood winter. Second run looks kinda weak... found this site: https://m.facebook.com/plantingbysigns And put third run of beans in Weds... right on time if this lady is to be believed. I had read about planting by the signs in that Foxfire series of books. Interested to see how this pans out, the new run of beans is right next to the weak ones that were planted in the wrong sign.

I guess I'm not communicating my point clearly. The actual data point being debated is pointless, as I do not feel the source is trustworthy.

Agreed. Last stat from the CDC said 94% were bogus, I believe? Or was it 96%? After being LIED TO continually by the organ known as FedGov throughout your entire life why would anyone choose to believe a narrative filled with as many holes as this one? Theres a littany of examples throughout history, past and present, completely 100% provable. I can't understand why anyone would trust anything from "the ministry of truth".

Working with a fellow at the moment right now who used to be part of the Mexican Marines. Shared many stories of the rendition flights he helped transfer 'packages' for the CIA. ITS NOT WATERBOARDING IF YOU USE DIESEL! The very same people are insisting the entire global population inject themselves with a novel concoction they say is a vaccine, or else 3 out of 10,000 of them MIGHT die. I'm truly astounded at people. It makes me side with the de-populationists. Too many uselsss breathers.

We did. THATs why we gave the money to China to do the research.

LMAO! We need to startup an Obit section on TGO so we all know when to start pimping the widow for her plans for the collection!

LOL @leroy! I agree with your sentiment but have come to the opposite conclusion. I believe it is their intent to increase the level of violence. You ain't seen nothing, yet.

Craigslist farm and garden forum should be busy!

Just because the CDC quietly admitted over 94% of "covid death statistics" were actually co-morbidities WITH Covid, and only 6% of the people listed as Covid deaths actually DIED of the disease itself, is no reason to disagree with what the talking head on facetwat told me. You're making me want my safe space.

They look like firewood tree's to me!

Got some work done in the pasture garden Sunday. Planted taters, squash (3 kinds), beans, cotton, peanuts, and 3 kinds of melon seeds. Probably have to replant half of it, but I enjoy the time in the dirt. Frost got my first round of beans, too. Hopefully blackberry winter skips us this year. 2nd set already popped!

There is A LOT of evidence out there about these jabs, you just have to be willing to find it and read it yourself. If one is waiting for the 6 O'Clock news to tell them what they need to know, then that person is already lost. Thats the problem we are facing as a society, nobody thinks for themselves anymore. Too hard. I'll just accept what the talking head tells me, and forget that it contradicts what the talking head said last year. We've always been at war with eastasia. Orwell was right.

They're not terrible. Like @MacGyver said, as much is on the thrower! My Son regularly shows up his old man.... we've actually had better luck with the passive traps you can bait and setup. Put it in the night before, fresh bait when we launch the boat in the morning. Even towed the thing behind the canoe like a bait pail. Worked!

LOL! My Mal is indefatiguable. HOURS chasing the ball all day long. Wifey got me a "Chucker" plastic clay-pigeon-throwing-looking-thing @E4 No More mentioned. Great gizmo, only reason I still have an arm. Fits regular balls, too. Gets ~50 yards off a good toss.

Yessssss..... I think the cop-shoots-knife-girl was a big WTF moment for some people, too. The media cries wolf, everyone with 2 brain cells re-tweets "If you happen to see someone about to stab me..." Thats the only hope, that enough people wake up to whats being fed to them.

I have well and city water, both are fine. City plumbed to the house. Septic only where I am out in the country, but sewer "in-town" most places. On the West side of Knox Oak Ridge Sportsman Assoc (ORSA) has by far the best range, and they host all kinds of competitions. Up there on the plateau they have clubs, but honestly, I think ORSA is one of the nicest ones in TN, possibly the SouthEast. It would be a hike to commute, but you could train locally and compete there. I'd suggest 10-20 acres a good 15 minutes outside "town". Don't sweat the infrastructure issues, septic systems can always be pumped.

Yeah, ditto. I downloaded it, fired it up, wanted to own my phone (requested permission/access to... everything, at all times). Nope. Looks like a neat tool and cool idea/application of technology. I'm just horribly jaded and don't trust anybodythingwhere. Theres definitely something there, tho.

I agree... and for some folks I think thats important: my wife has trouble shooting 9mm or .38s out of smaller guns b/c her wrists are in bad shape from work. She never carries anymore, has a small knife in her purse. At the grocery store, or in a parkinglot, nobody is going to measure your barrel diameter when you whip that thing out and point it at them. And while tiny, I'd still rather not get peppered with something moving 1000 fps. And a little .22, you could do a mag dump in seconds.... thats a deterrent. I had looked at the Glock .22s when they came out for her, but couldn't bring myself to pay that for a toy (not to say tupperware guns are bad, just that one glock is terrible). Now with ammo designed for the task, I might look at some other pistols in that caliber for her to use.... and I'm sure I'll find a use for her Ruger, somehow. Thanks for sharing @Jamie Jackson, I know your experience in the medical realm is hands on. Often wondered how those news stories on the gang bangers always say "non-life threatening injuries".

Hahah @RED333, I hear ya. Thats why I posted Herr Schumann's picture! Rode my bike across the Rainbow Bridge (Niagara Falls) when I was a teen. By myself! My only ID was a library card! Even if my passport was current, I couldn't go. Sad times. Over a fake pandemic... I honestly take solace in the fact things are accelerating and moving more quickly now. Its how you KNOW the time is getting closer! Buckle up buckaroos!

Dogs are by far the better choice, IMO.