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I've OC'ed there once or twice. It's the closeat AZ to my house and I have gone up there a couple of times to get something but forgot my vest when I left the house. Never had a problem other than, like you said, a glance or two, but no one has ever said anything or freaked out.

I OC at work, but I work in a gunshop, so nobody cares, and most people seem to expect it. I OC other places rarely, and it's usually for some specific reason, such as, I left to go to lunch and didn't take my vest because I was planning on going through the drive through. There is one particular burger shop I go to sometimes that doesn't have a drive through and I forget that because the one near my house does have drive through. Very rarely does anybody even seem to notice, although one time at the burger shop, I overheard some guys at a table saying I couldn't get a "real" cop job so I had to settle for a rent-a-cop job. I happened to think it was funny (their ignorance) because I wasn't wearing anything that could have remotely been thought of as a uniform, so I wondered why their first thought was "security guard."

IDPA is a great place to start, especially if you are using a "normal" everyday carry gun. I started with IDPA some years ago and really enjoyed it, and now I shoot a little bit of everything. I used to shoot semi-regularly in the Nashville area, I'm sure there are some clubs close. Check the IDPA page for club locations.

have to chime in with an agreeing nod. I have actually seen very used guns in pawn shops for MORE than they go for new, on many occassions. ETA: In Memphis. I have also noticed that many pawn shops here are not willing to negotiate prices at all. I HAVE seen good deals in other places when I've travelled.

I hit a couple of 8 inch metal plates at about 200 or so yards once with a Sig 226 in 9mm I think. I won't tell you how many shots I fired. I'll just say I hit a couple of 8 inch plates. penitus via plures, baby!

The last year or so, I've only averaged around 2000 rounds a month or so. I used to shoot much more than that. I go to the range about once a week, sometimes twice, and fire at least a couple of hundred rounds. Last week, I fired about 500, but I was there several hours. I practice a variety of shooting...both hands, weak hand, weaker hand, close range, not-so-close range, fast shooting, slower more accurate shooting.

Government rules: 1. It doesn't have to make sense. 2. When in doubt, see #1.

I had jury duty here a few years ago. When I went, we met at the coliseum. Basically the meeting there was: A guy got up and stated the reasons you can get out of jury duty. There aren't very many. We were told, "If you don't qualify due to one of these reasons, DO NOT come down here." Then after that was over, they told us to come down to get our jury card. I went down front and was given a card with a date on it. Then, on the date listed, I showed up downtown at the Shelby County building. Each morning we sat in a meeting room until called. I was called on about Wednesday. You are called along with about 30 people. You go across the street to whichever courtroom and sit in the court room during the voir dire (is that spelled right?) process. If you are called for that jury, you stay. If not, you go back into the jury selection pool. In my case, I was dismissed from that particular jury because someone in my family had been involved in something similar and the lawyer said I would have too much of a preconceived notion about the case. After being dismissed, I went back across the street to the waiting area. On Thursday morning, we were told they had filled all the jury positions for the week and we could go home.

The extension letter comes automatically a few days after they receive your renewal check. The letter is deceptive. It doesn't say, or at least mine didn't, anywhere on the letter that it's only good for 90 days. I found that out by calling the Dept of Safety.

I renewed mine by mail last time. One suggestion: If you renew by mail, send it off the day you get it. Don't wait until your permit is almost ready to expire. My renewal took over 90 days and the extension letter you get is only good for 90 days and they will not issue a second extension letter.

Normally, manufacturers' "new product" warranties apply from date of original retail purchase, which is part of the reason I define new as when it is first sold retail. In the case of vehicles, at least some manufacturers do not consider mileage on the vehicle as part of the warranty if the vehicle is new. In other words, if you purchase a new car with 1200 miles on it and the car has a 36,000 mile warranty, the manufacturer will warrant the original purchaser until 37,200 miles. I don't know how common that is, but I have had two instances where a new car was warranted for repairs beyond the exact mileage on the odomenter. Of course, I realize firearms aren't generally warranted for a certain number of shots. Most people that I have dealt with consider a gun "not new" if is has been pre-owned, regardless of whether it has been shot. In the shops where I have worked, we have been (generally) unsuccessful getting new retail prices or even close to new retail for any gun that is preowned, even if it hasn't been shot. Yes, agreed, which was my point. If a person is happy with some product they purchased at the price they paid, it doesn't really matter what anyone else thinks.

So I guess we have to explain every single word in a post now. In a very general sense, people can define terms however they want to. I define "new" as having never been sold to a retail customer, which, as best I can tell, is a fairly standard definition. Having been sold to a distributor, then to a retail establishment is part of the wholesale distribution process. I thought it was reasonably obvious that I was referring to a retail sale, and not to the wholesale distribution of the product. And, yes, I know that guns are fired at the factory. That doesn't change the fact that the gun is considered new. They start engines in cars at the factory, but the car is still considered new until it is sold retail. There isn't a time limit. It doesn't matter how long it is at the retailer as long as it hasn't been previously sold. And again, as I said, people can define terms however they want to. If one person considers a product new until it is some number of months old, then that is that person's opinion. If another person considers a product new as long as it hasn't been used no matter how many people have owned it, that is that person's opinion. Neither one is necessarily wrong, neither is necessarily right. It's an opinion.

Whether it can be resold as new is mostly a matter of ethical opinion. Most people seem to believe that once a gun is sold and leaves the store, it isn't ethical to take it back as a trade but then resell it to someone else as new. Conversely, some people think there is nothing unethical about doing that. Personally, I wouldn't want to buy a gun (or any product) somewhere for full retail then find out it had been previously owned, but as I said, that's just my opinion.

Found this. I have some more information at home and will post it later if I can find it. From Commonwealth v. Heidler, "In order to prove joint constructive possession, the Commonwealth ... must prove that Appellant had both the power to control and the intent to control the firearm. Commonwealth v. Magwood, 538 A.2d 908, 909-10 (Pa. Super. 1988)."

I wish I had links, but at the moment, I don't. Based on what I have read, several superior courts have held that constructive possession includes not only access, but intent. So simply being in the vincinity of a gun does not, in and of itself, mean the felon has constructive possession. The felon must have had the ability and also displayed intent to control the gun.

I used to have a P11 and I liked it, but that doesn't sound like a particularly good deal. I think I'd skip it too. I fired a few thousand rounds through my P11 and never had any trouble with it. I never fired it beyond 10 or 12 yards, but it was fine for those distances. Not a tack driver, but suffienciently accurate for self defense.

This is a little self serving, but the store where I work is normally not busy. Although, I will add that I haven't had too many negative experiences at G&A. The biggest issue is they are always very busy. I've bought a bunch of guns there over the years, although nothing recently.

I really like that...first time I've seen it. Also worth noting, besides just shootings, in the last few years, there have been several attacks at churches involving swords or machetes, and in the 3 cases that I recall right off hand, at least a couple of people were killed, and a bunch injured.

my reply to "why would you carry in church" is: I may have to shoot somebody. Being inside a building called church doesn't automatically preclude the chances of that happening.

Arms-Fair in Cordova has CD in .38, .357, 9mm, .40, and .45 at the moment. And some 10mm in Hornady Custom (not CD)

I didn't see the word "misfire" mentioned. Misfire is a failfure to fire. You pull the trigger, the hammer falls, then nothing else ever happens. Some of the others may have already been mentioned. A hangfire is similar to a misfire, except the round eventually fires: You pull the trigger, the hammer falls, then several seconds later the round fires. A squib is when the round fires but doesn't fire with enough force to send the bullet all of the way out of the barrel. (IE: You now have a piece of lead stuck in the barrel). A double feed is when a fresh round is trying to enter the chamber before the fired round has ejected. Many people interchange the words "misfire" and "malfunction" but technically, a misfire is a type of malfunction.

It is true that they normally send a notice, but I have heard a whole bunch of people claim they never got one, so personally, I would keep track of the date on my long range calendar, just in case.

Yes, that's correct. The TBI charges the dealer $10 for each transaction, regardless of the disposition. I know of several dealers that charge some sort of fee in addtional to the $10. There is one local dealer here where you must pay in full before the transaction is run, then if denied, you are refunded the amount less $100. Several other dealers that I know of charge a total of $35. ($25 + $10)

same here. I had a P32 that I fired a couple of thousand rounds through. The only reason I sold it is because I never actually carried it and a friend of mine wanted it.

my 2 cents: My only objective in a self defense situation is to go home alive and unhurt. As long as the immediate threat has ended, I'm fine with that, regardless of how it ended.