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  1. What is a "right"? A right is something you are born with, a natural right, such as self defense, life, liberty etc.  Having a right does not mean others will not violate them, either by force or threat thereof.  Just because that right is taken away or regulated does not mean you don't have it. Where do they come from? Force, because again, others will violate them if not defended. How do you exercise them? Depends on the right, self defense is a given, 1st Amendment is exercised by not allowing the government to silence those that oppose government actions. The 2nd is exercised by owning guns and supporting others to to do the same and resisting efforts by those that would violate those rights by passing laws that limit them unnecessarily. What are their limiting factors? The major limiting factor is when that right violates an other's right.  The law (society) also can have an impact, we regulate left and right limits to the 1st, tools for the 2nd etc.   Do you still possess them if prevented from exercising them? Absolutely.  Rights cannot be taken away, they can be violated, but not taken away.  You can forfeit certain rights by violating the rights of others such as by murder or grievously injuring someone, but those are legally violated by agreement within a civilized society. Can you have a right to a thing? Yes, and no.  We have the right to anything we can afford to own or make, we do not have the right to a thing which is owned or payed for by others.   Can you have a right to a service? No, and yes.  Again, we have the right to services which we pay for, or are qualified to receive.  Such as medical, fire and yes, police enforcement.   The last two are not what I would deem natural rights, but an extension of those rights.  Making laws which limit how we can exercise or defend our rights is a tricky proposition to except. Laws such as speed limits or not being able to yell fire in an elevator, come from protecting others and many will accept that without question.  Other laws such as gun rights are more polar, some, like me, do not believe ownership should be regulated, while others do not feel anyone should own guns.  Now gun use is a trickier situation, as the line between my right and yours is much more blurred.  I firmly believe that we have the right to have a gun anyplace where our lives may be put in danger, and we have the right to have what ever is needed according to the threat. If we lived in a Utopian society, where no one wanted to hurt one another then maybe I can accept not being able to carry, but as it is those laws only hinder the law abiding.
  2. Let's take deities out of the equation; I mistakenly used it as an example of what I always hear as an argument.  I personally am not a believer of any deities.  I believe everyone has a natural right to self defense, and any tool which may be used to defend one's self is therefore an extension of that right.  I never said I, or anyone, should lay down due to the lack of weapons.  But at the same time there should be no limit to what weapons one can use.  Allowing these restrictions only emboldens them to make more restrictions until we no longer have access to any weapons.    Felons in prison have forfeited certain rights, this is what we have come to agree upon to be a civilized society. They have the right to self defense with whatever their opponents have, and since they attempt to keep all weapons away from all parties that leaves guns out.   As far as citizenship goes, I agree with you to a point.  But currently we would need to change the Constitution in order to change that, and that should not be taken lightly because they may change more than that.
  3. Looking across the web it's hard to avoid anti government sites, this one does a decent job at at least trying to describe the two:   http://www.keepandbeararms.com/newsarchives/XcNewsPlus.asp?cmd=view&articleid=273    One can slip off the far right side of this cliff if you are not careful.
  4. I beg to differ, I see the right of Self Defense as the basis for the Second Amendment.  If the threat is such that a tank is needed to preserve one's own life then so be it; no one should be allowed to keep anything away from you that is required for self defense.  If we concede that having a gun is a privilege, we are in deep trouble with those that want to take that "privilege" away.   "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."   Nowhere does it state you need to be a citizen.  It's one of those things that seems counterintuitive, but every human has the right to self defense, no matter what soil their feet are standing on at the moment.  
  5. Voting is reserved for citizens but the rest are allowed to be applied, specifically, to all. And we only deny rights, such as gun possession, to those CONVICTED of a felony.
  6. With respect to the internet, it may be a safety valve of sorts.  Crazies have a place to spout off without having to resort to actually doing anything.  And if some look to be getting out of hand, maybe a quick call to LEO for a personal interview can be arranged.
  7. I have come across a few movie sets in public areas, most will have it marked quite well to let the public know a scene is being filmed.  In this case, it would of been easy enough to yell at the guy to get his attention before deciding to fire.  Its speculative I know, since the right set of circumstances would of been needed to get involved prior to him firing.  But he took enough time between holding the gun and actually firing for someone to get the attention of any of the three, their reaction would of cemented the fact that he was up to no good.  Of course many of us may of hesitated long enough that it may not have mattered either way so its mere speculation at this point.
  8. From this link, there are others but it does a good job of explaining that the Declaration of Independence is based off of "inalienable rights" and the Constitution attempts to codify those rights.   "The legal philosophy known as Declarationism seeks to incorporate the natural rights philosophy of the United States Declaration of Independence into the body of American case law on a level with the United States Constitution, since the unanimously agreed upon Doctrines of the Declaration of Independence is the foundational authority upon which the People and the Continental Congress of the 13 British Colonies of America based their power to legitimately separate from England and establish its own government (i.e. the Constitution of the United States). Declarationism philosophy, therefore, insists that if the United States rejects the natural rights philosophy of the Declaration of Independence upon which it was founded, it of necessity becomes, retro-actively, an illegitimate government in treasonous rebellion against its rightful government of Crown and Parliament in London; and therefore, the Declaration and Constitution must be held as legally inseparable throughout the entire United States of America (both Federal and State) and its territories."
  9. Either you support the 2nd Amendment for all or you don't support the 2nd Amendment.  We yell and scream that they are taking our God Given Rights away when they pass gun laws yet now we want to put qualifiers on them?  If your position is that these are rights we are born with, then why does it not apply to other human beings?
  10. It's amazing what we don't see:   https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI_17jgEdAI   Watch how much the arrow flexed on release.
  11. It's hard to know what he was up to before he actually acted.  Ever seen someone and just "knew" they were not acting right?  There are incidents that are either stopped due to someone calling attention to people not acting right or acting on their instincts just prior to them committing their acts.
  12. To be honest, there is no mention either way; it just says he pulled out the gun.  Difficult to speculate if the officer felt he, or anyone, was in danger or not.  I guess its best to let the TBI sort it out a bit first.
  13. Its in lexis nexis under Tenn. Code Ann. § 39-17-1311 and 39-17-1351 http://www.lexisnexis.com/hottopics/tncode/
  14. According to the hunting regs it appears that you can have a rifle in a boat:   Hunting From Motorized Vehicle or Vessel Where hunting is allowed from vessels, it is legal to hunt from any vessel, so long as the vessel is not under forward motion from any influence of mechanical means or sail. On private property, it is legal to hunt from any motorized vehicle (to include ATVs, golf carts, etc.), provided the vehicle is stationary. Nothing in the subsection shall be construed as authorizing hunting from a vessel, automobile, or other motor vehicle while under power. Nothing in this subsection permits hunting from or across a public road or right-of-way.    So as far as having ammo, I would guess it could be on the boat as well but the rifle probably has to be unloaded while underway.  Of course then you would have to be decked out in blaze orange, in season, and licensed, and it does not address SD issues.
  15. From the 15'-16' hunting guide:    "Hunting near private dwellings: It is unlawful to hunt, shoot at, chase or kill with or without dogs any wild animal, wild birds or waterfowl on public lands and waters within 100 yards of a visible dwelling house, without the owner’s permission, whether or not such a dwelling is on public or private lands. "   Edit: TNShooter posted as I was editing; Yes, according to TWRA, the distance in the regs is for dwellings while on public land.  I have a house that may or may not be within 100 yards depending on where I hunt and have asked.  Of course I do not shoot in that direction, but if on my far corner I am within 50 yards of the house.  I do have communication with the land owner and have permission to retrieve any deer that may cross over after the shot and they know where I setup my stands.
  16. Shoot it first, see if it effects POI, if it does, then look to polish the feed ramps a bit.
  17. I thought they did consider it a motor vehicle since you can get a DUI while boating?  Maybe not for carrying though.
  18. Not sure which pill you were using but for one like it I have: Hornady 150 FMJ-BT 3037, OAL: 2.065   PM me your email, I can send you some 300Blk info.
  19. Not sure about shooting at night in your area but of the gun choices I would use the 223 due to possible distance and shot placement.
  20. They made enough of the character Tobias, that there is little doubt he will play a part in the following episodes.  I haven't done the sync since most times I catch it on dvr, what does it do?

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