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May be they hadn't seen these videos.

Sounds like someone that needs a conservative challenger next election.

Welcome to the neighborhood

No doubt, depending on what cartridge they use, the distance is decent, but even then it's dangerous. That is why teams must train, while one officer has the perp's attention, remember tunnel vision works both ways, the other can employ the non-lethal. Though at my age and physical traits (and some LEOs too), I would need three times that distance and still be in the danger zone. TASER 7 Probe Spread - Cartridge Comparison (vimeo.com)

Never been a cop, or played one on tv, and Holiday Inn has become too expensive, so take it for what it's worth. All this is in hindsight, and there is no telling what changing one of the links would do to the chain of events. Having said that, there are only a couple things that I seen that may have been done differently, and the circumstances could have turned out differently. Mind you, I say differently, not better or worse. One is that the second LEO could have gone less lethal sooner, if he had employed a taser, it may have turned out the same, but maybe not. The drawback of course is that the LEO staying lethal needs to cover him and he best be a good shot if the perp turns his attention to his partner or doesn't go down when tazed. The other thing was that once the first shots went off, they could have rushed in and secured his hands immediately. Here, the drawback could be that the perp may have another weapon, knife or gun, and the officers may or may not have seen what happened to the knife he originally had, which often happens due to tunnel vision, so may not have been an option. The last thing I want to point out is that you never assume a perp is down for the count, always be prepared to send more rounds into him just in case. And as a civilian, never approach someone you shot, let medics or LEO do that, he may be faking or still have enough energy to do you harm.

Anyone catch that there were live and dummy rounds at the prop shop too (second link)? Sounds like the entire industry needs a safety protocol makeover.

Under SOCOM, phones and all personal devices are unauthorized in most buildings, specially if there are any classified networks in use, which is most of them on our compound. Of course, they can learn a lot from them when outside, but it's a start.

I had the same question, but seen a vid where the guy made a good argument, sort of. Apparently the missile didn't have a payload, so he compared it to shooting an arrow vs a shotgun. And another issue I'm not sure anyone touched on, is the F22 has a ceiling lower than the 60-65k feet the balloon was at so the angle may not have been conducive to using the gun and still minimising damage.

LMFAO

Well, I'll spin the wheel. I'm going to submit any lower originally purchased through an FFL as pistol lower, with brace, for a free stamp. My lowers purchased as stripped lowers will remain pistols. I'm going the paper route, I ordered and received my Form 1s from the ATF so the most it will cost is the fingerprint ink I ordered, and postage to send them in.

Funny, but some things can be learned from that. First, civilians can reach international airspace. If a small armed drone can be lifted up there in that manner, maybe it can engage the next balloon somewhere over the Pacific. Oh, and also that plastic, or rubber? freezes or becomes extremely brittle at those altitudes, so one may need better materials for anything you send up there.

I'm not, but they will already be behind schedule replacing all the armament going to Ukraine, don't need to be wasting what we have left.

Which is another mystery, why shoot a missile? A few well placed 20mm rounds into the body of the balloon could have made less of a mess of the payload, possibly letting us recover more of it to study.

During WWII Japan used balloons to drop ordinance on the US. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/when-japanese-balloons-threatened-american-skies-during-world-war-ii/ar-AA175aCF Back then, they figured out the way to deliver a package all the way to the US mainland without any electronics. Now, the Chinese have not only figured out a low(ish) tech way to do the same thing and by using a legal loophole in international law (60k ceiling), they can deliver a first strike, possibly another biological attack, say Covid 23, and we have shown we won't do anything until after it releases it's payload, thereby destroying evidence it ever happened, giving them plausible deniability.

I posted this elsewhere and got good feedback from others ordering these so figured I would post this here as well: ---------------------------------- I began looking for another handle for the blades the Havalon Piranta uses to keep a spare handy for when the blade loses its edge while field dressing. Not wishing to spend the same amount on one I took a chance on this one for $10.94. Yes, it's Chinese made, but I have to say, I like it. It's solid, and unlike the Havalon has some heft to it. It came with a different profile blade, like a 70A, which I prefer, but I don't think they are as sharp as the ones that come with the Havalon, but I bought it for the handle so that's ok, and I purchased 70A blades for the Piranta anyway. Swiss+Tech Folding Skinning Knife with Liner Lock While the body of the Piranta is plastic, this one is aluminum and textured to give it a little grip but an all plastic one is available too. The locking mechanism is identical, which works just about the same way of course. The belt clip is larger, but it doesn't get in the way or affect the grip IMO.

With all that is happening in DC, you damn well know they will do everything they can to move the spotlight anywhere else, and the MSM will happily oblige.

Oh IDK, I considered one when they first came out, not for SD or HD, but for a woods gun while hunting, first round a 410 to take care of Jake, and the 45 to dispatch a wounded deer if needed. But I only considered it for a fleeting moment, especially when I got my hands on one, my .40 could do the same with more rounds and a CCI shotshell as the one in the pipe.

Many productions require everyone who handles a weapon, right down to the actors, to verify the weapon is clear. If they had such a policy, and didn't follow those procedure, which is obvious he didn't, he is subject to liability as an actor as well.

The price of fame.

I wonder how long before they disbar him? https://www.newyorkcriminalattorneyblog.com/new-york-supreme-court-justice-deems-new-yorks-red-flag-laws-are-unconstitutional/

Meh, it's already been done.

https://www.wate.com/investigations/knoxville-woman-out-1000-after-safe-store-closes-abruptly/

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My Tacoma has a plug in the bed, it won't work unless the engine is running, 400 watts parked and 100 watt when moving. I use mine to run a chainsaw blade sharpener, and 4" grinder from Harbor Freight (better brands draw too much power) and once to run their pole saw, which you had to start it off slow or it would trip the circuit, but it was good enough to finish clearing branches away from the site I was having a carport erected on.