Punisher84

LMFAO Well up until a few days ago I was probably in danger of being strung up myself. I have some lawn nazis for neighbors. Neighborhood be manicured and **** yo.

Daelith I didn't know you rode. Good deal. I'm in a LE MC myself. Anyway I have no real plans. I'm hoping to relax and have fun, but I know it isn't going to happen.

Jamie I think you are actually the one who is blowing this way out of proportion or you're not reading my posts in their entirety.. That or you're not the person I thought you have always been from your posts. I'll say it as blunt as I can. If everything went belly up tomorrow and life as we all knew it ceased to exist I'd do what I had to do. If you sit in your house across the street and bear me no ill will I'll leave you be, but the second you become a threat I would put a bullet between your eyes and take everything you had to feed my family, load my guns, burn for fuel, etc. I wouldn't kill you just because you didn't mow your ****ing lawn.

The meek may not inherit the earth in the sense you speak of, but if the world is inhabited only by people who gave up their core beliefs and "soul", if you will, to stay alive in it then it's not something I would want to be a part of. Permit me to explain my view like this: If a soldier is forced to shoot a child/teenager who is pointing a gun at him, to stay alive I think we all agree that is a necessity. If a soldier kills a child because he may at some point go get a gun, well then you have some debate. There are things we'd rather not do, but may be forced to choose to do in order to survive. It is something else entirely to do what was brought up in this thread by one person. It may be apples and oranges to you, but to me it's a different thing entirely.

That was the point of my "The Road" comment. I think too many people view these threads as an excuse to role play some fantasy zombie scenario where they get to run around like Ving Rhames killing stuff and making witty remarks. Gear, training, planning, etc are all great, but you will NOT survive without the will to do what is necessary to stay alive. On that we agree, my point is certain statements that have been made seem to play into nothing more than that fantasy BS. I'll leave it be after this, but here's a nice exchange, albeit from a movie, but I think it holds true.

That's my point exactly. If you're idea of survival is "My neighbors might come for my food one day. I have to kill them all first." then I 1. Sure as **** don't want to be your neighbor. and 2. I don't want to be anywhere near you when you are eventually overrun by an angry mob.

One of the reasons I always tell people to read The Road who love all the end of the world/zombie BS is because of the realism and the bleakness. I have no desire to be in any situation like Katrina or worse, but should it happen I'm ready to do what is necessary. HOWEVER, what I say about my plans or my desire/ability to do certain things is for myself or a very private conversation, not on an internet forum. IMO this is a place for discussion of gear, storage, planning, etc not a place for BS bravado and open discussions of taking lives. I think mahahn showed poor judgement in his statements. Fighting my way to safety is different than "I don't like my neighbors so if I ever get the chance to kill them all I'll do it!"

Lol I've always been the opposite and I am absolutely miserable in the heat. Must be because I'm already so hot...

I'm gonna help you out buddy. Replace the YouTube tags with Video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU4KKXOxirk

If you look back at what I originally posted I think you'll agree you and I are on the same page. What mahahn was talking about was killing neighbors he DOESN'T LIKE during a BUG-IN situation. These are not the sort of things you say on an open forum. There is a difference between doing what you have to do to survive and seizing the opportunity to take out some neighbors you don't like during a disaster or something. You know as well as I do people are always looking for more ways to paint us as trigger happy murderers and spin what we say. I'd say to express certain views publically are not only in poor taste, but a violation of forum rules. Just my opinion on it.

Bad link Chuck.

I agree with you Jamie and I think what we are forced to do during the worst of times is one thing, but openly discussing murdering one's neighbors on a public forum, in a hypothetical or not, is in poor taste.

It's starting to get nice in the evenings. Can't wait for light jacket weather. This is my absolute happiest time of year. I love Fall and Halloween. I know it sounds weird, but everything just seems better to me. I love the look, the feel, and the smell of Fall.

Yup.

WIN.

I got a feeling mahahn isn't gonna be with us on TGO for long.

MOGADISHU ON THE MISSISSIPPI BROTHA!

RBC maybe you should read some case law and get back to us. There have been numerous self-defense cases where a victim has wounded/killed unarmed individuals after being attacked by a group. There is nothing in the law that states you can only be afraid if someone has a weapon. You don't think 2,3,4, or 5 individuals beating on someone would be cause to be in fear of great bodily injury or death? If you do then that's unfortunate for you, because the courts disagree with you.

You can use "reasonable force" to make a citizen's arrest, but I would probably just hold them at gun point and call/have someone call 911. There have been several cases here in TN where this has been done, now if they try to run I wouldn't go after them obviously. I break it down like this and I think most will agree and you'll be good in the law's eyes. If they disarm and surrender hold them at gunpoint until police arrive or if you do have the means to physically detain them do so, but use EXTREME CAUTION in doing so. If they run, let them go and be an excellent witness to the police.

I'll say it like this and I'll gladly take my couple day vacation or lumps for it... STREL WHY DON'T YOU SHUT THE **** UP AND QUIT TALKING OUT OF YOUR ASS?! We are all sick of you and your nonsensical, broken ass English posts. You've been around the forum long enough to know who can back up what they say. Joe doesn't need me to back him up, but the hell if I'm not going to anyway. Matter of fact Strel why don't you go join the service and see what Afghanistan is like? Be good for you to give back to the country that's given you so much, that you bitch about constantly. Sorry little ingrate. See you guys in a few days or one less post I guess.

I'm kinda curious as to the validity of that.

LMFAO well used to be anyway!

I posted that on my Facebook the other day. I wish they'd show it in every driver's ed class.

I fully believe it can happen here. My point is planning and being prepared are one thing, but survival is a mindset. It's not about tools or how much of what you have stored. If an earthquake hits I could lose all my food storage in a second. I'm simply saying that I intend to survive. I will do so by planning as best I can, being as well prepared as possible, and ready to do whatever is necessary. Internet bravado is one thing, but if it comes between my family and "the walking unfortunate" I will exact a violence on anyone that gets in my way beyond comprehension. Whatever is necessary to stay alive and protect my loved ones I'll do. Anytime you want to start splitting 500 or 1000 round orders let me know buddy. If we bug out to the woods without a The Road type scenario I'm fairly certain we can feed ourselves.

Nice collection of ammo drv2fst!