Hopping back in for a second, but yea that is true. I think my exact words were "BS" order and I was referring to illegal behavior mostly. It probably wasn't the best example in this case, but after talking to several people last night at work including police, firefighters, EMTs, etc I still maintain that A. They should have acted and B. The Fire Dept. should review it's policy. Most everyone I talked to agreed. I know that doesn't change any minds here and I'm certainly done trying because it's kind of a spinning wheel now. It's a high emotion thing and everyone has their views on it. I accept that.