Grayfox54

I used to work with a guy who was a germaphobe. He was so bad that if the soft drink rolled out of the machine and hit the floor, he'd throw it away. Yet his car was even worse than that. I'm talking weeks old food rappers, general trash and a major stink! He cleaned it out one day and completely filled a city issue household size garbage can. Bear in mind that this same guy wouldn't hardly touch anything at work without gloves on and raised a stink if anybody started a car without opening the shop doors first.

The .357 magnum was born out of a desire to get more power out of the .38 Special. In 1930 S&W introduced a cartridge called the .38-44 High Velocity. This was simply a .38 Special loaded to current .357 velocity. In 1935 S&W was concerned about heavy duty ammo being used in cheaply made guns. So they lengthened the cartridge case 1/10th of an inch so that it wouldn't seat fully in a .38 special chamber and the .357 Magnum was born. Other than being just a tad longer, All other dimensions are identical. Yes, .38 Special can easily be shot out of a .357 Magnum. However, the .357 is too long to work in a .38 Special. The .357 Magnum is the "Jack of all trades" in the handgun world. You can shoot anything from light . 38 Wadcutter target ammo to 180 gr full house magnum hunting loads. In the 1930s Daniel Wesson hunted everything in North America, including the big bears, with a .357 Magnum just to prove its effectiveness. For defensive use, the full magnum 125gr HP loadings have been rated the #1 man stopper for many years according to several studies. That's one of the reasons why a great many LE agencies went with the caliber back when revolvers were still king. When reloading, the same bullets work for both calibers. However, don't try to push hard cast lead bullets over about 1100 fps as it can cause serious leading. I don't recommend swaged lead bullets at all. My favorite powders for full power loads in the .357 are W296, H110 and 2400. My own pet load for the .357 is a hard cast 158gr LSWC over 6.0 grs of W231. This is a mid-range load that I've chronographed at 1100fps. Wonderfully accurate in all my guns, doesn't lead the bore and is pleasant to shoot.

Howdy. feel free to ask all the questions you want. We love to share our particular brand of BS.

If you think the standard carbine is fun, you oughta try this. Its a hoot! I actually once shot a 3 gun match with it. The other guys just looked and shook their heads. But I didn't do half bad. i even out scored some guys with decked out ARs.

Yeah, I know, everybody hates it. But I thought I'd show my 21st Century updated carbine one more time just for S&G. Don't worry. The other one is just like Uncle Sam issued them.

Back when everybody was buying carbines cheap, I was buying NIW USGI mags for about $5 each. But now, just like the rifles, the supply has dried up and prices are getting ridiculous.

It'll be interesting to see how they price the mags. $50 each? I've seen them asking that on other web sites.

Decided I'll pass. Not worth the trip and there's really nothing I'm looking for right now.

Back to the Carbines: The plot thickens. Saw this posted over at Sig-Talk. Apparently it was an e-mail sent to one of the new purchasers. Dear Customer, Thank you and congratulations on your M1 Carbine purchase! Response to these guns was overwhelming and we are still hard at work getting them processed and out the door. We know you’re excited to get your new gun and we appreciate your patience. When your M1 Carbine arrives, we are confident you’re going to be pleased with your purchase. We’d love to see these guns in the hands of our happy Customers, so if you share a photo of your carbine on social media, please be sure to tag us! WE HAVE MORE GREAT NEWS! We have military surplus M1 Carbine Magazines produced during WWII between 1942 and 1945. These magazines were manufactured by one of 17 different companies which can be identified by markings on the rear of the magazine. WWII production magazines do not come available often and we have a VERY LIMITED SUPPLY. Because we have such a limited supply, we are initially only notifying Customers who bought an M1 Carbine so you have the first opportunity to purchase. WE ALSO HAVE a very limited supply of M1 Carbine Ammunition! The magazines and ammunition will be turned on for sale Tuesday, June 15, at 8:00 AM Central Daylight time. Please note we have very limited supplies of each of these products, quantity limits will apply, and they will sell fast! Below are the product numbers we will turn on Tuesday, June 15. For your best opportunity to purchase, please be ready to order at 8:00AM CDT. Magazines: 333327 - Military Surplus Magazine M1 Carbine 30 Carbine 15-Round New Old Stock Steel 607887 - Military Surplus Magazine M1 Carbine 30 Carbine 15-Round Grade 1 Steel 191953 - Military Surplus Magazine M1 Carbine 30 Carbine 15-Round Grade 2 Steel 409493 - Military Surplus Magazine M1 Carbine 30 Carbine 15-Round Grade 3 Steel Damn! I used to like Midway. Now they pull this crap! Especially after telling me in an e-mail that they had no G.I. surplus mags.

Denmark also had a lot of lend/lease U.S. Garands. Odds are the bolt was just swapped out during maintenance. My CMP Garand is a Danish return.

Hmmm......... Its a 6 hour round trip for me. But I haven't been to a show in a very long time. Also there's a Murfreesboro member here who has a gun for sale that I'm very interested in. Lemme ponder on this for a while.

Here ya go! Sometimes my curiosity gets the best of me.

I did a little research. There's not much out there but apparently Beretta made a bunch of M1 Garands under contract for Denmark. I think this was during WW II, but I can't seem to pin down the exact dates. Not much seems to be known. Oh yeah! I definitely want to see pictures of this!

I'd like to see pictures of that.

They're really pushing vaccination now. A lot of folks still haven't had it, but they've got tons of vaccine that'll soon be out of date. They want it in arms before it goes bad.

Me too! Post lots of pics and give a range report. Somebody on another forum said that Midway had 1300 rifles. IDK, somehow I just imagined the number as being much bigger. If this is true, I don't expect the impact on mags, accessories, etc to be as big as I thought it would. I also expect that many of these buyers already own a carbine or two and don't need much for them. But just to be on the safe side, I have already ordered a couple of spring kits and a couple other small things for my two rifles. As they say, better to have and not need.........

Welcome neighbor! I'm not far from you at all. I could go for that. But don't look to me to set it up. I'm about as unorganized as they come.

I smell a troll.

A month ago the price for a decent USGI M1 Carbine was about $1000. Yesterday it was $1200-1400. Tomorrow the Midway rifles go on sale and who knows what the "going" rate will be after that. The age of cheap Mil-Surps is gone. Never to return. If you want one, now is the time regardless of price.

I checked my Carbine mags. I have plenty of good USGI mags in both 15 and 30 rounds for my needs. But I also have two new in the package / never been used aftermarket 20 rounders. If things get as wild as I expect, I just might let these two go.

I was curious about selling these rifles without magazines. So I asked Midway. Here's their response: "Thank you for your email. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you. Unfortunately due to the M1 carbines not arriving to us with magazines in them, we will not be selling them with magazines. We will however offer several aftermarket magazines on our website that should be compatible." So it has nothing to do with restrictive states or just screwing the customers. Midway just don't have the mags. That's gonna make things very interesting.

I e-mailed Midway and asked if any have the flip rear sight. They said the guns only come as pictured. All the pics have the later adjustable sights. So I guess I'm out. I'm waiting eagerly for somebody to get one and report on it. I do want to know exactly what condition these things are in.

Even in today's market, these price are several hundred too high. Generally, the current pricing for a decent M1 Carbine is right around $1000. However, I bet they sell every last one of 'em. Notice that these rifles are sold without magazines and don't appear to have slings or accessories. As a carbine owner already, I have noticed that over the last few years that supplies of mags and accessories have been drying up and getting more expensive. Where surplus GI mags once could be easily found new in wrap for $4.99, now in some places they're up to $30-40. If they can be found at all. And on top of that there is the current ammo situation. I fear that Midway suddenly dropping thousands of carbines on the market will only make make prices on ammo and accessories skyrocket. I would kinda like to have an early rifle with the flip rear sight and no bayonet lug. But I'm gonna wait until they actually go on sale to see exactly what they have and pricing.

Yup. Sounds about right.