Grayfox54

I had a chance to look at and handle on of the early R51s. Nope, not for me. Just didn't like the way it felt in my hand. But even if Remington has all the bugs worked out and the gun is now perfect, I fear the damage has already been done. I doubt they will sell well.

Its all just the luck of the draw. I've been called twice, The case got dismissed the first time. The second time I didn't get seated. Jury Duty can be a real PITA and many people try to get out of it. But, if called again, I will go as I see it as a civic duty.

Pain103: You'd be amazed at the amount of State and Federal Grant money available. Not just to Police Departments, but all sorts of local government agencies. Fire, Public Works, Water, etc. Our small PD owns four Honda ATVs that very rarely get used and often just sit until the batteries die. Why do they have them? Because they got grant money to buy them. No other reason. Likewise, our Fire Dept has a ton of fancy rescue equipment that is hardly used, including a custom built ATV Ambulance. All bought on Uncle Sam's dime. Our PD had a Captain who's sole job was to seek out and do the paperwork to apply for these grants. He messed up and missed the deadline for a big one. The result was a huge ruckus that ended with him being told to retire. The money is out there. If your city and its agencies don't take advantage of these grants, that's their loss.

I've previously mentioned than I was a mechanic for my city until I retired.I can only speak from my own experience. Our Patrol Cars were serviced regularly and very well maintained. Sure, some of them have high mileage, but most still have a lot of life left in them. What most people don't know is that Police Departments get State and Federal money to help purchase vehicles. If they don't use it, they don't get it. .Also Police Departments buy vehicles on the State Bid system for thousands less than the general public. More commonly, old cars aren't sold because they're worn out, but rather to make way for new cars. Truth is that most PDs have more cars than they know what to do with. I've seen some very low mileage and hardly used cars sold just because new ones were already ordered. That's not to say they're all perfect. Because sometimes cars that need expensive repairs are sidelined and sold until new cars are purchased to save repair costs. So check them over carefully. However, former PD Crown Vics and Chevys can be excellent bargains providing many years of trouble free service. Now the Dodge Chargers are a whole different critter. Frankly, these cars are junk and totally unsuitable for Police work. They can't take the hard use and if you see one of these for sale, you can bet its plumb worn out junk.

They make it sound like they're doing us a big favor. But I think in reality, they're just expanding their customer base so they can make more money. Anytime .gov does something that looks like it benefits vets, look for the real reason.

Some people swear by the .40. I just swear at it.

Pretty girl with a nice gun promoting the 2nd. I don't see a problem here.

Jenny, I give you extra points for originality. That's a new one on me. And this is from a guy who's launched more springs than NASA.

Aw hell. Guess I shoulda gone back and reviewed the whole thread before posting that one. I didn't remember seeing it here before. But then, I have trouble remembering breakfast.

I'm currently puppysitting for my oldest son while he's in the process of moving. She's a 6 month old dobie mix rescue. Definitely got the doberman body and common black/tan markings. But the head shape and ears are wrong. What the rest of her is, we ain't got a clue. Although I think there may be a bit of some kind of a retriever in her as she just loves water. She likes to play in the rain and if there's a puddle anywhere around, she'll head straight for it. Also, fetch is her favorite game. But I gotta tell ya, she's wearing this old man out. At this age she's all run, jump, teeth, claws and way too much energy. She craves constant attention and is always under foot. Gotta watch her like a hawk because she's in that puppy "chew on everything" stage. Especially Me! . I know she's just playing and doesn't mean any harm, but my hands and arms look like I've been rasslin' a chainsaw. I love her, but just like a kid, she a steady source of both satisfaction and aggravation.

I believe the point was to infect people with diseases that have a cure. A last resort temporary measure to get to safety with the cure administered before the disease progresses far enough to endanger the person. At least that was the way I took it. The movie wasn't too bad, but the book was sooooo much better.

The .357 is the jack of all trades as far as handguns are concerned. It can be loaded with anything from light .38 wadcutters up to serious big boomers. There is simply no task a handgun could be asked to do that a suitably loaded .357 can't handle. Some of the finest revolvers ever made have been chambered in this "do-it-all" caliber. The S&W Model 27 is and always has been the flagship of the company's line. Even the much vaunted .44 Magnums were never built to the quality and standards of the Model 27. Every serious gun owner should have at least one .357 and I have quite a few. But after having said all that, the truth of the matter is than the vast majority of my shooting .357 caliber guns is done with .38 specials. I've reached the age and stage in my shooting life that loud noise and power just for the sake of it is more of a bother than a thrill. But its comforting to know that if I need that power, its there.

CMP is definitely the way to go. Check the web site first. Not only to make sure your paperwork is in order, but to be sure they're open. The Anniston CMP South store is scheduled to move in the near future. When that happens they will be closed for a while. Meanwhile, they've got some good close-out deals for walk in customers.

Seeing as I don't speak leagalize worth a damn, now I completely confused. Can somebody please explain in plain English just what his new laws says? Exactly what's the property/business owner is liable for if they do or don't post the No Guns signs? If they post and something happens they are liable? If they don't post and something happens they aren't liable? I get a headache just trying to figure this stuff out.

Those of you who went to the Germantown gun show last weekend were probably just as surprised as I was to see the new signs at the door. Instead of the usual "No Loaded Guns Or Magazines" signs we're all used to, we saw this: CONCEALED CARRY ALLOWED WITH VALID PERMIT. NO BRANDISHING OF FIREARMS. Being the curious type, I e-mailed R.K Shows and asked why the change. I got a response this morning. "Legally there was some laws that changed in TN enacting the change of policy for concealed carry permit holders" So it seems that this policy change is the result of the new law which recently took effect here in Tennessee where business owners who post No Guns signs become liable for the safety of their customers. My first thought was "Ain't this cool! Now I don't have to bother with unloading and having my carry gun tied". Who among us hasn't commented at one time or another on the irony of going to a gun show but not being trusted to carry our properly licensed and loaded EDC? But on reflection, now I'm not so sure if this is a good thing. We all know that there are a lot of people out there carrying guns with very little training and some have even less common sense. We also know that some folks are at the gun show to find things like holsters, magazines and accessories for their carry gun. Then there are those who just wanna show friends they happen to meet there what they're carrying. Now consider that gun shows can often become very crowded. People can be shoulder to shoulder and bumping into each other. I'm just not sure if I'm comfortable with a bunch of total strangers handling loaded guns under those conditions. What do you think?

I'm gettin' on in years and readily admit to being opinionated as hell. I like metal guns with exposed hammers and proven designs. As such, I go with 1911s and S&W revolvers. My most carried guns are a pre-70 Colt Commander in .45acp and a 3" S&W Model 13 in .357. In revolvers I prefer the K- frames for carry. But I do have a Model 36 that I occasionally grab for quick trips when I'm too lazy to strap on a real gun. I absolutely detest plastic guns. Glucks in particular as they just don't feel right and are butt ugly to boot. However, I do own one piece of plastic and it has a specific purpose. Its a Colt Mustang XSP that I usually carry on my daily walks. With the poly frame and stainless slide, its about as sweat proof as you can get. Besides, its just a baby 1911.

I've taught several women to shoot and everyone of them liked the size and weight of a J-frame .38 UNTIL they shot it. Not one of them wanted anything to do with a J-frame .38 after that. When my late wife's arthritis got to the point where she could no longer handle the recoil of her Detective Special, she found a nice 2" S&W Model 30 in .32 S&W Long and fell in love with it. This J-frame is small and easy to carry while the .32 long has very little recoil and is much better than a .22. Loaded with the Mag-Tech hollow points, this make an acceptable self defense gun.

His first handgun should be something personal that will last a lifetime and have special meaning to him. Open your safe and let him pick one of yours.

You signed on of your own free will and knowing the terms. They kept their end, you keep your's. Speaking only for myself, I have no use for a man who doesn't fulfill his commitments or honor his word.

That is exactly what I'm afraid of. I got a real bad feeling about this. I fear its gonna make the Dems in '68 look like a walk in the park.

I'm all for exercising one's legal and constitutional rights. But they must be tempered with some common sense. While it is legal, there's no way that I would go anywhere near that convention with a firearm. In fact, I wouldn't go near the place period. While the Republicans see this as their big show, The democrats, liberals, leftist, antis and everybody else with a grudge sees this as an opportunity to stir up trouble. So a bunch of well intention-ed gun owners show up open carrying as a demonstration of supporting their rights. The troublemakers are going to target them right off. They will attempt to provoke a confrontation and IF that happens, even if no firearms come into play, who do you think the liberal media will blame? If cool heads and common sense prevail, this could be gun owner"s finest hour. But the potential for disaster is far too great to take chances with. I, for one, pray that the people of Cleveland show the courage and restraint to just not give them the opportunity.

Unfortunately, there are people who will believe this.

I think its already too late. Even if Remington has all the bugs worked out and the pistol totally perfect, I seriously doubt it will ever overcome its dreadful start. Remington is making good on the ones they have already sold, but I do wonder if they'll even try to market new ones? When the R51 first came out, I was somewhat interested due to my liking of the original Model 51 .380. However, when I ran across a R51, as soon as I held it in my hand I was like Aw Hell No! The R51 design just plain sucks.