Grayfox54

They did get good pictures of the bad guy's faces. I have no doubt they will be caught fairly quick. But those guns are probably long gone and will likely only be found one at a time as they show up in crimes.

These rifles are intended for close in work. I put an EOTech 512 on mine.

It doesn't. I said I already have several and don't need it. But I also said I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

Heck, $200 ain't much money these days. If you decide you don't like it, you can always resell and probably at a small profit. If I was at your end of the state and it checked out mechanically, I snatch it up in a heartbeat just because of the price. Then I'd refinish it just for a fun project. And I already own several and have absolutely no need for it.

Its definitely a S&W Military and Police (M&P) Pre-Model 10. Its a 5 screw model and has the round front sight which was changed to a ramp in 1952. From the hammer shape, I'm guessing late 1940s - early 50s. Need a serial number to get any closer. If the bore and timing are good, $200 is a good price. I'd buy it. This one is just one of many, many shooter grade guns out there. Refinishing this gun won't hurt it any. In this case it would probably add to the value. S&W has made millions of M&Ps over the last 100+ years. True collector guns have to be in mint condition to attract any interest. BTW: I've had excellent results with Blue Wonder. Follow the instructions and you can get a really nice finish.

SonnyCrockett: Most of these guns have been through the arsenals at least once and the vast majority will be mix-masters. These are standard issue pistols. If any all original guns are found, they will no doubt go to auction for a whole lot more money. Besides, it appears that there will be enough applications to fill out sales for years to come. If you're even considering getting one, now is the time to put in your paperwork. If you don't like what is offered, you can always say no.

Just another copy of the Colt Mustang. I have two Mustangs and prefer the original Colts to either the Sig or Kimber copies. Plus the Colt is usually a bit cheaper. But all three are great guns.

Well this is interesting. I didn't know about the trans thing. But I was wondering why this story suddenly fell out of the news. I guess the liberal media decided they would rather protect gays than put the usual gun control spin on this shooting.

Considering that they're talking about "security issues", my guess is that some bored kid on the staff got to poking around in their computers (without realizing that it is NASA and tied to who knows how many other .gov agencies) and clicked on the wrong thing setting off all kinds of alarms. Or for that matter, if you wanted to try to sneak into the government system from what you thought was a inconspicuous place, this could be it. Makes as much sense as any other theory.

I have a Mark III very similar to yours. In my opinion, the BHP is the the best 9mm ever made. You're gonna love it!

Aside from the fact that the guns are historic, bear in mind that this sale itself is a historic event. This is the first time in over 50 years that the government has released 1911s for sale to the public. There are a lot of congress critters in Washington who are really pissed that this is happening. In fact, they would like to do away with the CMP all together. Its because of them that there are hoops to jump through and yearly allotments. At the current rate, there are enough pistols to keep sales going for 10 years or more. However, bear in mind that this could all change with the next election. Get 'em while you can.

I've had to deal with a couple of alcoholics in my life. The best intentions in the world won't help. You have to make yourself stand back and let them fall. They can only be saved when they are ready. As a young man, I was headed in that direction. Not quite there, but I was at the stage where one drink, more often than not, led to one too many. Luckily, fate stepped in and I've now been dry for close to 40 years.

I'm just curious if anybody else has sent in an application packet to buy a CMP 1911? I had originally thought that I'd let this year pass and wait to see the guns people actually got. However, I now find that those names who don't make the cut this year will be rolled over to next year in the same order they were picked. Presumably, this will continue for following years. Simply put, if you're number 8001 this year, you'll be number 1 next year. I'm thinking that CMP will get more than enough applications to fill orders for at least the next several years. So its best to get on the list now. My packet went out in today's mail. Anybody else?

A couple of years ago I acquired a used gun with some sort of black plastic aftermarket grips on it. The first time I cleaned it I noticed a small white spot on the grips. Cleaned a little harder and the spot got bigger. I soon realized that the grips we actually white in color and had been spray painted black. Good old Hoppe's was taking the paint right off and they ended up looking like crap. I did consider repainting them. I figured the Fusion brand would probably be the best shot as its made specifically for plastics. But instead I just bought some nice wood grips for the gun. Whatever you try, make sure its chemical resistant. Otherwise, they may end up like mine did.

I learned quite a few lessons back in 2003 when "Hurricane Elvis" hit. I was one of the lucky ones and my power was only out for about 5 days. I had the gear and basically just set up camp inside the house. It was awkward for a while, but I got through it fairly comfortably with just what I already had on hand. What surprised me was that most of my neighbors didn't have so much as a old fashioned mechanical can opener and had no choice but to bug out to wherever thy could find someone with power to take them in. Some even ended up staying in expensive hotels well outside the damage zone and eating out for every meal. That cost them a bunch of money. Further, at that time I was still a city employee and we were running on the disaster plan 12-16 hours a day trying to deal with the mess. I vowed right then that I'd never get caught off guard again.

I'd like to know what ya got for sale. Unfortunately, I'm plumb at the other end of the state.

The Memphis Agri-Center tried that required background check for RK Shows about a year or so ago. It might have lasted one show, but as near as I can tell, nobody is pushing it and nobody is enforcing it.

UGH! Roadblocks! I hate those! Teaching kids to stand on corners to beg for money instead of working to achieve their goals. Of course for some it may be good training for their future.

Damn! What a shame. I loved his work.

Soccer? meh.....

Good grief! What happened here? My old thread got dredged back up and folks are fussin' at each other? For the record: the gun I was talking about turned out to not be the one I'm looking for. So I passed anyway, regardless of the shipping question. Chill out folks.

I got to shoot a Commander sized model about 15 years ago. The grip is longer front to back to accomadate the longer .357 cartridge. Takes a little getting used too, but wasn't bad. The gun shot well and ran like a champ. I seem to recall that it was limited to 125gr jacketed bullets. I can't remember why?

Back around 2001 I was at a shoot and the property owner had an old out of date vest. We wrapped it around an upright post and commenced to shooting it with whatever we had. It stopped all the handgun rounds, but rifle bullets zipped right through. I shot it with one of my heavy 300gr .45 Colt loads. It stopped the bullet, but buried the fabric 1 1/2" into the post.

Thanks bersaguy. I knew it was right about then, but couldn't remember the exact date.

Wild Cherry was pretty much a one hit wonder. But it was a great one. I think everybody was singing that song.