E4 No More

I haven't practiced in over two decades, and I don't want to. I know that there's a lot of confusing information put out there by both sides that's complicated by politicization thanks mostly to the left during Trump's last year in office. There are valid reasons for not getting the vaccine, and I wouldn't suggest otherwise. What annoys me is people posting information on this forum who's source is a so-called expert citing anecdotal cases as if they are derived by the scientific method. In the case of treating humans, the gold standard of the scientific method is the double-blind study. That means neither the administering party nor the recipient know whether they are getting a placebo or the real drug. Those studies take time, and unfortunately, the virus (the D variant), proves VERY contagious and seems to be killing younger people who aren't vaccinated because this was a disease killing old or disabled people. Unfortunately, anecdotal news reports of people falsely reporting COVID infections really invalidates CDC's mortality numbers. Any good physician weighs the risk versus the reward with EVERY patient before acting. Example: my disabled daughter did not get the vaccine because her neurologist did not know how it would affect her condition. Luckily, she survived her encounter with the D variant after a considerable stay in the hospital, but what if she hadn't? Not knowing the true mortality numbers complicates that decision. What we DO know is that the FDA has NEVER had a pool of vaccinated people this large with which to pull data. I would wager that the medicine cabinets of the people posting bull information on this forum are full of drugs who have had less of a test pool than the COVID vaccinations. The smaller test pools of the FDA explains why you get drugs that have been on the market for decades but then get pulled because serious issues come up. One example is Zantac. It's true that we do not have any long-term studies of these vaccines, but they were derived by proven scientific methods. My heart hurts for Phil Valentine and his family because he made a bad risk assessment when he decided not to take the vaccine. I don't want people on this forum doing the same damned thing because they were listening to some alleged expert spewing anecdotal information to the world to see how many people they can fool.

You forgot to mention those that are either too lazy or too busy to keep up with current research.

I'm tired of the rain. My yard's going to be a foot tall by the time it drys out. We're supposed to get a lot tonight into tomorrow. I'm considering looking into the cost of Gopher wood to start my ark.

At least she's not a hypocrite. Let's just hope neither of you go the way of Phil Valentine.

I am a physician, so....

How old is she compared to you?

Then time for him to retire.

Time for a more educated doctor.

Yep, maintenance meds is all that I use them for now. A couple of years ago, I went to the urgent care for pain in my left leg and a stomach virus. Turns out I had phlebitis and said stomach virus, but the doctors coming into my room couldn't keep straight why I was there. They also claimed that I tested positive for a highly contagious disease that they diagnose with a stool sample. Some friends came to visit me and they were gowned up from head to toe, and I asked them why. That's when they told me about the disease. I called the staff in to ask about it, and they confirmed that my stool sample came back positive. You should have seen the look on their faces when I told them that I did NOT have a stool sample taken to render such a diagnosis. My wife told me that I was never to come back to the hospital ever again.

One of their older doctors in the urgent care missed the fact that I had a large pulmonary embolism that nearly killed me by the time I went to the civilian ER where they diagnosed it pretty quickly.

Dude! That's your "evidence'?? LOL! This is so subjective it's incredible. Loosen the tin foil.

That's so true with the exception on my primary care doctor at the VA. I trust him but it's the others that I do not trust.

My wife of almost 42 years and myself - along with my training.

You are wrong. The science has been there for quite some time. It's just being used for the vaccine - except the J&J which is older and less effective..

See my post above. Overall, I haven't seen anyone say that they trusted Fauci - at least not within the past several months after his conduct and connections have come under scrutiny. Personally, I do not put much stock in ANY government bureaucrat.

They are calling for them for folks >65-years sold. It was a unanimous vote too.

I think you are wrong because you'd think that if you are indeed correct then one would find him citing CNN repeatedly rather than just once in a thread that he started titled, "Supreme Court to discuss case that could expand Second Amendment rights" and simply linking an article for comments. That was in 4 pages of his posting history. Not exactly the behavior of one who puts a lot of stock in CNN. In fact, most of his citations are of independent sources.

Name one person here who trust either Fauci or CNN.

I don't see any rainbow flags on here.

I could list an alphabet soup behind my name too. Big deal. The gold standard for scientific research in health is the double-blind study. It's the only one that matters.

I'm most likely better trained than you in science, and most of the other idiots that you are listening to are claiming to preach science too. Like I said, the best lies are laced with truth.

I've posted many comments on the subject of the vaccine in TGO threads. Feel free to search for them and take away from them that what you will. My comments are based in science as I was trained. I'm tired of arguing with people who are posting either pseudo-science or complete bull that allegedly comes from reliable sources. It's like some people are completely oblivious to the fact that there are many people on the Internet that get a kick out of getting gullible people to fall for whatever bull they post. Remember, the best lies are laced with truth so that suckers will believe the lie.

Graduate level education in healthcare.

Name one and supply real proof.

Step away from the Qanon feeds.