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The other side of the MOAB story...and one the Pentagon is very much hoping the cool bomb hoopla distracts you from is that fact that Afghanistan is falling to the enemy and fast. ISIS (or ISIS-K as they're called there apparently) being responsible for the death of a USSF Soldier is pretty disturbing by itself, but the Taliban is holding land in key regions of the country again. That Afghan Army and government we sacrificed time, lives, resources, and money to establish isn't up to the task, and after 15 1/2 years we've got very little to show for our efforts in the country. Everything after routing Al Qaeda in '01 & '02 was pretty much a waste, and shows again, that we're pretty good at the war part, but the occupying part isn't our forte because we lack the generational commitment. But please, continue to raise the table 6" because we dropped a big bomb and ignore the disaster that is our war in Afghanistan.

To piggyback on this great point, the MOAB is only deliverable by MC-130. That all but guarantees that it will never be used in any kind of contested airspace. While it's a very cool explosion, and a statement that we mean business...it's big boom nature and delivery means limit the ways we can use it. It fits a niche role, but that's about it.

I think this is just another example of how government is on-call to enforce edicts from business interests. Unless it's a health or safety issue, officers should not be willing to enforce on behalf of the airlines. United had a problem that was 100% business created, and therefore should have been 100% business solved. Forcing a booked, ticketed, checked, and seated passenger off a plane should never be a police function because there is no public danger in play.

Bersaguy PM'd me with a potential match for these. If that falls through for any reason I'll post accordingly. But I think they'll be in good hands with Bersa helping to get them where they need to be. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Bumping this up. Please feel free to share with those you know who might be able to get the word out. Thanks.

Karma has been quite good to me lately, so I'm just looking to pass some down the chain. I'll be moving into a new apartment in a few weeks, and it already comes with a washer & dryer. So, instead of putting what I have no into storage, I figure I would bequeath it to an individual or family that can get some use from it. They're not the latest models, about 10yrs old in fact, but they still work just fine and I've never had a problem. Instead of them just sitting in a garage for years on end, I'd like these to go to someone who would actually need it...a family just starting out on their own, someone who can't afford one and has to go to a laundromat despite hookups in their place, something like that. If you know of anyone who would fit the bill, or can find someone through your social circles, church group, or other networks, please let me know. I'll be ready to come off them in two weeks, and would ask that someone come to Murfreesboro that weekend to pick them up. Please reply or PM with any takers. Thanks for reading.

I could use a new hat and a TGO polo is one of the few things missing from my closet. How much is the setup cost? I'd be willing to join a pool of interested members to help defray those costs.

This I concur with 100%. It's in the interest of society to have a vetted and armed segment out there for purposes that are axiomatic. The state should support that by not making us pony up a fee for willing to be that needed group.

Not sure I understand the question. Are you robbing the joint? It's also worth noting that laws are equal parts mechanisms to deter crime and punish it after the occurrence. No law will ensure 100% on either end, humanity has proven that as far back as history goes.

The counter argument (not from me mind you) would be that the background check is meant to determine legality at the moment of purchase. I think the 4-5 yr system of permit renewal is good enough...but in a system where we regress to the mean "for the children" it's probably a different story. Even an annual check would work if the system automated it and only sent it up the chain if a red flag popped up. Watson or something else should be able to handle that if needs be.

What makes them redundant in your cases?

Too many replies to do the quote thing tonight as I miserate after dental work... I think background checks need work. They're not perfect, nowhere near, but I'd rather have them in place than not have them. If there was a bill for universal background checks, I'd be neutral on it. As mentioned, I'd support it if it came with trade-offs for items we'd like to see. I think that once you pass a background check, there should be no limits on what you can carry, and where. Proving myself as a law abiding citizen makes me a member of the "militia" as we have it today But to deny that they've kept unqualified people from getting guns is disingenuous I think. Something like 1.5 million background checks have denied a gun purchase since the Brady Bill came into effect, and even taking out the administrative errors, that's a lot of people that shouldn't have had a gun that didn't get one, not to mention the ones that it deterred from even trying. I say keep it and improve it...but this is D vs. R, so it's just another item to fight over instead of using for good effect. I get that's nowhere near where most of you think...but I'm pretty sure I'm much closer to the median of society on the issue. The 10% of gun owners being "gun guys/gals" estimate @Erik88 made seems fair, so keep that in mind on issues like these that hit the general public for consumption.

You have some actual data points in it to rebuff, or do you just not like the results? Don't let the echo chamber here fool you, in the non-TGO world, universal background checks are a popular idea. There's just no kind of index on how many people consider it a top issue they'll base their vote on, whereas gun owners of the mold here will come out against it with rigor.

He's not wrong about how easy it is to buy a gun using his example. He also had a pretty creative outlet to display it. While I wouldn't root for, or push for universal background checks alone...I also have a hard time arguing against them in principal. If I was making the deal for it, I'd get some wanted trade-offs at the state level like campus carry and carry inside state and local govt buildings with a permit. My only real complaint is that he seems to be hawking an AK with a bunch of cheap add ons. The MTSU poll is actually a full fledged public polling effort. It's not just MTSU students or alumni. The Political Science Department doesn't run it, the Journalism Department does.

I think 9mm reaches 180+ sometime after the slide locks back on a .45 since the 9mm isn't done at that point.

So, that legislation I mentioned a few posts back is clear of Congress, and on it's way to the White House for the President's signature or veto. We'll see if he's still wanting to drain the swamp, or sign a bill to help out those poor, beaten down, cable companies and ISP's.

^^^This^^^ I couldn't fathom buying a government surplus HMMWV without having my old battalion maintenance section to go along with it.

It's only official with "Period" at the end if Sean Spicer/Melissa McCarthy says it. As to the debate, you can debate pros/cons of penis size...I mean caliber...all you want. Shot placement is the beginning and end of the conversation. People don't focus on that issue, and I don't mean in a slow rate, no adrenaline rush, controlled fire safety of your lane on the range kind of way. You can have the golden gun from James Bond, but if you aren't ready to put rounds where they need to go, it won't matter much what you're firing.

My condolences on the loss, to you as well as his family.

Oh, fantastic. The one argument that can get more heated than "Trump: Greatest President Ever, or Jabroni?"

I think "developing the situation" is warranted to try and ascertain the info. I still default to a citizen on their property, with their legally owned weapon isn't a threat in and of itself. I think we're getting too comfortable with officers inferring a threat before one is demonstrated. Armed citizens being treated as a default threat where opening fire is justifiable isn't where I want things to be. Not assessing blame on the individual officers in this situation, but bringing up my usual questions about the system and rules they are using in these situations.

I dunno...I can't fault her for wanting to stay away from Washington, or her husband. I remember her saying she wasn't thrilled when he decided to run in the first place, so this could just be her way of coping. The cost of securing Trump Tower full time would still be a decent bit, though not nearly as much if Melania wasn't there in residence. How this is being a burden on the city is something I'd like to know. If I were NYC, I'd tell the Secret Service to take 100% of the security and have the officers back in the precinct. That has to be biting the NYPD budget and officer scheduling pretty hard to support the effort. One semi-gag column I read opined that NYC should use eminent domain (oh, the irony) to seize Trump Tower under the pretext of it being a public nuisance due to how much it's costing the city and how it's turned that part of 5th Ave into a traffic jam since Trump was elected President.

I know this incident was a confluence of unfortunate events...but my mind says a man on his property with his weapon isn't a threat until hostile intent is demonstrated. Not assumed, demonstrated.

Dayum...that's speedy customer service! My pleasure. As much you and I butt heads politically, supporting this site is one thing we are in lockstep agreement on. I actually do annual renewals on the premise that after my renewal in 2018, I'll be past 4yrs, and any renewal after that will kick more to the site than a lifetime membership would have otherwise netted it going forward. So, in other words, you're stuck with me.

Gah, disregard. Found it under Store> Manage Purchases. This is either different since an upgrade, or doing it only once a year doesn't make me remember the process.