Steelharp

Allow me to give you my address...

Tough day?

No, you're not, don't ever think that. As far as the validity issue, I can do no more than say that's an e-mail I received from said group.

Good question. Look here, at post #8: http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/handgun-carry-self-defense/65059-cspan-showing-hr822-debate-right-now.html

http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/handgun-carry-self-defense/65059-cspan-showing-hr822-debate-right-now.html Please read post #8.

Here is the text of an e-mail I received from the "National Assoc for Gun Rights." I am truly confused; good or bad? : ------------------ Michael, I was right to be concerned. Not only was H.R. 822 -- the Trojan horse gun control bill -- passed out of the House of Representatives this evening, it was passed with an amendment that would open the door to federal biometric requirements for concealed firearms permits and a federally-administered database of all permit holders. Only 7 Republican Members of Congress stood against federal overreach in the concealed carry process by opposing this bill (you can see how your Representative voted here: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll852.xml). The bill was amended this afternoon by ostensibly “pro-gun” Republicans to require a study be done on the ability of law enforcement officers to verify the validity of out-of-state concealed firearm permits. You and I both know what this means. A year from now, the study will come back stating that the only way to “verify” out-of-state permits is through federally-mandated biometric requirements for concealed firearm permits and Congress “must” create a nationally administered database of all concealed weapon permit holders. One of my biggest concerns about this bill -- the lists of gun owners a permit process creates -- should send shivers down your spine: Imagine Eric Holder and the BATFE with a national database of concealed carry permit holders. It’s bad enough to have those lists exist at a state level. Once Eric Holder and his cronies find a way to request that list from a state, they’ll do it -- all the in the name of “implementing H.R. 822.” The legislation now moves to the Harry Reid-run Senate, where companion legislation is expected to be introduced in the coming days. I have no doubt that the anti-gunners in the Senate will use this as an opportunity to make H.R. 822 even worse. What troubles me most about this battle is the institutional gun lobby has been leading the charge for this legislation. In fact, they’ve been brow-beating Members of Congress who dare to question the consequences of passing such a broad, overreaching piece of legislation. Republican Congressman Justin Amash (MI-03) fought back against the institutional gun lobby for its support of H.R. 822: "It's remarkably bold of the National Rifle Association to send out false and misleading messages regarding H R 822, an unconstitutional bill that improperly applies the Commerce Clause to concealed carry licensing. I would support legislation that gets the federal government out of the way of states that want to recognize other states' concealed carry permits. In contrast, H R 822 will hurt gun rights by conceding broad new authority to the federal government to override state sovereignty. Gun rights advocates have fought hard to prevent liberal abuse of the Commerce Clause that would restrict gun rights... I am disappointed that the NRA has decided to put its own interests ahead of the interests of gun owners. Fortunately, many other gun rights groups rightly oppose H R 822." Please call your Senator at (202) 224-3121 and tell them you want to keep the government’s hands off your permit and that you oppose federal intrusion into the concealed weapons permit process. Thank you for taking action to keep the federal government out of the concealed firearms permit system. For Freedom, Dudley Brown Executive Director

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Here's what more I've gathered. He and a friend had decided to walk from Gallatin to Hend'ville earlier in the day. (They live in Gallatin.) Then, well, they had to walk back. After they had got in to Gallatin, it was after midnight. The buddy had ID, but this boy did not. He's not sure if it was HPD that talked to them or not. Trying to find out. At any rate, they were taken to their apartment where he got his ID, and that was the end. Not that it should matter one bit... but the kid with ID was white, and our non-ID friend is mixed.

When I talk with him again, I will ask about time of day.

There's no further news. After he produced his ID at home, the officer just left. End of story.

Man. So, to finish my start on this, they did give him a ride to his home to make him produce his ID. Anyone else think this a bit Gestapo-ish?

A young friend of our family was out walking in Hendersonville the other night. Beautiful evening, just getting some air. HPD pulled over and asked if he had any ID on him. He had left it at home. The officer proceeded to tell him that if he's over 18, he's required to have his ID on him, or he gets to spend the night in jail. Seriously?? Vee must haf our paperz, or zee SS vill detain us?

I was thinking SIG, but I have no clue...

I don't know; the inside of my head is pretty exciting...

Cry. I find it ironic that one of the page "likes" is "Zombie Tools." Yes, they are.

Guess that shoots the "apple a day" theory to hell...

Finally saw it! Went over to my wife's Win... uh, Wind... uh... computer (go figure) and it played there. Gorgeous!!!

Except play this vid y'all are raving about!

I'm on a MAC...

I still get nothing but a white slab. Sure wish I could see what you guys are enjoying...

I just got a blank...?

Not exactly "movin' on up."

Man; probably right... but that sure doesn't bode well for the upcoming weeks...

Ever checked Bellshire Hardware? Seems like Phil has them all the time.

There's a guy on the Goodlettsville PD, Charlie Morrow, that's a SIG armorer. See if you can get a hold of him.