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Benelli montefeltro autoloaders seem to hold up well to high volume dove shooting in South America. Beretta semi autos are pretty popular in clay target shooting.

You might want to keep your handgun carry permit because you still cannot carry in a park without a permit.

I am surprised the gun organizations thought it was more beneficial to pass a law with heavily restricted permitless carry (looks like you cannot even carry in a park legally) instead of fixing the problems with the present enhanced permit such as: A parent cannot legally carry when visiting his kid at college. A person cannot legally carry at night visiting a sick family member in the hospital due to no gun signs. An working adult cannot carry at the local community college when taking night classes. Some state office buildings legally ban carry due to the no gun signs.

Mandatory gun classes in K-12 schools are not necessary. If kids are interested in shooting, many schools and churches offer hunter's education. A lot of schools have trap shooting teams. Some kids just may not be interested in guns or the parents may not want the kids to learn. Better to spend time and effort removing handgun carry permit restrictions for adults who choose to carry than force kids to take gun classes at school.

From a practical sense, more would be accomplished by removing carry restrictions on the enhanced carry permit VS having heavily restricted constitutional carry. The enhanced carry permit restrictions should have been removed first.

Maybe a large national gun organization can lobby the state politicians in Nashville to fix this issue. It is kind of pathetic that you cannot carry a gun at the place you purchase a permit to carry.

The bill is not constitutional carry at all when only Tennessee residents can carry without a permit. Constitutional carry is when all legal people can carry openly or concealed.

I'm not surprised that the bill as of now allows a national gun org to pat politicians on the back in public for something that could be pretty restrictive. You have to remember there is a thread where people are discussing if they can carry WITH a permit at a driver license office because there may or may not be legal no gun signs. The national gun organization possibly endorsing this so called constitutional carry law has not even fixed a dumb law like that for people with carry permits or campus carry with a permit.

Mississippi has constitutional carry, a concealed license without training, and an actual enhanced license (not like the TN enhanced) where you can carry on school and college property legally. I have yet to hear of many problems out of good people there. I hope the politicians and gun organizations can get behind that kind of system in TN this year.

I would like to see the enhanced permit actually enhanced to remove carry restrictions for people that want to carry in places right now that you cannot carry like colleges. Legal constitutional carry is the right step forward for this state. Good people have carried concealed and do carry all across this country without a license for protection. Other states that border TN do not seem to have a problem with constitutional carry.

Change state law so that this 'enhanced' permit is an actual enhanced permit so that we do not have to leave our gun in a car at places where it is now illegal to carry. It is difficult for a gun to be stolen when it is concealed on someone instead of left in a car.

Maybe the pro gun conservative republican legislators should turn the enhanced carry permit into a real enhanced permit this spring. That way people with the enhanced permits do not have to leave guns in their cars at places like colleges and other properties. That is what enhanced permits are for in other states. Why would that not work in Tennessee?

States like Mississippi that have enhanced licenses are actually enhanced licenses. You can carry just about anywhere in public legally with an enhanced license in Mississippi, such as K-12 schools and colleges. That obviously did not happen with this 'enhanced' permit name change that we got in Tennessee last year.

In my opinion, the politicians pulled this new two permit system for a couple reasons last year. One, the politicians did not want to of course allow people to carry without licenses. That scares a lot of these fake 'pro gun' so called conservatives. Two, the politicians also did not want to make the current permit system better as in cutting the restrictions on where people cannot legally carry with a permit. Legal college campus carry was not passed. People still question "Is this a legal sign?" when people in most states do not have such a silly concern. A major gun lobbying organization probably failed and endorsed this junk instead of fixing what we already have and also getting permit free carry. The organization and the politicians got to look pro gun to everyone without accomplishing anything.

It should not be the place for state government to add weapons crimes for people, especially people with carry permits, who are violating a property owner's weapons and/or human resource policies. Weapons policies are normally civil issues (such as workplace rules) and at most turn into trespass issues when an individual refuses to leave when a property owner/manager asks that person to leave. Tennessee is one of the few states in the country that has that sort of law on the books and applies it to people with carry permits. Constitutional carry would be great but does not fix the other places in this state that you cannot legally carry a handgun even with a permit. Many of those locations are legal to carry with a permit in other states, like college campuses.

You would be better off spending the slightly extra money and getting what right now is called the handgun carry permit and will be called next year the enhanced carry permit. You may end up with better reciprocity in other states and also be legal to carry in a couple more places, such as public hunting land.

The no guns posting law in this state is unnecessary and anti gun because it is a weapons crime, even for people with handgun carry permits. Most states do not have this sort of law on the books, especially for people with pistol permits, because trespass covers unwanted behavior on private and government property. A lot of people forget that those 'no gun' signs in TN do make it illegal to carry on some local and state government owned property.

'Pro gun' Tennessee Republican legislators failed again to pass an easy gun carry bill. The bill is only somewhat helpful and does not even get rid of the sign law. At this rate, it might get done in another ten years after half of the country has constitutional carry.

The town probably has a human resource policy against employees carrying guns while working even though it is legal under state law to carry on the town's property. That HR policy is probably what is getting changed so that employees are not fired for carrying on the job. Changing an employment policy of their town may require some sort of vote.

I don't think the teachers in Mississippi made a big deal when MS got enhanced licenses that legalized K-12 and college carry several years ago. I am not sure if K-12 school employees there can carry without breaking some sort of workplace policy. My opinion is that a lot of the 'conservative Republicans' in TN are not as pro gun as they claim to be when other states have legalized school and college carry. Of course many other states have now legalized constitutional carry. We instead get a so called enhanced permit from our Republican majority legislature that is not enhanced at all.

The 'conservative Republicans' in the legislature would have been better off just legalizing carry for people with handgun carry permits or the 'enhanced' carry permits on K-12 school and college property. Then add some sort of employment law stating that staff at public K-12 schools can carry without getting fired from their jobs. That is too easy of a fix by adding a sentence or two to the weapons law and some wording to school staff employment law. It is better for 'conservative Republicans' to spend extra money in order to do something and even create more jobs. Police and armed guards are important at campuses, but one officer or armed guard cannot be expected to protect a large school campus with a thousand students.

If you have a current handgun carry permit, you gain no additional carry privileges (similar to what other states have) by the permit converting to an 'enhanced' carry permit next year. The TN legislature did nothing for us as far as reducing carry restrictions this year.

It is important to note that the slight improvement to the 'no gun sign' law did not even make it through the Senate again to be signed by the governor. So basically we got absolutely no reduction in carry restrictions this year. The NRA it seems like could not even get behind a simple modification to slightly making our carry laws better and seeing that bill passed through the legislature to the governor's office. Instead it looks like the NRA lobbyist pushed for a 2nd carry permit that saves people 35 bucks and could cause those of us with current handgun carry permits/now 'enhanced' to lose reciprocity with other states. Those of us with now 'enhanced' permits got no benefits that people in other states with 'enhanced' permits have, which include legal school, college campus carry, and in general ability to carry about anywhere without worrying about "am I legal here?" .

There are states that do not even have training requirements for carry permits that have less carry restrictions than what we have in Tennessee for what will become 'enhanced' carry permits. It is pretty pathetic what we are getting for our now enhanced carry permit compared to a lot of other states in the country. The enhanced permit allows us to carry in a park where school groups are but the now standard permit does not in Tennessee is what I am reading? How stupid to even have that sort of legal trap for honest people. And this is how a Republican super majority helped people with a slightly cheaper carry permit instead of just getting rid of that law entirely?

Mississippi's enhanced carry permit that requires the same live fire training class as Tennessee allows you to legally carry in K-12 and college buildings in Mississippi. You don't have to worry about criminal weapons charges over 'no gun' signs either with an enhanced permit in MS. We did not get that which makes this whole new 'enhanced' deal in Tennessee a complete joke. People who went through live fire training in Tennessee continue to get nothing enhanced out of it. If you don't want to pay for a permit in Mississippi, you can just carry a handgun without a license concealed with some restrictions. You can also get a license without any training that has some restrictions.