Whisper

Damn. That's impressive weight loss. Congratulations. Cheers, Whisper

Sure looks like a P80 to me, but I've not seen a high-quality image, so you could be right. I'll look online for better photos. And we'll likely learn much more in the coming days. EDITED TO ADD: A guy on a DIY forum who has built 3-D guns is saying that the gun in question is a Chairman Won printed clone of a Glock 19. So, you appear to be correct that it's a 3-D printed frame and not a P80. Cheers, Whisper

Thanks; my comments weren't as precise as they should have been. I realize that some 3-D printed guns use unregulated actual gun parts and 3-D printed receivers, but most cops and the news media use the term "3-D printed guns" to promote fear of untraceable guns being made in basements with this evil new technology that must be regulated. To be fair, some media outlets are reporting the murder weapon as being homemade, which seems to be accurate, but that's not the same as a 3-D printed gun. If you buy an 80% receiver that requires only a drill press and a Dremel tool to finish, and then you buy the unregulated gun parts that are traditionally manufactured, you have a homemade gun, but not a 3-D printed gun. This assassin appears to have used a P80, which would not have required any 3-D printed parts. We'll learn more when someone who is actually knowledgeable about guns gets a chance to look at the murder weapon. Still no photos available of the silencer yet, so we don't know much about it (although Bloomberg did report this morning that it is made of metal). I did not know about the FGC-9; thanks for that info. Cheers, Whisper

There's a difference between a 3-D printed gun and an 80% build. This gun looks like a P80 to me. And no one has explained how you can 3-D print a threaded steel barrel on a home 3-D printer. No photo of silencer yet; I'm guessing because it, despite police claims, it wasn't 3-D printed. It was just home-built, like the home-built silencers for which plans are available all over the internet. But it's important to cops and anti-gunners to demonize 3-D printing of weapons, which is why the phony claims of 3-D printing in this case are so numerous.

It's your gun. Do what you want. I know I've had some guns restored and have never regretted it. If it loses value from refinishing, but you never plan to sell it, what do you care if its resale value is decreased after you're dead? If you'd like it better refinished, go ahead and get it refinished, and enjoy it during the rest of your life. You'll be focused on other things in the next life. Cheers, Whisper

So it's 115 gr and not 155?

1948 was the first year this gun was made; production ended in 1961. Looking at recent sales on Gunbroker, most of these guns seem to be going in the mid-300s to mid-500s. There are some exceptions, though I'm not knowledgeable enough about 721 variations (caliber, finish, etc.) to know which ones drive the value up. The .270 caliber isn't rare. But the carved stock was not an option offered by Remington, so it's an aftermarket modification, which means the gun doesn't really have value as a collection piece. What's the scope on the gun? A nice one could add a lot of value. The quality of carving on the stock would matter, too. It's hard to judge from a photo, but it looks good. What's the evidence that it's a tack driver? I've been buying used guns for well over 40 years and I've not yet met anyone selling one who said it shot 4-5 MOA. See if the owner will let you shoot it a half-dozen rounds. Then you'll know for sure. With no more info than I have now, I'd say $300 plus whatever additional value you'd place on the stock and scope. But there are lots of people on this board with lots of guns, so perhaps an experienced Remington 721 owner will offer more commentary. Cheers, Whisper

This is a smoking deal. I don't need this gun, but if it was closer to Chattanooga I'd buy it just...because. Some of you Nashville folks wake up and get on this. Cheers, Whisper

The demise of Armslist has been well discussed, both here and on other boards. If you wanted a lesson in how to destroy an online sales model, you would find no better example than Armslist. One of the principles of the universe is that whatever part of Tennessee you live in, you'll find the guns you want in a far-away part of the state. North Carolina has a similar problem. Gun buyers who live in a state that's narrow in one dimension and wide in the others should learn to enjoy road trips. There are always pawn shops and barbecue joints along the way.... Cheers, Whisper

I've responded to all messages, gun still available. Cheers, Whisper

The article you cited is way out of date. Trump owned three handguns and surrendered two of them to the cops in NY in March 2023, and the third was transferred to FL. Donald Trump's license to carry a gun in NY expected to be revoked after 'hush money' trial conviction: sources

It looks like you're in Oliver Springs, so this might not help, but Montlake Freedom Works in Red Bank had one of these for sale in the store yesterday. Cheers, Whisper

You're right that he's not on our side, but right after Trump's first election, one of his sons was saying that he would take suppressors off the NFA list, which wouldn't really be a heavy lift for any president, but Trump didn't do it. Maybe this time he will.

SOLD For sale -- nice condition Swiss K31, 7.5 Swiss, with original sling, original bayonet, and two original stripper clips. Matching serial numbers on bolt and receiver date this gun to 1940. Photos show butt of stock is in good condition; no water damage from standing in the snow, as is seen on many of these guns. With the bayonet and stripper clips included, this one is ready to load up and go fight Nazis. $725 to an honest citizen legally able to purchase long guns. I live in Chattanooga and will drive a reasonable distance for a deal. For trades, right now I'm looking for a shooter-grade over/under 12-gauge shotgun with 28" barrels. A Browning Citori would be great (I can add some cash for boot if needed but I don't want a shotgun that costs as much as a car). Other trades considered, but I already have all the plastic pistols and ARs that I need. Thanks for looking, Whisper

Still available.

Still here, but lonely, waiting for a 1911 to live with.

The NRA should be behind this one also.

Nice gun. Too bad you're so far away. Are those the original grips? I've seen photos of these guns with grips that looked more like the ones on the old Detective Specials. Thanks, Whisper

Are you talking about the CCI Quiet-22 Segmented HP? I've found those to be highly effective on tree rats, and in a .22 bolt gun they're quieter than my RWS Diana pellet rifle. I've never tried the ammo in a semiauto but it does seem to burn dirty so I guess it's not surprising if it wouldn't cycle reliably after a while. Hope the cleaning helps.

I agree totally with all of this. Cheers, Whisper

You apparently weren't paying attention to the right polls. The high-quality polls during the last week all said it was too close to call; Nate Silver, probably the best pollster we have now, said it was within the mathematical margin of error, but his gut feeling was Trump would win. Trump got 50.5% of the popular vote. Harris and Biden both gave calm, reasonable, and gracious concession speeches. (If Biden had spoken that well at the debate with Trump, he would have been the party's nominee.) They accepted their loss like adults and agreed to cooperate in the transition. What would you have preferred for them to say?

I see much good stuff about that SFAR, and I've been impressed with ones I've handled at the gun store. But I already have too many guns that I hardly ever shoot, and I probably don't need more. Probably. Maybe. Gee, what do these cost nowadays.... Whisper

He died of cancer in 2008. His last film appearance was a small role in Scarface in 1983.

Carrying concealed gives one a tactical advantage if a problem requiring use of your gun comes up. If it's important to you to give up that tactical advantage, then go ahead. Just remember that none of the nationally prominent firearms trainers recommend open carry. That could be considered a clue. Cheers, Whisper

I hope this class gets back on the schedule soon. I'd love to take it; just can't do it this weekend. Looking forward to reading an after-class report.