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I have owned a couple other Vertecs in the past and actually prefer them over the standard arched frame. I thought the beavertail here might be more of an issue than it turned out to be; if you have large, beefy hands and like to ride the safety, you may have a problem with it. I think the trigger is ideal the way it's currently set up. I'm not very finicky about pre- and post-travel so I don't foresee ever twiddling those screws. I haven't used the Langdon trigger bar; I imagine they changed the contact point against the hammer so as to provide more leverage, or something. Generally I add "D" springs to my Berettas and that gets them into the acceptable range for me.
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I picked up a 9CT not long ago. I'm not really fond of the PTR hand guard and will probably replace it with something like the classic MP5 wide foreend, though I'd like some sort of handstop. Nothing wrong with the PTR handguard, other than it's ugly. I don't plan on tacking on a lot of accessories since it's only ever going to be a range gun for me, but I will probably put a RDS on it, most likely a Holosun.
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I visited the range and put about 250 rounds through the 92X Performance. The trigger measures about 6.5# in DA and 3.3 # in SA. Weight of the gun without a magazine is 2 lbs, 13 oz. The reliability was perfect with both included magazines. I was shooting reloads, 115gr Brazos coated LRN atop 4.6gr Titegroup. Accuracy of this load in this gun was mediocre, about 2" at 15 yards. I didn't have any other ammo with me to test with. I don't know if they had any special accuracy requirements for this gun; I did detect slight movement of the muzzle when the barrel is in battery, so that's not great. Shooting impressions: Sights provided a good picture. I'm going to nitpick the front fiber sight a bit and say that the fiber was placed higher than I like. I'm used to Dawsons, which are easier to align vertically. I found myself looking for the top of the black front sight to get alignment for precise shots, only to find glowing dot there. So I'll probably replace that. The rear sight was easy to adjust, I had to dial it a few clicks up and over to get my hits where I wanted. I disliked the "gas pedal" style takedown lever. It's only large enough to get maybe half the tip of my thumb onto it, and the edges and corner are far too sharp for comfort. I'm going to look into swapping it out for a standard 92 part. I shot most of the time with my thumb underneath it. I also wasn't fond of the slide stop's angled tab. Its proximity to the safety lever and its downward rake of the tab meant it was more difficult to find and hit than it should have been. I'm not really sure why they didn't use a standard 92 part; maybe they were worried that people who ride the safety would accidentally hold it down with the tip of their thumb. The thumb safety was OK: it had a good tension on and off, and the extended "shelf" was easily reached by the thumb, although I would have preferred it to extend further back. Beretta says they will offer 3 different sizes of safety lever, but I haven't been able to find out what they look like yet. The safety did make slide manipulation a bit more of a challenge than I'm used to on 92s. Between the location of the serrations (low on the slide) and the prominent safety levers, it makes grabbing the "sweet spot" more of a challenge -- if you grab too low, your fingers will be blocked by the safety. I'm glad they included forward serrations, they're probably going to see a lot of use on this gun. The frame serrations were a bit of a help, but not what I'd call sharp enough to be really useful, and the slick nickel/tin finish wasn't helpful here. I would skateboard tape over the frontstrap if I were going to do much competing with it... not that such a heavy gun is all that hard to hang onto in 9mm, but I like my grip to be locked in. The built-in mag funnel was well done. No lanyard loop, and it looks like you can get to the mainspring housing pin without taking the grips off. I thought the beavertail might prove to be a problem due to its sharp corners, but that was pretty much a non-issue.
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This is an example of the issue that the dimpled magazine follower was created to fix. Mec Gar makes a good magazine in general, but they aren't what I'd pick for 1911s. The Wilson mags have that plastic follower with no dimple, and the mag comes out of the box with the springs a bit on the soft side. A moderate amount of use will weaken the springs to the point that odd things may start happening if a 1911 isn't set up quite right. I also suspect that your recoil spring might be a little on the light side for the loads you're using, which can cause inertia feeds with the right (wrong) magazine design. In your earlier posts, you said it happened with the Gold Dots; did it happen with the 400 rounds of ball ammo?
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I've handled them and wouldn't mind getting one, but they're going to have to come down a bit more, say to $400. The gun feels pretty cheap compared to most other striker designs and the flimsy frame rails don't inspire a whole lot of confidence, but as they say, the proof is in the shooting.
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The last round out-of-battery issue is commonly caused by inertia feed, where the last round squirts out of the magazine on recoil, before the slide has a chance to push it out of the mag. So the slide follows the round into battery but is stopped by the extractor as it hits the case rim and fails to snap over. Then you rack the slide but the round stays in the chamber because the extractor isn't hooked on the case rim. Inertia feeds are a sign your mag springs are weakening. Wilson mag springs wear out pretty fast in my experience. As a troubleshooting method, I would suggest using new 7 round mags to see if the problem follows. You say the issue doesn't happen with the ACT mag, which is a good indicator that inertia feed is what you're experiencing. If you want to replace the Wilson mag springs, I have had good luck with the ISMI replacement spring, part number SSCS2. Of course you could call Wilson and see if they will send you new springs but I generally prefer to just buy a new spring that doesn't have the same issue. https://www.brownells.com/magazines/handgun-magazines/magazine-parts/magazine-springs/1911-premium-magazine-springs-prod7541.aspx
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Yes, I have several, a couple M9s and a couple L9s. They are interesting for sure. What I like is that they use the same Glock grip angle but they also angled the trigger guard to be perpendicular to the grip angle. This means your trigger finger can ride more naturally. I always hated the Glocks because my trigger finger would always drag the frame and the bottom of the trigger guard due to my grip. The Steyr design completely fixes that. Shot-to-shot recovery time equals that of the Glock, in my experience. I'm not really fond of the pyramid-style sights but it's something you get used to, if you shoot it exclusively for about a month. The triggers tend to be pretty good, but the reset is difficult to feel, if that's something you care about (personally it doesn't make a lot of difference to me). Accuracy is good, better than most comparable similar service pistols that I own. Reliability is 100% with hot ammo; with lighter loads (example: minor power factor 9mm), I get the occasional stovepipe. I think it would break in and become a little more forgiving once the springs take more of a set. What I don't like: the slide is awfully wide, makes IWB carry a challenge. I also don't like the magwell, which is not beveled or funneled in any way, making reloads more cumbersome than necessary. They have the M9A2 out now, but I've held off buying one because they are so ugly
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It sounds to me that the barrel has a very short throat and the projectile of choice is wedging into the rifling, keeping the slide out of battery just enough that the disconnector is keeping the sear disengaged (to prevent out of battery firing). If it were mine, I would run in a chamber reamer to make sure there was adequate freebore in the throat.
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I have a full-sized PX4 9mm which is decent enough. I converted the safety lever to a decocker-only setup. The rotating barrel does mitigate recoil noticeably, and you can install a lighter hammer spring to make the DA pull easier. I'm with some of you guys, though, I always thought the subcompact version was way too bulky for what it was. A Beretta compact I do like very much (for some inexplicable reason) is the 96 Compact. I bought a 92 Compact later to keep it company but somehow still prefer the .40. I guess it's because it's scaled down just enough from the full-sized model to make it very handy, yet controllable.
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Discounts for C&R License Holders
ken_mays replied to Mike A's topic in Curio, Relics and Black Powder
Brownell's is the only place I know still offering a C&R discount... but discounted Brownell's prices = regular retail prices everywhere else. I have a C&R still but I probably wouldn't miss it if I let it lapse. I don't have much interest in C&Rs anymore and (aside from mail order), I've only ever had one regular FFL know what a C&R FFL was and sell to me. -
No, I haven't handled the M or MRD, just the original 509. Encouraging to see that they are addressing even minor complaints about the frames, although there really isn't much to complain about, it's one of the more ergonomic ones out there. I still think the sear is flimsy compared to other designs and I think the Apex one would be a worthwhile upgrade (again, haven't seen the M or MRD). I am actually a fan of the factory trigger design though I know many people seem to prefer the straight Apex unit. However, even after shooting several thousand rounds though mine and doing some polishing, it still registers 6 pounds on the trigger scale. It's not as squeaky and gritty on take up as a couple of the FNSs I've owned, but I wouldn't call it smooth as an M&P or Glock either. I tend to reload every caliber I shoot, except for shotguns and .22. When I could load 9mm lead for $.06 a round it made more sense than it does now, but I still do so because I like a consistent load that I know makes minor power factor for competition. I also like to load fairly long (though nothing approaching SAAMI OAL limits) because long rounds run better in 1911s and I prefer to have one load that runs reliably in anything. Only Glocks and the 509 ever had a throat short enough to be a problem, but since there seem to be some subtle differences with the later 509 variants, maybe that was addressed as well.
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1911 guys - what do you do yourself versus send out?
ken_mays replied to stealthgoat's topic in Gunsmithing & Troubleshooting
The only thing I'll send out for is plating or PVD / IonBond. Usually I don't even bother, I'll do Cerakote or hot blue. -
I've handled one and got a chance to look at it with the slide off. The internals didn't inspire a lot of confidence. The rails were relatively flimsy sheet metal that were floating and not firmly molded into the frame, and some of the fire control assembly parts appeared fragile and not up to much use and abuse. There was nothing off-putting about handling and dry-firing. It is pretty acceptable all the way around. Trigger was around 5 pounds. About the only exceptional feature here is the optic mounting system, at this price point. I'm not saying I won't buy one, but I want to wait until some longer-term reviews start to trickle in, and I will wait until I can pick one up more cheaply than I've seen it so far ($470).
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As an owner of the 509 (non electronic sight model) and quite a few FNSs, what really chaps my hide is the trigger on these. They all tend to have a squeaky, gritty, jerky pull with plenty of hitches in the creep. Much of this is due to rough machining in the striker channel. I had the opportunity to shoot one of Dave Sevigny's competition FNSs and that trigger was slicked and lightened far beyond anything I've dared to do on mine. He said that polishing and striker spring trimming was how he managed it. Reliability wise, I think the fire control components are the weak spot here, especially the thin, narrow sheet metal sear which is more susceptible to deformation than it should be. I discovered this when I had a FNS that developed a dead trigger after a few hundred rounds. The sear was not always catching the striker, due to slop in the frame/slide fit. It was easy to bend the sear up at more of an angle to catch the striker every time. It is also immensely irritating that the FNS and 509 magazines are different, at least the floorplate. The tubes are the same but any advantage in interchangeability is lost once you have to fiddle-fart around with the floorplates. Another thing I don't care for on the 509 is the contouring of the frame around the mag release button. In their quest to shield it from accidental activation, they made it more difficult to find the darn thing with your finger or thumb. If I carried mine, I would have to grind down the plastic bumps surrounding it. They also have a really short barrel throat as well. I was shooting some reloads that had no trouble chambering in a lot of other pistols I happened to have that day, but the 509 wouldn't even go into battery on them. I believe the barrel is nitrided, which rules out reaming with a standard HSS finish reamer. Other than these gripes, I like the 509 and find it reliable and accurate. I especially like the sights. It's an easy gun to shoot accurately and would be even more so if the trigger had a cleaner break.
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I use Titegroup for 9mm, 40 and 45, among others. It's fairly fast-burning and well-behaved. In my experience, almost anything will work well in .45. When I use medium-rate powder such as AA#5, the cases, especially in 9mm, are filled up more and tend to slop powder out as the shellplate rotates.
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I always liked the LA Police Gear operator pants. I think every pair I bought has been sub-$30.
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I suspect your powder has deteriorated. I would buy a pound of something new and try again.
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In my experience, adjustable sights are more necessary on 9mm 1911s than .45s. Regulating point of impact for a 9mm is often not ideal out of the box on fixed sight 1911s and you will more often than not have it shooting low or high.
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RANGE USA Closed up shop in the middle of the night
ken_mays replied to SonnyCrockett's topic in Handguns
That's the old Range 8 facility on Lamar. I haven't been in there in 20 years. I figured it was no longer a public range, and I think they close up around dark (not a bad idea, in that part of town). -
Oh, I absolutely agree. But on the 442s, they are such a dull matte blue that they might as well be painted. I did recently come into an older S&W Airweight that I think would be a sin to paint, though.
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The PCC is far more reliable out of the box than most 9mm ARs, especially the parts / budget versions. I remember reaming about 7 or 8 short-chambered barrels for owners of PSA AR-9s after the owners saw crumpled loaded cartridges coming out of the chamber. Then there's the issue of finding a buffer system that you can live with that won't beat your trigger to death. One fellow I shoot with has been through about 3 broken Hiperfire triggers with his AR-9. The PCC can also handle very light 9mm loads, which is useful if you're doing steel matches with it. I got down to about 2.4 grains of Titegroup behind a 115 gr bullet before it wouldn't cycle reliably. It isn't often I get really enthused about a new rifle but Ruger did so many things right with this gun that I am a huge fan of them. Now the Mini-14 is still an expensive, inaccurate turd when you put it against a $400 AR.
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You might want to consider a 5" 9mm 1911 with an aluminum frame. The lighter frame counteracts the added weight from the full length slide, while the long slide carries better (for me, at least) than the Commander size and the sight radius makes it easier to make accurate shots.
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Wilson just announced a longer slide version of the EDC X9. https://www.wilsoncombat.com/edc-x9l/ That's what I was waiting for, since I didn't have much use for a carry-sized version. I'd prefer something I could compete with.
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I have a 442 with a blued barrel and cylinder and I would rather have a cheesy coat of paint, honestly. It's a fair amount of work to keep rust off the blued parts on the 442 when I carry it.
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There are several companies I trust to introduce a new design. Glock, HK, Beretta, for instance. Kimber is definitely not one of them. I adopt an ironclad "let's wait a few years and see" policy with them.