bersaguy

Well I am sorry for your friends MIL but evidently someone is not doing their job. My Daughter is an RN at a facility that works primarily with Alzheimers and the elderly and according to talks we have had people suffering from Alzheimers are for the most part non violent easy to work with patients that mostly require just the basic care such as dressing and eating and most normal everyday essentials. Maybe they might want to search out another facility.

According to the reports that were released. Yes, he was in custody for domestic Violence and taken to jail. Yes he was held for observation by a Mental Crisis Team for 24 hours. The team decided he was not unstable enough to hold him and the state was California and I am not sure how their laws read on what is to unstable and requires holding a person.

Well I can see your point but what about the lawsuits that might follow if people realizes they had this guy in custody in April and he was examined by a Mental Crisis Group that stated he did have issues but they didn't feel it would be enough to hold him longer than the observation period and now we see how wrong they were about him. Maybe had they held him a little longer and studied him a little more. You know, do the homework they might have saw the side of him that came out in the Bar the other night an prevented it. What is more important? Worring about lawsuits that might or might not happen or worrying about a man that has dangerous tendencies being turned back out into society? They already knew he was violent is why the police had him in the first place. He was in a rampage and kicking holes if the walls of the house! Did they check his facebook posts while they had him. Even back in High School when they had him sign in the section of future plans he printed the word DEATH in all caps. I know you said you fear RED FLAGS but maybe ever so often they are right..............JMHO

And how long ago was when the State of Tennessee got out of the mental health business. I bet it was before we have the technology of today. As far as a person with Alzheimer's should not be placed in a mental facility to begin with. They are not mentally ill. They are forgetful and need to be in a nursing homes or depending on how much attention they need maybe an Assisted Living Facility but not a Mentally Ill facility. If the Authorities were as concerned about mental health as some claim to be let them use all this technology we have that sends men to the moon and give folks Satelite TV and all these other fancy gadgets. Let them get their focus on building some State of the Art Mental Health facilities that will actually do what they are suppose to do. Show folks that they do have people capable of doing something positive with our tax beside give themselves raises and sit on the a$$.

The news said earlier that he had a few run ins with the law prior to joining the Marine Corps and said that he seemed to have mental issues off and on and they don't think he was suffering from PTSD when he made the decision to shoot up the Club. They think he went there because he thought his ex-girlfriend might be there. At least they are coming up with some information on the invesgation and being transparent with them.

Bredesen only carry 3 countys. Shelby, Knox and Davidson. I guess Shumer thought he would carry all 95 counties again like he did as Governor. Well, looks like politics have changed in Tennessee since those days..........JMHO

I have no clue about after market vehicle insurance these days since I have been out of the repair business for some time. I can tell you some horror stories about the ones that were around back 25 years ago. They were all rip offs. I had customers that had purchased them and paid big bucks for them and got zero or almost zero in return when they had a claim. I am quite sure things have probably changed a lot in 25 years. My son took over the business when I became disabled as far as being able to work on vehicles and he has told me of a couple times his customers had claims and ended up getting lawyers and sueing the company to get their money back or their bill paid. My son does all general repairs but specializes in Rebuilding Transmissions and the cost to build the transmissions would almost make you want to just buy a new vehicle. I was down at his shop one day and he had just fnished rebuilding to Automatic transmission in a Volkswagon Beetle and I was looking at the bill. $4,734.00 and he did it at $1000,00 less than a dealer quoted the customer. The guys aftermarket warranty company would only pay $1500.00 of it leaving the customer to pay the difference. The customer was just going to trade it in on another Beetle as it was his daughters car but she loved the car so he fixed it. Thats about all I know about after market warranties but I do hope they have improved since I was turning wrenches.

Well I guess I can agree with you on this but when they went to the house for domestic disturbance they had grounds to arrest him and they had a Mental Help Crisis Team examine him and they could have had him placed in a facility for observation. People that knew him saw issues in him developing. They say if you see something say something and when people say something nothing gets done. I will say this which chances of it happening is slim to none because I don't go to places where these things happen but say I did. You can bet if I am there and packing I'm shooting at the bad guy until one of us stops the other or we both run out of ammo. I would be hoping there were another good guy or 2 show pretty quick.

Ok, more news has been released about the shooter. Back in April he was diagnosed with PTSD by doctors after the police had to go back to his mothers home where he lived on what police said was numerous times for his violent out bursts. He would kick holes in the house walls. They recomended he seek help for his issues and he refused several times. People that knew him could see him changing and his personality had went from bad to worst in the last couple month. There was RED FLAGS waving all over this guy. See paragraph below from Sheriff Dean below: I wonder how this so called Mental Health Crisis Team is looking back to April now???? In April, Dean said his department was called to Long's home because of a domestic dispute, where he was "somewhat irate and acting irrationally." A mental health crisis team concluded that Long didn't need to be taken into custody at the time.

I have said in the past a couple times that a person with training with a heavy caliber hand gun in a crowded venue such as a club like last night would be able to kill as many or more than someone with an AR and an example of that took place last night. Blaming the gun is not the answer but you wil never convince the politicians of that. They had this guy in their hands last April and knew he was suffering with some mental issues. It has not been made clear yet when and where he got the gun he used. Did he already have it when they were investigating him or did he get it after they turned him loose. I don't think that questiion has been asked yet. If so I missed it. It won't change anything now but would be interesting to know the answer to that question.

10 rounds 13 rounds 20 round magazines makes almost zero difference in the hands of an average trained person. I have practiced reloading many times and with my Bersa's I can swap magazines in average 5 seconds and be back on target. Any one with practice can have 10 round mags and if he has 5 of them he has 50 rounds of ammo to work with and a pause total of 25 seconds total in 5 second intervals. I have never understood the Magazine laws to begin with as they are useless to begin with. Criminals are going to ignore them to begin with...........JMHO

Prayers going out to all of the people at the nightclub and their families involved and a prayer to the family of the LEO Sergent for his dedication to put his life on the line knowing the bad guy was still shooting when he went in.

It would be reasonable to believe that if my home was broken into I would know it almost imediately and the first thing I would check is my guns and gun safe. Is that not true of any gun owner?...................................

Welcome to the site and the state. As far as locating deer hunting ground I can tell you up front your not going to have much luck in that area. Locals that have been living here for years and some there whole lives and have trouble getting land to hunt. I wish you luck with your search.............

Yea, over the last 8 or 10 years from what few friends I have left down that way and are looking at moving also have told me that more and more Yankees and people from New England states have settled in Franklin and the politics have changed in the town.

This will probably explain most of it. Moms Demand Actions is one of Bloombergs outfits and is a branch of Everytown for Gun Safety which was created to compete against the NRA. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everytown_for_Gun_Safety

I agree 100%. I wouldn't care whether they use DST or standard time. I would settle for either one. Just pick one and stay with it. It really messes with Darby's tummy timer. She eats at 4:30PM and that is when her tummy starts telling her it's time to eat and she comes to where ever I am in the house at about 4:15 PM, sits down and stares at me until there is food in her bowl. It works the same way and bed time. I normally go in and begin getting ready for the night at 8 PM Turn TV on turn covers back grab a bag of chips I plan on snacking on while watching TV and she will get a night snack of some kind in her snack bowl. I can bet her timing is 1 hour off tonight and it will be that way about a week or until she gets her clocks reset................LOL

I think it is going to be about rifles only and no cars, trucks and bombs from Europe.

I have had folks tell me that when Belushi died the show took a hit and then a few more died or went on to other things and the show went down hill from there. I had a buddy tell me it's about 80% political now but that may be just his opinion. I just know I gave it about 15 minutes of my time back man many years ago.

Ok, different Jane. Another thing I will throw out there is I have watch about 15 minutes of SNL 1 time and never watched it again. I don't have the stomach for that kind of humor if that is what it is called but I think it's a pile of.. and just seeing comercials of it I think it's gotten worse over the years.........JMHO

Don't know where to put this so put it here. 60 minutes is going to run a special tonight about the Long guns that are used in most mass shootings and I thought folks might be interested in seeing how they spin it or if they stay with the facts. I plan on watching it.

I have a Jane in mind but wondering if it's the same one I'm thinking of?????

I think those are so cool. My Grandson has started doing that intead of having mounts done...............

I bet he beat up women too!!! I hope when he reaches prison he gets what Whity Bolcher got!!!!

Well yea BUT!!!!! my wrist watch and my 5 wall clocks around the house and the coffee pot all need human assistance but you are correct about my smart phone and my computer. I didn't get my lap top this weekend. A young lady got in the way of his delivering it so it will be next weekend. No real hurry since I am 70 years old and got by without one this long............. As far as the clocks I know it has to e a cycological (SP) problem but I set all my clocks back before going to the bed room to catch the local new on the TV and then I turned off everything just as I do every night, said good night to Darby and laid my head on the pillow and I tossed and turned off and on all night long and didn't rest worth a damn. This happens with every clock change going in either direction.............