bersaguy

you never told me you had a 452..............Keeping secrets again huh..........lol.............. Hi buddy

RED kind of hit this on the head when he said I was looking for just one place that the general public has access to everyday that could truly be a gun free zone and it be a totally safe zone. The general public does not have access to the jail cells or the Space Station so those are not allowed even though they did fit the ideology of my original question.

I didn't say anything about "secured" facilities particularly.  I could say the White House but it has more guns in it than DC Police Department but one would never think so just going through it on a tour.

I guess I should have made it a little more clear huh?  I should have said public facility where the general population can go I guess.

  You can bet if I ever decide to buy or sell something here I will. I do have one prospect on a rifle I am selling and if it does not sell I will become a benefactor and put it on here................... :bow: :bow:

My Grandson is a jailer in a county jail here in middle TN and except for when he goes into the cell area itself he is armed. When he enters the cell area his gun is placed in lock box just out side the cell walk floor door.

I am just trying to find a GUN FREE ZONE that would work and since the space station became an International Space Station I think I read that there is a small hand gun safe on the station now. Will do some research on that one.

They are not gun free because the guy out side the bars or in the lobby of the jail has a gun. You would have to be referring to the inside of a jail cell only

Thanks and I hope so............... :up:

I would like to see who can honestly name one place that should really and positively be classified as a GUN FREE ZONE that it would actually make it an enforceable one and be honest!!!!!!! Let the list begin............. :up: :up:

You would have been a lot closer to hitting the nail on the head had you posted that. .............jmho

I sincerely hope not cause that was not my intentions. I just know how hard some ammo's are to get and was just trying to help folks that might be looking for something he was offering cause he does have some good prices on things but not good enough for me to go against our vendors here and thanks for the vote of confidence................... :up:

Didn't hear part about being a girl but still sending prayers cause GOD will know who I am praying for but a really brave young lady for sure..... :unsure:

Yea and that is why I made the apology for posting a non vendor ad here on ammo. Won't happen again for sure. Was just trying to help folks but I don't want to try and help at the expense of our vendors here........... :wall: :wall:

Trees always win. One killed my oldest son when he was 18..........No alcohol involved, Just speeding around a curve and lost control

I think right now I am just going to say a Prayer for the young man in the hospital and his family. From what I have understood from the news releases the shooter was going to shoot the library teacher and that was his target and the young man in the hospital confronted the shooter to try and stop him when he was shot and another person was also injured but not seriously and prayers will go out to that child and their parents............. :(

I have said this about a 100 times so one more won't hurt. If you really are wanting to point the finger at the real issue point it at the Department of Health and Human Services and you have pointed out the problem. When they stepped in back in the early 80's and said we can show you how to raise your children because you don't know how is when the problem began and it has never been addressed that is was the one single biggest screw up in history. When the 800 Abuse numbers hit the televisions screens it took the power away from the parents and gave it to the children. DHHS didn't realize that the children were smarter than the people running the DHHS. The Children began calling the 80 number and reporting their parents as being abusive when it was not true. DHHS didn't take it as a lie and when they launched an investigation they were not discrete about anything. They went to the employers, neighbors, other relatives, and even the churches the people attended asking questions. They didn't care that the child might be lying before they destroyed the family and their lives. They did that for so many years that any investigation scared the hell out of parents until the parents were afraid to do any type of correcting or disciplinarian action of their children for fear the child would call DHHS. It was only in the past year or so that most of those investigations have been discontinued and that is due to the fact that DHHS does not have the funding needed to perform them. The damage has already been done and I don't know if it can ever be corrected. It was proven back several years ago in a case where a teacher took the time to actually spend time with one particular child and learned that she was truly being abused by a family member. The Teacher asked her why she never called anyone for help. The girls response was no boy or girl that is truly abused will ever ask for help. When the teacher asked why, she said because we all live in fear that the people will not remove the person or believe the child and when the abuser finds out that they were reported by the child the abuse would get many times worse. Now we are living in a time when all those young people that used the DHHS to control their parents are the same people that have children of their own but because they were never taught right from wrong as children they don't know how to be parents themselves. Now with this said. If you want to point the finger at the real problem point it back about 30 years to the real issue which was DHHS and it's policies. Between that and so many doctors putting kids on drugs for ADHD that didn't have it because the child was acting out and parents could not control them because of DHHS FEARS....................JMHO

Honest  Mav, when have the bad guys ever followed any rules but their own? There are two kinds of people when it comes to guns. The law biding citizens and the bad guys. One does their best to follow the laws and the other tries every way possible to not follow the laws. I honestly don't think there is an in between anymore.

I just went and viewed the vendors section we have here on the site which is probably I should have done when I joined. I will no longer be posting the sale items from Ammo Man and I do apologize to all the vendors here for posting them in the past. I was just wanting to help folks be able to locate ammo they may have needed and couldn't find. Won't make that mistake again unless Ammoman wants to become a Vendor here on the site. I did tell him he may want to look at joining the site but evidently he chose not to.      Bersaguy

Probably related in some way to some type of bullying that took place and was why the shooter had specific targets in play and after shooting them took their own life as many bullied people do.......................jmho

You are probably very correct about it going away pretty quick cause even when the good guys win they lose. They don't want to give any positive credit to the good guys for fear of it is disruptive towards their anti gun agenda's................... :rant: :rant:

I am beginning to think people are not in a Christmas spirit as the Newtown shooting took place just before Christmas about this time of the month. I'm not even sure there was a shooting but Fox is on top of it for sure. There has been no official announcement yet.

they say two kids have been shot by another student in a Colorado School!!!!!

Well I would say that hair color does not matter when you kick in the door of any young lady and your looking down the muzzle of a Glock or any other large bore weapon. You know at that moment you picked the wrong girl.................Jmho

Well, I guess this is good news for me. A buddy stopped by here for coffee and I told him I was going to go computer shopping and he said why and I told him to go turn on my computer and try going someplace and he would see. He did and spent about 10 minutes typing and mousing and then told me to come and try it out. "Whallllla"!!!! and everything is working as good as new. He is a kinda geek type guy and messes with computers all the time. He listed a bunch of stuff that was wrong with my computer which most was like Greek to me but looks like I may not be going shopping now any time soon. He told me if I had any more issues call him. Sometimes it helps to have friends that are smarter than you are which in my case is most friends.............. :rofl: :rock: :rock: