bersaguy

i have always thought that when there is refutable proof beyond any shadow of a doubt of guilt and or a confession of guilt and the said person is sentenced to death it should be carried out within 48 hours of the trial and I think all 50 states should still use the gallows and hang mans noose. The criminal should be placed in a cell where he can stare at only the gallows for his last 48 hours and be able to picture himself hanging at the end of the rope. I think anyone that wishes to attend should be allowed to. This humanity our country began using back in the early 70's and called it rehabilitation is nothing but a joke and has done nothing more than pack our prisons with dead beats because they are treated better inside than they had it on the outside. It is no longer a punishment that fits the crime but a vacation resort at taxpayer expense. Bring back chain gangs and jobs within the penal system and make the prisons self supportive once again. If the want to eat they better grow their own food and raise their own livestock for meat and milk. It they want electricity they better operate a power house that supplies their own electricity. If they want sheets for their beds and towels for their showers they better operate their own textile mills and make their own. if they want bread they better operate the grist mills that make the flour and meal to make the bread. They better have cooks and bakers that do the cooking and prepare the meals. No cable TV's and air conditioning,  no wearing of free world clothing but striped uniforms. Only the bare minimum in health care by free world doctors within the confines of the prison walls. No outside trips to free world hospitals at tax payers expense. Prisons should be prisons like they were 80 + years ago. You can bet there would not be any over crowding of people in our prison systems and people committing petty crimes to get in for medical care just to be released in a year which a lot of that is going on right now. Have mandatory sentencing for each crime  and if you go back a second time you do twice as much time as first trip automatically.   I think the test of rehabilitation has been given a good test and proven it failed miserably . Time to make prisons truly prisons again......................jmho

  :rofl: :rofl: :rock: :rock:  Nope but hope you have one like it in your yard :up:

I know a guy that has a Holland & Holland 454 side by side and I was even stupid enough to shoot the damn thing................ :screwy: :screwy: 

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i forgot about him so maybe it's over for a while again, even though the other two were much older and I think died of natural causes he would still make three connected to Tensile Town I guess.............jmho

I just got off the phone with buddy in Piedmont SC and they have 12 inches and it is not even showing signs of slowing down............

Nothing on the ground in Gallatin

Teeco was asking about your town last night. He is looking for a place to live and he asked about your town and if anyone knew anything about it.

The reason I am asking this question is because lets say a guy named Tom was involved in a case back in early 80's when a Cheatham County Sheriff's Deputy was killed during a drug store burglary. He was shot in the back twice by someone with a shotgun and 00 buck from about 15 yards and killed. Tom owned a Service Station on the 188 exit of Kingston Springs Tennessee on I-40. Tom knew the officer quite well and he was a friend. He had a few officers come by his station and talk with him and asked him if he had seen anything out of the ordinary the night before and he didn't have anything really jump out at him about  the night before. He had heard about Frankie getting killed on the news that morning over in Pegram at the Drug Store during the burglary. He didn't really give it much thought that day but the next day as he got ready to leave for work and to open the station he noticed his neighbors truck was not there which was different since they were never gone that early. The house was a rental they lived in. He asked his sons that afternoon if the neighbor boy Jeff was in school that day and they said no. That night their truck never came home. Tom went back to the night Frankie was killed in his mind and he remembered that early that next morning his neighbors had gotten their truck stuck on a mud road the night before that entered the Mobile home park they all lived in and they asked him if he could take his 4x4 and pull their truck out of the mud. He didn't think about it but he went up and pulled them out and he did ask them why they came in on the mud road instead of the paved road since it had rained that night and they looked at each other but never answered. Just paid him the 20 bucks for pulling them out and left and that was the last time he had seen their truck. Being a logical thinker back then and somewhat curious about things he began  trying to look at what all these small parts of the picture were.  He also remembered that back in the months leading up to Frankies death the two oldest brothers and the one school age boy would go out in the fields behind the house and cap off a few shotguns they owned at targets which soon became another piece of the puzzle since Frankie was killed with a shotgun.  It had now been 4 days and their truck had not been home and the youngest boy had not been back to school as Tom would ask his boys each day when they got in from school. There was two young men in early 20's a boy about 13 and their mother all living there and the mother was in bad health.  He let one more day pass and then he decided it was time to ask a few questions of his own and he knew a few TBI investigators personally that were friends of his so he called one of them up and had them stop by his house that afternoon.  He had one of them run the names of the two oldest boys through the data base  and their names came back as having records for burglaries of Drug Stores and had served time for them. That got both Butch and Jerry asking him questions as to how he knew these two and he began at the beginning of what he had put together. They called and got a search warrant for both the house and the land behind the house where they did their target shooting. They picked up at least 50 empty casings from a 12 gauge and about the same amount of 20 gauge rounds. Then they searched the house. In the house they found about 5 rounds of 12 gauge 00buck and a drawer full of cheap watches with the Pegram Pharmacy price tags still on them in the boxes. They had enough evidence for arrest warrants and within 72 hours had all three arrested. One in Woodbine at sisters house along with mother and youngest boy and the other was caught in Texas at a brothers house and brought back to Tennessee.  Now, Tom thought he lead the law enforcement to all the evidence that lead to the arrest of the people that later he testified at their trial about towing their truck out of the mud and about them shooting the shotguns in the field behind the house where they found the empty casings  that later proved that the firing pin strike on the empty shells behind the house matched the firing pin strike of the rounds found at the scene of the shooting of Frankie and they had the watches from the burglary. They had zero leads until he spoke with the TBI with what he had figured out. There was a $25,000.00 reward leading to the arrest and conviction of the criminals. They were arrested, convicted and sentenced to life with out the possibility of parole. Tom never got a dime of that reward or was it ever offered to him and when he asked about it he was told that it was his civil duty to tell law enforcement if he had any information that may lead to catching the killers of a law enforcement officer and he should not want the reward but be proud they were caught with his help. Thing is he didn't really want it. He wanted it given to Frankie's wife and new born son but they never saw a dime of it either even after he asked that it be given to them. That was my reason for asking what I did about the rewards. I was just  wondering if anyone ever got them or are they just a rouge to get folks to talk?

Prayers for the officers family first off.  It sounds like a revenge deal more than just a random will shoot anyone deal. The officer probably took the same route home every night after his shift and they could plan it for just the right time to put down the brush just before he arrived. Could have been more than one involved. One waiting for him to show up coming down the road with cell phone to tell the other to place the brush in the road just before the officer arrived. Not enough information. Didn't say if he was shot with rifle or hand gun. Could have been 3 involved for that fact..............jmho

I would like to ask folks here just how many folks actually think that when a crime is committed and a large reward is offer for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the criminal are really paid? I know the $1,000.00 bucks is paid by Crime Stoppers but I'm talking the really bigger rewards anything $10,000.000 and hire. I do have a reason for asking.

Why wait till end of year??????? Hell LEAVE NOW!!!!!          I promise you will not be missed........................jmho

  Ahhhh, hmmmmm, Never mind, not even gonna go there...................... :hiding: :hiding:

Lost Shirley Temple yesterday and Cid Caesar today so wonder who else we will lose? 

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Hope he lives the rest of his life with Bubba in the Gray Bar Motel.....................jmho

  I think most every bomb maker leaves something behind that will lead to his capture. Even as smart as the uni Bomber was he finally got caught. If they ever figure out how to track the package itself and how it was delivered they will get their first lead...........jmho

Yea, early 67 was last year for them. My brother has one of every year they made them and if there was more than one body style that year he has them all. He use to own a huge body Shop in Rockdale Illinois and owned it for about 40 years and once he could afford it he began buying up wrecked Corvettes at auctions and running them through his body shop and rebuilding them with all factory parts and once done he would add them to his collection. As years went by he began buying his wife a new Corvette every year and at the end of that year he would send it through the shop and have it completely reconditioned and add it to the collection. At last count he had one of every Corvette made from 54 up. The 1954 Corvettes had 6 cylinders in them and screens over the headlights. Ford rushed the 55 T-Biirds onto the scene to compete with the Corvettes and the late 55 Corvettes has v-8's in them. At one time he offered to sell his entire collection to GM when they began looking to put the museum together but they said they could not afford it at the price he was asking but they did come and look at it. I was never that big into Corvettes but he was.

They did mention that it may have been a case of sending bomb to wrong house address also. I don't think it was but there is always a chance it was. They are telling everyone to be suspicious of an packages you might receive that you didn't order or don't recognize where it came from to call the authorities before messing with it. Hope we don't have a uni bomber that moved into the area.............jmho

    None of my brothers cars are in that list. He has a 1955 Corvette, 1967 Split window Stingray and 1959 Corvette in there and I just called him and he is considering pulling his out before they get damaged.

Sorry, but I cannot support this guys actions. Shooting a 17 year old kid just because he is playing music to loud it totally wrong on so many levels. I know there may be some things that are not being released to the news but the mans life was not in danger unless music can kill and turning around and walking away if the music annoyed him would have been the proper thing to do. I want to hear more because there has got to be more to this that is not being released or else the guy needs to go to prison for murder.............jmho

My brother up in Essex Illinois has three of his Corvettes on loan to that museum out of his collection. I hope none of his cars were included in that sink hole. You can bet he is sweating blood waiting to hear if any of his cars were in it.

I like him as an actor and liked him in movie   The Negotiator and several others  but I hate that darn "Whats in your Wallet"? commercial he is doing right now!!!!!!!.............jmho

  This is as good as I can help which ain't much but town of less than 1500 people and sitting on county line between two different counties sounds like a bit confusing cause that means everything in town would require two different elected officials for everything. Two county Sheriffs and the such..................jmho     http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vonore,_Tennessee

I grew up as a kid watching all her movies every Saturday morning. A great loss for sure.

Ok, I just got in touch with a buddy of mine that is a shotgun collector and has been for 50 years. He is more into Winchesters and has about 75 of the Winchester Model 12's in all different grades that were ever made but he does have some of the older Remington's and his educated guess is your gun was made back in 1957 which was to his knowledge the only year Remington did make a stainless steel 870 Pump. He said in about 1992 they did begin using a process called electroless nickle plating but is only used on the Magnum editions and came with laminated stocks and fore arms. He said if you do have one of the original stainless guns it is worth far more than the $250.00 you paid for it and since it is dressed in wood and not neoprene his opinion is you do have a 1957 model. That was his opinion but he said you could check further and make sure he is correct but he also added that the number you said was on the gun is an older style number compared to all the later models.