bersaguy

Ok so that means that Senators voting no were: Kelsey, Overbey, Finney, Stevens -- 4. and they were the reason we did not get these passed if I am correct????

Thanks for answering the question I was about to ask OS.  Do we know who killed the bills?

I honestly wonder if the things were fast enough to count the gun shots in the hoods of Chicago in one weekend. I hear people complaining all the time and read about it all the time about all of the shootings in Chicago on any given weekend yet the police seldom if ever can catch the shooter or shooters and can't seem to even find any witnesses to the shooting. Funny how that works up there. A shooting takes place in a park in broad daylight and there may be as many as 100 people in the park and not one person saw the shooter or the vehicle the shooter left in if he even left at all. the shooter was part of the crowd standing around when the police finally arrived for all the cops know. Thing is in Chicago people don't trust the police any more than they trust the shooters in many cases so they really have no place to turn unless it is to arm themselves and hope they are like Marshal Dillon and faster on the draw if time ever comes.......................jmho

Congratulations on your success getting on at Nissan. Great company to work for................ :up:  :up: 

Now thats funny right there........................ :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rock: :rock: :rock:

Well I was impressed at the weight of the gun. It looks a lot heavier than it is. It is actually does not much heavier then my 380's. That is what concerns me. The weight of the gun and the snappy reaction of the 40 Caliber cartridge discharge. I have had several people talk about them being great guns but snappy to shoot. I guess sending lead down range will give me my answer whether she goes in the safe or to a new home.................... :up: :up: Let me know when you can come shoot. I don't know what ranges are open on Sunday. The ones I use I know are not and I'm not sure if Sumner Gun and Supply is open on Sunday or not.

I was born in extreme west Cook County (Chicago) in a small town of about 5,000 people and we talked southern even up there. My mother was from Craggie Hope, Tennessee and between my mother and my Grand mother that also grew up in Craggie Hope we talked southern, ate southern, and learned all about the south in our home growing up so when we finally moved down here I was 17 and fit right on in like I had been in Tennessee all my life. People up north always would ask us if we were from the south and it was easier to say yes ma'am or yes Sir than it was to try and explain why we sounded the way we did. My mother use to say Born in the USA and southern by the grace of GOD............. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I agree with you 100% Sam. Problem is the people that do these things and buy this technology honestly think  it is the absolute best way to catch the bad guys because a damn good salesman told them it would even put hand cuffs on the bad guys!! The the guy that does the buying for the state or city or county is to stupid to boot the guy out of his office and stupid enough to drop several million for technology that does next to nothing to actually fight crime...............jmho

I have a few 40's and plenty of 380's. we can shoot up. When ya coming up?

I have two 380 Thunders that I love but ran up on this one on a trade. Gonna make a trip to the range soon and see if it remains in the family or goes to a new home. I don't really have the grip in my hands I once had and it all depends on if the recoil of a 40 is to much for my hands to deal with. I know my LCP give my grip a handful when I shoot it but it is not a big gun so I can deal with a 380 LCP.

My guess is it was someone from one of the Obama camps doing the survey and had nothing to do with the NRA-IRL fishing to try and find out what folks are really thinking!!!  But then I could be wrong. I get calls from crazy numbers all the time and if the number is not inn my phones phone book I don't answer it and let voice mail get it. Funny they want to talk to me but never leave a voice mail............... :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: 

Bersa Thunder 380   =  23 oz loaded 7+1 in tube   Ruger LCP 380 loaded = 11.4 oz        6+1 in tube

  Then according to the police you guys are!!!!!!shooting practice rounds with a high-powered firearm – which the police say is usually a precursor to a homicide........................ :stunned: :stunned: :stunned:

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Yep, for sure but I think a lot of hers is put on for show and not real. I saw another woman that sounded like her doing some furniture commercials a while back and she sounded fake also................jmho

Well, if you really would like an honest answer about tea just ask a Chinese or Japanese person what they think about Americans and tea.  I have a friend that is Chinese and was raise here in the states but was brought here at age two and is a US citizen the legal way. Any how he was raise in a strict Chinese lifestyle by a family that owns a few Chinese restaurants. They offer sweet tea and it is good tea, better than you will find at MCDonalds of KFC but they also offer the traditional unsweetened hot tea which is the only way the Chinese drink tea. We were talking about tea one day and he said his grand father always thought the American people had problems making up their minds on things and you could tell it by their tea.   They boil it to make it hot, put ice in it to make it cold, put sugar in it to make it sweet and lemon in it to make it sour which made them very confusing people to try and figure out for his grandfather. Kinda makes sense if you think about it................ :rofl: :rofl:

Divorce papers just have not been served is all............................ :shrug: :shrug:

Of course the left and all anti-gun people are going to spin his death every way they can. I am always sorry to hear of someones passing and his is no different. I just wish the the people in the anti gun organizations would have enough respect for his loss to let it go but what I am going to watch is how his wife and family reacts mostly. If they make the first spin then my respect will become nill and void for them all........................jmho

I do agree with most of what you said Nicky. I grew up in the 50's 60s and 70's and yea, they were some good times but I don't want to go back to them. I have my memories of them and that is good enough for me. What bothers me way more is what I see happening in  the country I so dearly love that my Children and grand children will have to grow up in that really bothers me. I don't want them to grow up in the lifestyles I did but I want them to have a chance and the gold ring like we all had back 60 years ago. Have a dream of actually owning a house and having a family and being able to provide for them because there are jobs out there for them. This administration has done really nothing to improve what they had when they took office almost 7 years ago but yet they like to talk like they have done so much but yet no one really sees a lot they have done for the good but can see a lot of damage they have done....................jmho

I have been noticing more and more that the many southern traditions are going away as more and more Yankees move south to retire. Way I figure it, we didn't invite them to retire in the south. That was their idea so when in Rome you do as the Romans or you get the hell out but don't expect the Romans to change their way of life to suit you. Thing is for some damn reason the Romans are changing and catering to these carpetbaggers from the north and for what reason I have no clue. I guess if you get far enough out of town you can still see some of the old traditions like when two vehicles pass each other they both wave howdy to each other and folks still help their neighbors when or if a problem arises that they need help. You don't see those things in the city any more and as the older generations pass away it becomes less and less a common practice.....................jmho

I didn't say I agreed with all of his points of view but was not going to edit it to suit my beliefs or to satisfy those of others. He was expressing his views......... :up:  

To the moderators:      If this belongs in Hive please move it     Written by a USMC Vet. (I can't argue with any of it. Passing it along as it was received.) >>   >>He wrote: >>   >>The American Dream ended (on November 6th, 2012) in Ohio. The second term of Barack Obama will be the final nail in the coffin for the legacy of the white Christian males who discovered, explored, pioneered, settled and developed the greatest Republic in the history of mankind. >>   >>A coalition of Blacks, Latinos, Feminists, Gays, Government Workers, Union Members, Environmental Extremists, The Media, Hollywood, uninformed young people, the "forever needy," the chronically unemployed, illegal aliens and other "fellow travelers" have ended Norman Rockwell's America. >>The Cocker Spaniel is off the front porch... The Pit Bull is in the back yard. The American Constitution has been replaced with Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" and Chicago shyster, David Axelrod, along with international Socialist George Soros will be pulling the strings on their beige puppet to bring us Act 2 of the New World Order. >>   >>Our side ran two candidates who couldn't even win their own home states, and Chris Christie helped Obama over the top with a glowing "post Sandy" tribute that elevated the "Commander-in-Chief" to Mother Teresa status. (Aside: with the way the polls were run, he didn't need any help!) >>People like me are completely politically irrelevant, and I will never again comment on or concern myself with the aforementioned coalition which has surrendered our culture, our heritage and our traditions without a shot being fired. >>   >>You will never again out-vote these people. It will take individual acts of defiance and massive displays of civil disobedience to get back the rights we have allowed them to take away. It will take Zealots, not moderates & shy not reach-across-the-aisle RINOs to right this ship and restore our beloved country to its former status. >>   >>Those who come after us will have to risk their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor to bring back the Republic that this generation has timidly frittered away due to "white guilt" and political correctness... An American Veteran......... Semper-Fi >>   >>Got the guts to pass it on? >>You betcha!!!!!

I have to agree , it did belittle the clowns that were used........................jmho

Yep, I will not argue that cars maybe somewhat safer but when it comes to some of the repairs it is totally ridiculous and it is really not your neighborhood mechanics fault. I owned a family operated Auto Repair center for almost 20 years before turning it over to my son and grandsons when I went disabled and I saw coming what they have been going through since I got out coming. Just about 2 years ago they had to purchase their 4 generation computer Scanner/ Programmer to be able to continue working on cars and light trucks. It cost them right at $3,200.00 because they needed it to  begin programing the transmissions in the newer cars after rebuilding them to make the compatible with the On Board computers in the cars. My Grandson was having an issue with his 2000 Dodge Intrepid shutting off on him while do 70 mph on interstate. Check engine light came on so he ran by Auto Zone to have them scan it and tell him what the problem was since they do it for free. Thing is those computer scanner they use that might cost $129.00 told him it had an intermittent miss code. Well lets see............ :ugh: :ugh: that really narrowed it down. It continued to cut off on him at all speeds so he took it up to his uncle and my son put his $3,000.00 computer on it and it showed that the Crankshaft Sensor was intermittently dropping out causing the on board computer to shut the car off. It would start back but for how long was the question.  My son ordered a Crankshaft Sensor and installed it and the sensor was $44.97 and took 20 minutes to put on. I called the Dodge Dealer here locally to get and estimate on how much it would cost to get a crankshaft sensor installed on a 2000 Intrepid and the part was $89.97, Computer scam to confirm it needed the Sensor. I told them it had already been scanned and we knew what the problem was and I was told that they didn't take another companies word for a problem so they would charge $55.00 to scan it and labor to install the Sensor  $109.00. I ask them what their labor rate was in the shop and I was told $70.00 per book hour. According to the All Data online labor manual the repair called for .57 hrs which is not quite 1 hour. At $70 and hour the labor should have been $59.80 and not $109.00  So all I can say is welcome to the world of Technology. You have honest mechanics and garages and then you have the rest of them such as the dealer I called. Now My son said if his Nephew would have been a customer off the street the repair costs to do the repair would have been about  $128.00 + tax.   At the dealer the same repair would have been 253.97 + tax. They are working very hard at putting auto repair centers like my sons out of business forcing people to depend on dealers for all their car repairs. About 7 years ago the manufacturers made it a rule that the only people that wold have access to the on board Computer codes for repairing automobiles in a major move to put independent garages out of business and a bunch of them filed a class action suit against the manufacturers and the garages won the case because the Supreme court said that for the manufacturers to not share their information would be creating a monopoly and found in favor of the garages so the manufacturers were forced to sell the information to the manufacturers of the testing and repair equipment companies like Snap-on and All data and other companies the repair codes. That is when the Scanners went from about $300.00 to $3,000.00 for independent garages. That is why I drive a 1997 Jeep. Something an average Joe can work on. If I was to buy a new vehicle it would be one with a 100% Bumper to Bumper Warranty for 100,000 miles. I would pay to have oil changes and tires and the rest would be up to them to fix...............jmho  

I think Bars would be cheaper than that type of glass your talking about TDR and if I was protecting an inventory of fire arms Bars on the windows and doors painted a nice shinny black would not stop me from going into a gun store to shop if I were a customer looking for a gun or accessories...............jmho