bersaguy

I did not mean anything negative at all about the Patriot Guard and I have the utmost respect for them and even know many of them. I said many people that don't know the difference would assume that because they ride in a large group they are a gang and don't know how to separate a Gang from a Club. Like I said I meant no disrespect at all towards the Patriot Guard. If I could still ride I would ride with them............... :up: :up:

Ok , so Sturgis has had a few incidents but if you consider the number of bikers that gather for it you would have expected a lot more than that over the 75 years. I have a friend that rides a lot and he is what is called a Free Rider to the gangs because he has friends in a few or them so he can ride with them but not wear their colors or patches. He use to go to Sturgis every year but age has finally got hold of him and his old Nam injuries are finally showing up. He only ride local now but he stopped by yesterday and we had a long talk about all of this. I learned a lot about the gangs I didn't know. I didn't even know you could ride with them as a Free rider till yesterday. Just have to follow a few rules to do so. Like you cannot ride in first 6 positions as they are reserved for the Gang leaders and you cannot pass them. When they stop, you stop. You can exit the ride at any time just by pulling off on side road with right arm raised. Sorry but he is my friend but his likes on somethings don't blend well and riding with a gang even in a Free Ride would not be for me.........jmho

Quote   from grady   "The shooting test was so easy that the hardest part was reloading the magazine.  :rofl: You'll be fine."   I wish I would have known a head of time what the shooting drills consisted of so I could have brought extra magazines for it already loaded. The particular firearm I was using I had 5 back up mags for and my buddy has 5 for his and I could have borrowed them............ :rofl: :rofl:

I'm guessing it is really cow hide and they are using a Bull Hide sales pitch because most folks think of bulls as being tough and rough and most people don't know about real bull hide. What really matters most is if you like it and it serves your needs. Everything else is irrelevant........................jmho                      Oh Yea, Nice Belt................ :2cents: 

Do me a favor and don't beat your self before you even go to the class by beating yourself up so much before you even go. You will pass it like a cake walk.................................... :up: :up:

I was raise from age 13 till serving my country on a Farm/Ranch in Cheatham county and every fall we would have a neighborhood killing weekend and several neighbors would gather at the farm and bring their animals and it would be hog and beef killing time from 4AM on Saturday till it was all done late Sunday night. Women worked in the house and men outside. Was like an assembly line. We would put down a heifer at about 1000 lbs and three hogs about 225/250 each. It was my job to put each animal down My old Remington 22 single shot never made a hog squeal and every cow went down with out a kick. Now as I look back I don't know now if I could do that again but back then it was just what you do to eat on a farm/ranch along with a huge garden............... :up:  

A friend of mine was carjacked in Chicago a few years back. A guy jumped in passenger side with a knife and my buddy turned off his car pulled his keys and got out leaving the guy sitting in the car. The guy jumped out and ran away. He said he would have done the same thing if the guy had a gun. They don't expect you to exit the car and just leave them sitting there. Better to let them have the car than get shot..................jmho

  Thanks Omega and I did ask for opinions but I didn't expect such a discussion on what I would call a 1/2 in the rate of 1-10 on a danger scale. Maybe if anything ever happens again I might word my post differently............... :up:

Ever notice that Sturgess Motor cycle meet has been going on for about 40 years and it never has any issues that make the news. That is the biggest Biker meet in the country every year and never has any trouble to make the news................ :shrug:

After going back and reading my original post again and remembered back their was on one talker and he only said one sentence but I don't think he was talking for the group because the rest of them had already began to move back away from my jeep.  After going back and searching my memory I still think only two of them may have been over 12 but not over 14. I think everything I did to down play the situation was in order and I still don't think it was something that require police action...............jmho

I'm sure my adrenal and BP would have went up had I really saw or felt a real threat but there were only two that were that close and having anything to say and the others were a lot farther away and you could almost tell they were ready to run if things escalated. I am just glad it ended the way it did but it does cause me to be a little more aware of my surroundings better. I was not looking out the door of the market as I walked out and Kasey's barking caused me to look up as I opened the door to the market............ :up: 

Maybe it would have been news worthy if they had actually blew up a Mosque or two and Killed a few people. Just talking about doing it doesn't count I guess?.......................... :shrug: :shrug:

Badda Bing Badda Boom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

All biker groups are not gangs. Some are and some are not. Just because you see a group of bikers out for a ride does not mean they are outlaws. I guess many folks think the Patriot Riders are a gang to because they ride in a group and attend all of the Veteran funerals and fly American flags and wear leathers......................... :shrug: :shrug:

I am very glad you are safe and sorry you had to go through that but being a dog lover myself I would have probably done the same thing. Will be glad when you get your HCP so you can feel safer................ :up:

The front 2 which seemed to be the older ones where about 15+ feet from me. The others were about 20+ feet. Once I had my hand on my gun with hammer back I could have shot both of them in about 2-3 seconds if they would have moved in my direction and I felt in danger. I and a buddy of mine have practiced such types of scenario's about 100 + times and I have pretty well tweaked it. The first thing I had going for me is my adrenalin and BP was not on the rise and my thought cycle was at 100%. That is one thing that I can thank my Uncle Sam for was that training in self control which I was able to keep all these years. I don't panic and my thought cycle is always working in a calm but alert manner. I'm just very glad it turned out as it did. I would have hated to cause Cookeville so much trouble when Al Sharpton and the hate gang showed up showed up.

A pirate walked into a bar, and the bartender said, "Hey, I haven't seen you in a while. What happened? You look terrible." "What do you mean?" said the pirate, "I feel fine." "What about the wooden leg? You didn't have that before." "Well," said the pirate, "We were in a battle, and I got hit with a cannon ball, but I'm fine now." The bartender replied, "Well, OK, but what about that hook? What happened to your hand?" The pirate explained, "We were in another battle. I boarded a ship and got into a sword fight. My hand was cut off. I got fitted with a hook but I'm fine, really." "What about that eye patch?" "Oh," said the pirate, "One day we were at sea, and a flock of birds flew over. I looked up, and one of them s--t in my eye." "You're kidding," said the bartender. "You couldn't lose an eye just from bird s--t." "It was my first day with the hook."

Believe me with all my heart. If this or anything similar ever happens to me I will call the Police. I have learn my lesson and many folks have made good posts as to why I should have called them......................... :up: :up:

That was funny for sure and I am glad to officer had such a good sense of humor with the old man......................... :up: :up:

I would not have actually called these kids a Mob. I looked into the faces of each of them and I could tell that some of them may have been 12 and could tell they were not comfortable being involved and were standing back farther than the two up front. Once the guy up front turned around and began to walk away those in the back had already began to turn. I at no time felt it would escalate once they knew I was armed as the eyes on the two up front went to almost golf ball size as I eased the hammer back like WOW was not expecting that!!!! Really folks, it was not anything like a flash mob type thing and in all honesty I don't think they were really looking to cause an issue but bluff a little and in doing so they got a learning experience to put in their memory banks for their futures......................jmho

I don't shop or eat in them but I know this one has been here over 10 years and there are a couple others nearby according to google search.   http://www.local.com/business/results/gallatin-tn/boston-market-restaurants/

We have a Boston's Market right here in Gallatin, 35 miles north east of Nashville.......................... :up:

I also was paying close attention to the holsters the Victim was given but I was also paying attention to the fact that they were all using a block style gun but was most compelling to me was the long white long sleeve shirts all of the class was wearing. Honestly, how many people that carry concealed conceal with a long white T-shirt that has a very good chance of hinging the gun up. I wear a t-shirt tucked and a light short sleeve button up cover shirt with only 1 button closed in middle of shirt. I can open that button and or raise that shirt and have no fear of having trouble gaining complete access to my gun. That whole scenario was a joke and rigged to make those students look dumb..................jmho 

I have never had the privilege of trying to carry and of the block designed square pistols in an IWB holster but have seen  a few of my friends that do. To me it looks very uncomfortable but that's just me but all of them said it does take some getting use to. The guns are just FAT is all i can say and again maybe it's just my view on it. I just like a sleek looking comfortable fitting hand gun that I can carry concealed outside the waistband with just a light cover shirt and not print. That is why my choice is the Bersa's....................jmho

  Had it escalated to the point I was required to actually remove my Bersa from my holster, even if the kids all scattered and ran, at that point I would have dialed 911 and waited on police to arrive and filed a report. I'm not sure but I am betting the incident was caught on at least two or three area camera's. Maybe the market I was at even had one. I didn't bother to look. I was also not them only customer in this market. It was fairly busy and I am sure someone else may have witnessed what took place and no one else bothered to call 911. That tells me that it was not necessary because it all happened in a matter of 45 seconds to 1 minute and they were walking away. But I do promise I will call next time if this ever happens again because many good points have been made about first caller is from Victim..................... :up: