JohnC

Awesome! :usa:

These all look awesome! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

So my stripped MEGA MATEN upper and lower set, when D&T registers it, will be registers as "other" instead of rifle because it is not configured as either a pistol or rifle yet? Interesting if I got it right. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[quote name='TMF' timestamp='1355092045' post='857409'] Not being a smartass, but it would be 1/2 MOA no matter the distance. So at 400 meters it would be 2 inches... in a vacuum anyhow. [/quote] Sorry. Forgot about MOA multiplying over distance!

Have you guys written comments to the BATFE yet? Are you going to if you haven't already?

[quote name='trevorst' timestamp='1355083953' post='857329'] I have a lothar walther on my ar15 also have a Wilson barrel on another. Both exceptional barrels, my 308 is dpms sass not sure who outsources it for them. My friend with the bartlein his weighs much less than mine and shoots better. Keep in mind my sass shoots sub moa very easily and would average .5 moa most days when I do my part. I think you reach a point where you don't get as much return on cost.... Have another friend with Ranier arms ultra match and it shoots very good also. [/quote] So it shoots .50 MOA at 100 yards? How does it do at 300, 400, etc., if you have took it out that far? Is this done with hand loads or factory loaded ammo? Match grade ammo?

Get a set of Barrett Zero Gap rings from outpost... My setup on the 50 bmg. http://streetntrack.net/gallery/image_page.php?album_id=3&image_id=51

That mag being cheap and quality makes me want a Glock now! Lol I think a Glock and 4 of those mags would do me just fine! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I watch his stuff. Cool dude. Seems to give an honest reviews. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[quote name='trevorst' timestamp='1354983475' post='856891'] GAP10 uses a Bartlein 5r barrel. Pretty sure that's the holy grail of AR10's. Myself I have a dpms SASS barrel and it shoots lights out, and I didn't have to wait a year and spend a small fortune. One day I will get around to posting group pics. [/quote] I've been directed to all these brands so far: Kreiger, Rainier/Pac-nor, Fulton/Criterion, Bartlein 5r barrel, Brux, Hart, Obermeyer, Douglas, Noveske, Shilen, Schnieder (USMC uses them), Rock Creek, Lothar Walther, and JP Enterprise. Which really is the best is what I'd like to know. LOL For a rookie, this is going to take some time to research from scratch!

[quote name='173rdABN' timestamp='1354982446' post='856883'] what type of ammo will you be shooting? weight? ranges you plan on shooting at? do you reload? will you be using a comp/break, or can? [/quote] I'll probably reload in the future once I get setup. But in the meantime, I'll be shooting factory loads. What kind? I have no idea. I've not done any research yet. But I'm pretty sure I don't want to shoot anything that would need a special chambering. I'd rather be able to shoot nearly any 308 ammo out of it.

I agree. I'm flaming pissed right now. This would for instance, screw over FCSA guys who use brass bullets in competition shoots. It would also screw us out of having cheap military surplus reloaded ammunition such as AP, API, APIT, Incendiary, etc., for the 50 BMG as it says they want to move the interpretation of the AP ban to all pistol and rifle ammunition. According to that read above, they would probably go after green tip (steel tip) 5.56 NATO as well because it has steel in it. :livid:

BATFE Taking Comments on "Sporting Purposes" Exemption to "Armor Piercing Ammunition" Law Until Dec. 31 [quote] The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is taking public comments on its website until December 31, with regard to how it should determine what types of projectiles meet the "sporting purposes" exception to the federal "armor piercing ammunition" law. At this time, the question centers primarily around rifle-caliber projectiles made of metals harder than lead, such as the Barnes Bullets solid brass hunting bullets. Under the law, adopted in 1986, "armor piercing ammunition" is defined as "a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other substances) from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium." A second definition, added in the 1990s, includes "a full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile." Because handguns have been made in certain rifle calibers, many bullets that were designed originally for rifles also "may be used in a handgun." If such projectiles are made of the metals listed in the law, they are restricted as "armor piercing ammunition" unless they meet one of the law's exemptions. Being considered at this time is the exemption for "a projectile which the Attorney General finds is primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes." Last week, BATFE met separately with gun control activist groups, firearm industry groups, and groups representing hunters and other gun owners. The latter meeting included the NRA; Safari Club International; representatives of state wildlife agencies; and firearm and ammunition importers. BATFE has expressed two opinions about the law and exemption that warrant particular scrutiny. First, BATFE suggested that it believes that the "armor piercing ammunition" law was intended to affect all ammunition capable of penetrating soft body armor worn by law enforcement officers. NRA reminded BATFE that the law was intended to protect law enforcement officers against the potential threat posed a very narrowly-defined category of projectiles: those, such as KTW and Arcane, which by virtue of their hard metal construction were designed and intended to be used by law enforcement officers to shoot through hard objects, such as automobile glass and doors, when fired at the velocities typical of handgun-caliber ammunition fired from handguns. Neither before nor since the law's enactment, has an officer been killed due to such a bullet penetrating soft body armor. NRA further pointed out that the legislative history of the law clearly shows that members of Congress, including the sponsor of the law in the House, Rep. Mario Biaggi (D-N.Y.), a decorated former NYPD police officer, expressly did not want the law to restrict rifle-caliber bullets that happen to also be useable in handguns chambered to use rifle cartridges. Second, BATFE says it considers projectiles to not be exempt under the "sporting purposes" test if they "pose a threat to public safety and law enforcement." BATFE also expressed concern that since the law was adopted, various new rifle-caliber handguns have been invented. On that point, NRA made clear that the sporting purposes exemption is straightforward: it applies to all projectiles that are "primarily intended for sporting purposes"--nothing more, and nothing less. Under the law, a projectile would be exempt if it is primarily intended for sporting purposes, even if it is secondarily intended for self-defense or some other legitimate purpose. Furthermore, the law does not condition its restrictive language or its "sporting purposes" exemption on the design of a particular handgun; the law is concerned only with specific projectiles that can be used in handguns. NRA cautioned the BATFE against interpreting the law in a manner more restrictive than Congress intended. For more information on ATF's position and information on how to submit comments by the Dec. 31 deadline, go to www.atf.gov/firearms/industry/. [/quote] http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/articles/2012/batfe-taking-comments-on-sporting-purposes-exemption-to-armor-piercing-ammunition-law-until-dec-31.aspx

[quote name='RobertNashville' timestamp='1354982619' post='856884'] I appreciate some of the should or shouldn't do it replies but Honestly, I don't understand how some of you justify owning a firearm Much less carry one in if you are that worried about lawsuits. [/quote] I don't carry. This is mainly a "poke holes in paper" hobby for me. Now if someone is armed and threatens my life or my families at home, they're screwed.

Outpost Armory usually has a set of 30mm rings. :yes:

This should be a start.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zPkTItOXuN0

Too much liability in loaning a gun to someone else, no matter how good your intentions are. What would you do if he shot someone in self defense, but the perp sues you for his injuries, pain and suffering? In this case, id just get him something really cheap, make him promise to keep it, and register it in his name Fwiw, my Dad felt sorry for one of my uncles that fell on hard times and bought him another Remington 700 30-06 and he ended up selling that gun too. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[quote name='personDJ' timestamp='1354902335' post='856529'] I read today that unemployment rate is lower now than anytime in the last year [/quote] Much like it was reported before the election, there was something like 20,000 folks not counted as unemployed because California supposedly didn't send the info in time to the BLS. These numbers from the BLS just do not represent the tons of jobs lost last month. Thousands got laid off, some places closed up, and a lot of folks got reduced work hours because the new Obamacare law making full time 30hrs.

[quote name='mcurrier' timestamp='1354836143' post='856087'] It didn't rise from Oct. to Nov., it never went down. That 7.4% is a bogus number. For the past 48 months it has been steady, well... steadily rising. But then! October. The month before the [i]election[/i], it miraculously goes down (just to help someone who's name begins with 0), then it goes back up??? GIVE ME A BREAK!!! [/quote] It had to rise nonetheless as lost of businesses laid off and some closed.

[quote name='6.8 AR' timestamp='1354829451' post='856038'] It's much higher than that, but it's all in how you count. In Washington DC, they count really funny, most of the time. It's also going to get much worse. [/quote] I agree it is much higher than reported. I also see this getting worse over the next few months as well.

Seasonally adjusted unemployment rose to 8.3% last month, from 7.4% in October. [url=http://www.gallup.com/poll/159104/unadjusted-unemployment-shoots-back.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=syndication&utm_content=morelink&utm_term=All%20Gallup%20Headlines%20-%20Economy]U.S. Unadjusted Unemployment Shoots Back Up[/url] Also, we're back to 2008 recession hiring intentions: U.S. small-business owners' net hiring intentions for the next 12 months plunged to -4 in November, matching the lowest level recorded by the Wells Fargo/Gallup Small Business Index. The previous low was also -4 in [b][u]November 2008[/u][/b]. [url=http://www.gallup.com/poll/159098/small-business-owners-hiring-intentions-plunge.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=syndication&utm_content=morelink&utm_term=All%20Gallup%20Headlines%20-%20Economy]U.S. Small-Business Owners' Hiring Intentions Plunge[/url] Higher taxes going to help the economy as the Keynesian economists believe? We'll see, but I don't think so and I believe this is the beginnings of the proof it doesn't. :coffee:

Guess the spam-bot filter has been cracked....

LLLOOOOLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!

I have my MEGA MATEN upper and lower receiver set on order. They're on backorder, so I have at least 4 months until it ships out to D&T Arms according to Mega. That said... I'm now spending the time in between tying to figure out how to build this rifle to be a nice tack driving AR10 308. I know it depends on the man behind the gun, the ammo, etc., but all that aside, who makes the absolute most accurate barrel for a 308 AR10 using the Mega Maten receiver?

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