JohnC

In to vote.... :up:

I just don't look for ammo anymore because all the panic has driven up prices and supply is scarce. But I got curious to see if Walmart had M855 and what their price was, so I stopped by the sporting goods on my way to get some new wiper blades. I glanced, no M855. O-well. Then the Cashiers said, "you looking for 22's?" Me, you have 22's? You got some behind the counter or something? Cashier, no they're right there in the cabinet on the bottom left. Me, oh cool! I'll take a box. :up: Came back the next day to get a box for my Dad and of course it was all wiped out. O-well. I'm averaging finding about a box or two in stock locally for non-price-gouging msrp per year now, so whatever. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

What Gen Glock is this?

I'm just going to sit back and watch the panicked clowns gobble up ammo that's inflated 3x to 4x what it costs normally. lol

Is your beetle a TDI?

M&P Shield 40S&W Glock 21 45acp Springfield XDs 45acp FN FNX Tactical 45acp FN Five-seveN 5.7x28mm S&W .357 mag revolver   to name a few...

That was great! :rofl:

I need that trigger! :dunno:

Geissle SD3G https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvr0rSaFgZE

Pinned! :up:

Updated Missouri link.....

Yeah, you people need to stop burning fossil fuels because global warming caused the polar vortex and is to blame for the extreme weather and cold. Climate Change is upon us!  :panic:                                         Seriously, I googled and some news outlets are passing off global warming as the cause of the cold, snow and ice we're having. :rofl:

NFAFA's TENNESSEE DTP REFORM BILL   Senator Mike Bell (R) has introduced SB181 and Representative Jeremy Faison (R) has introduced HB0136 the NFAFA's reform to the Defense to Prosecution (DTP) statute in Tennessee. SB181 has been assigned to the Senate Judiciary Committee and we should see a hearing on this bill in early March. HB0136 has been assigned to the House Judiciary Civil Justice Subcommittee and a hearing will be scheduled in the coming days. Please contact the members of the Senate Judiciary Committee and RESPECTFULLY AND POLITELY request that they vote YES on SB181. Once HB0136 is scheduled for a hearing we will alert you to call the members of the House committee to urge their support.   What is a Defense to Prosecution Statute? (DTP) Some states regulate NFA items using what is known as a "Defense to Prosecution" (DTP) statute. Instead of registered NFA items being 100% legal, they are actually illegal, and a DTP provides the registered owner a way to defend himself or herself in court if arrested for possessing a short-barreled rifle, suppressor, machine gun, or short-barreled shotgun. Oddly enough, this is the case in a number of otherwise gun-friendly states like Texas, Oklahoma, Tennessee and Alaska. Under a DTP statute, possession of an item regulated by the National Firearms Act (NFA) is technically illegal; however, criminal courts are required to accept the defense that the item was possessed in compliance with the National Firearms Act. The NFA Freedom Alliance maintains that DTP statutes place a draconian burden of proof on gun owners and that, because law enforcement officers are not judges and have no authority to rule on the legitimacy of a criminal defense, officers in DTP states are more likely to arrest the owner of a properly registered NFA item and let a court settle the matter. Furthermore, DTP statutes turn the burden of proof on its head. Instead of a prosecutor proving guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, the defendant is required to prove his or her innocence. This should NOT be the case in gun-friendly states! Although these laws are rarely enforced, when they are, it can be financially devastating, and emotionally taxing on the defendant. The NFA Freedom Alliance is committed to fixing these statutes in as many states as possible. We currently have bills to fix the DTP laws in Texas, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and Alaska. But we can't do it without the support of our members, so please join us today and consider donating to our lobbying fund.

I guess he figured out the answer to that on his own! And that made my night! Thanks! :rofl: Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Prayers for you... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I looked for it and didn't see it. Got a link with quote of what you're talking about? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Edited in Illinois**

The Gun Question: Why is gun ownership inquiry showing up on routine patient history paperwork? By Rachael Van Horn CNHI NEWS SERVICE | Posted: Friday, February 20, 2015 10:17 pm EDITOR’S NOTE: Over the last four weeks, CNHI reporter Rachael Van Horn has been doing research into why some local physicians offices and hospitals now include a question about gun ownership. The question is included between questions related to health history. The question is generally asked, if it is asked at all, while the patient is in the exam room and typically by a nurse who is inputting health history information into the patient’s personal health information file or on a computer. It is not asked at all in physician’s offices here. Van Horn has been searching for the origin of the question, why it is being asked and since this information is being collected and most times by physicians who care for Medicaid and Medicare patients, what is being done with the information once it is collected. The story is protracted and will be a continuing series as more information becomes available. We want to offer readers some answers about just why this question is almost always now, routinely included on programs created by healthcare information software companies who market worldwide to healthcare facilities and physician’s offices. By Rachael Van Horn CNHI NEWS SERVICE WOODWARD — Like many people over the last several weeks, Angela Squibb of Woodward caught a small case of the flu and when her symptoms didn’t subside, she went to the doctor. “But what surprised me, was that while they were taking my medical history, right after they asked me if any of my family had a history of cancer, diabetes etc . . . then they asked me if I had guns in my home,” Squibb said. According to Squibb, the question made her uncomfortable. “I felt like if I refused to answer the question, they would just make the assumption I had guns and so I just said no. I felt it wasn’t any of their business and I didn’t see how it applied to me having a cold,” she said. When asked about the gun question, the director of the clinic where Squibb was a patient, stated they do not ask that question on their intake paper work, despite the question being confirmed by the patient. “All I can tell you is we do not ask about guns on our intake paperwork,” the clinic director said. The clinic’s name is being withheld because the reporter did not personally see or hear the question being asked. The gun question coming from physicians or nurses as they check patients in is nothing new. It has long been an issue discussed in lively and even aggressive internet forums as far back as 2005. Mostly, at that early time, the question surfaced in densely populated regions. It appears to only just now be surfacing here. But there hasn’t been much hard journalism done on the subject. That’s because drilling down and actually finding printed evidence of the question and then uncovering the origins of the question is harder than getting a line on the location of Jimmy Hoffa. However, the question does exist. Among many outlets nationally the gun question is a part of the patient health information gathering software, called Electronic Medical Records. Locally for example, the gun question appears within the intake paperwork on the EMR system used by Woodward Regional Hospital. The use of EMRs by all heath care facilities was encouraged and incentivized by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (otherwise known as the bailout). The law included incentives, such as up to $44,000 per physician if they adopted the use of EMRs in their clinics. But it also set out penalties for those physicians who failed to adopt EMRs by 2015. The penalties include reduced Medicaid and Medicare payments to physicians who fail to adopt the systems over old-style paper health records. Woodward Regional Hospital officials were not aware when originally asked about the existence of the gun question. But when spokeswoman Lori Messenger checked into the matter, she found that the question did show up on intake paperwork. “The question is there but physicians are not required to ask the question” Messenger said. Woodward Regional Hospital staff were helpful and forthcoming about assisting with the efforts to discover the origins of the question. Messenger is correct. Originally when the Affordable Care Act was passed in 2010, the National Rifle Association was invited or allowed to include language within the ACA that expressly forbade any routine collection of gun ownership data by physicians, or other healthcare facilities. When the ACA was passed, that language was legally challenged as unconstitutionally limiting the right of a physician to freely communicate with the patient. And in early 2013, President Obama announced an executive action to “protect the right of clinicians to talk to their patients about gun safety.” The law can neither forbid a physician to collect gun information for compel them to collect gun ownership information. The issue becomes murky though, when it is not the physician, in many cases researched by the Woodward News, who is initiating the question. In fact, physicians and their staff interviewed by the Woodward News did not know the medical software program even prompted such a question. These forms of software are created by such companies as Athena Health, who produces the software used by Woodward Regional Hospital. There are more than 20 other large and small private companies who produce similar software for medical outlets all over the world. Numerous calls to the top EMR software companies including Athena Health, Cerner and Meditech were either not returned or their officials declined to comment on the record about why they routinely include the question on the prepared software. The issue has many people, both gun enthusiasts and others who simply resent what they feel is an issue of privacy, inquiring about the legitimacy of the gun question being asked when they are most vulnerable — while sick and in the doctor’s office. Where does this question come from? Is it legal and why is it turning up, sort of inconspicuously wedged between other seemingly pertinent medical questions," asked Woodward Firearms Instructor Calvin Nelson. “While I have not been asked that question myself, it does bother me to know that they would be asking me that question,” Nelson said. “I’m sure it is not any of their business and what does it have to do with my sinus infection.” The first thing that is really bothering Nelson is that he doesn’t understand the reason for the question and who might be behind it. According to the research conducted thus far by the Woodward News, information has been unearthed regarding who is not responsible, at least officially, for the existence of the question. According to officials with the Center for Medicaid and Medicare Services (CMS), they have no requirement for such a question. There are however, a list of additional questions requested for physicians to ask if they wish to receive something called an incentive payment as mentioned earlier. The incentive payment can be as much as $44,000 for physicians who utilize Electronic Medical Record Systems and ask the additional questions. While it is wedged in among the other health questions required by CMS, the gun question is not among those questions that CMS requires for physicians, if they are to earn the incentive payment. But the question sticks out to people like Squibb, who just couldn’t help noticing how out of place it seemed. A peculiar finding in the research conducted by the Woodward News is the specificity of the question and how it appears in nearly the exact same format, regardless of which software company produces the program. This could lead many to a final supposition that there is a single source behind the requirement or request to include the question, as well as how to word such a potentially controversial question. One possible source for the inclusion of the question on mass produced health information gathering systems is the American Academy of Pediatrics. The AAP’s October 2012 Report included a recommendation to physicians to include the gun question, according to a news report filed by Chicago Tribune Reporter John Kass. Kass’s story in a 2013 edition of the Chicago Tribune chronicled an Illinois teen and his parent’s experience in early 2013, when they took their child to the hospital for a tonsil infection. At some point, the parents were asked to leave the exam room and while out, the physicians asked the teen if there were guns in his home. According to Kass’s story: “That October report cites firearms as one of the top three killers of American children and reasons that questions about availability of guns would allow medical staff to tell parents to keep guns out of their homes, or at least out of childrens’ reach.” Kass added this quote from the AAP’s report to his story — “Child health care professionals,” the October report reads, “can and should provide effective leadership in efforts to prevent gun violence, injury and death.” The question and its origins are of less importance though, to Oklahoma Senior U.S. Sen. Jim Inhofe. Concerned about a possible need to protect Medicaid and Medicare patients from an inappropriate use of their information, Inhofe ordered his staff to send a letter to the Center for Medicaid and Medicare Services asking about the collection of the gun ownership information. More pointedly, Inhofe wants to know what agencies, such as Medicaid and Medicare are doing with this information once it is collected. “Whether or not this information is required, it appears to be being collected,” said Inhofe Communications Director Donelle Harder. “The question to me that seems most alarming is that we already see that this is on these forms. But what is happening with this information?" The Gun Question: Why is gun ownership inquiry showing up on routine patient history paperwork? - The Edmond Sun: Lifestyles Discuss....

Made this the other day. It has links to each state that has reciprocity with TN. Some states don't list much, but this will get you as close as you can get to the right info if you need to research laws, regulations, etc., pertaining to carrying in other states that recognize TN Handgun Permits. States Recognizing TN Permits Alabama http://www.ago.state.al.us/Page-Gun-Reprocity-Law Alaska* http://dps.alaska.gov/statewide/PermitsLicensing/reciprocity.aspx Arizona* http://www.azdps.gov/Services/Concealed_Weapons/Reciprocity/ Arkansas* http://asp.arkansas.gov/services-and-programs/detail/concealed-handgun-licensing Colorado https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/cbi/chpreciprocity Delaware http://www.attorneygeneral.delaware.gov/criminal/concealedweapons.shtml Florida* http://www.freshfromflorida.com/Divisions-Offices/Licensing/Concealed-Weapon-License/States-Recognizing-Florida-License Georgia* http://dps.georgia.gov/georgias-firearm-permit-reciprocity Idaho http://www.ag.idaho.gov/concealedWeapons/concealedWeapons_index.html#Do%20I%20have%20to%20take%20any%20classes%20to%20obtain%20a%20concealed%20weapons%20permit%20in%20Idaho Indiana http://iot.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2190/kw/ISP%20Firearms/related/1 Iowa https://www.legis.iowa.gov/DOCS/ACO/IC/LINC/Chapter.724.pdf Kansas http://ag.ks.gov/public-safety/concealedcarry/out-of-state-license-recognition Kentucky* http://kentuckystatepolice.org/ccdw/reciprocity.html Louisiana* http://www.lsp.org/handguns.html#recip Maine http://www.maine.gov/dps/msp/licenses/weapons_permits.html Michigan* http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,1607,7-123-1591_3503_4654-10957--,00.html Mississippi* http://www.dps.state.ms.us/firearms/firearms-permit-unit/firearms-permits-faqs/ Missouri http://ago.mo.gov/Concealed-Weapons/ Montana https://dojmt.gov/enforcement/concealed-weapons/ Nebraska https://statepatrol.nebraska.gov/media/10076/recognitionofconcealedhandgunpermits.pdf Nevada http://www.nvrepository.state.nv.us/ccw_changes.shtml New Hampshire* http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/nhsp/ssb/permitslicensing/plupr.html New Mexico* http://www.dps.state.nm.us/index.php/nm-concealed-carry/reciprocity-agreeements/ North Carolina* http://www.ncdoj.gov/About-DOJ/Law-Enforcement-Training-and-Standards/Law-Enforcement-Liason/Concealed-Weapon-Reciprocity.aspx North Dakota http://www.ag.nd.gov/BCI/CW/reciprocity.htm Oklahoma http://www.ok.gov/osbi/Handgun_Licensing/Frequently_Asked_Questions/index.html#Q18 Ohio* http://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/Law-Enforcement/Concealed-Carry/Concealed-Carry-Reciprocity-Agreements Pennsylvania* https://www.attorneygeneral.gov/Media_and_Resources/Firearm_Reciprocity_Agreements/ South Carolina* http://www.sled.sc.gov/Reciprocity1.aspx?MenuID=CWP South Dakota* https://sdsos.gov/services-for-individuals/concealed-pistol-permits/reciprocity-agreements.aspx Texas* http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/RSD/CHL/Legal/Reciprocity/index.htm# Utah http://publicsafety.utah.gov/bci/FAQother.html Vermont http://ago.vermont.gov/divisions/criminal-division/gun-laws.php Virginia* http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_Reciprocity.shtm West Virginia* http://www.ago.wv.gov/gunreciprocity/Pages/default.aspx Wisconsin http://www.doj.state.wi.us/dles/cib/conceal-carry/reciprocity Wyoming* http://wyomingdci.wyo.gov/dci-criminal-justice-information-systems-section/concealed-firearms-permits/cfp-faq * Indicates the state has a formal reciprocity agreement with Tennessee (Note: Persons with a valid Tennessee Handgun Carry permit should contact any state for information on carrying such handgun prior to entering the state.) State States Not Recognizing TN Permits California http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/pubfaqs#10 Connecticut http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?a=4213&q=494620 Hawaii https://portal.ehawaii.gov/ Illinois** https://www.ccl4illinois.com/ccw/Public/Faq.aspx Maryland https://www.mdsp.org/Organization/SupportServicesBureau/LicensingDivision/MainLicensingPage/LicensingandRegistration/Firearms.aspx Massachusetts http://www.mass.gov/eopss/docs/chsb/firearms/non-resident-application-2013.pdf New Jersey http://www.njsp.org/about/firearms.html New York http://troopers.ny.gov/firearms/ Oregon http://licenseinfo.oregon.gov/?fuseaction=license_seng&link_item_id=14705/ Rhode Island http://www.riag.ri.gov/index.php Vermont http://ago.vermont.gov/divisions/criminal-division/gun-laws.php Washington* http://www.atg.wa.gov/ConcealedWeapons/Reciprocity.aspx#.VOQgTfnF98E Minnesota https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/bca/bca-divisions/administrative/Pages/permit-to-carry-reciprocity.aspx ** Illinois does now allow out of state permit holders to keep their loaded handgun in their vehicle while in the state. Disclaimer: All laws are subject to change, so please visit the state(s) website you plan to visit to be sure your permit is recognized and so you know their HCP laws.

Willkommen Mein Freund

Very nice!

What it looked like around 12. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Ice and sleet here around old hickory and hermitage.

Can we have some fun now?

They can't predict the weather for tomorrow accurately and they expect us to believe the debate over (fake) global warming is over? :rofl: