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I'd say it was fair. I always judge deals by how much money I could get out of it if I have to sell it. I'd say you'd be able to get you money out of that deal.

I've got a Rossi/Puma 92 and LOVE it. It is by far my favorite rifle. Mine is the pre-safety version. It eats pretty much any ammo I feed it and with the hotter, Cor-Bon or Buffalo Bore ammo, it's pushing mid range 30-30 ballistics. IMO it is an ideal personal defense carbine. Light weight, easy to carry, easy to shoot, lots of available ammo, .357 is great for most game, and can be loaded down for smaller game with the .38. Add to it the reliabilty of the lever action and it's also an incredibly fun gun to shoot.

From the hole in the end, it looks like a .22 or a bb/pellet gun.

Was there a law passed that necessitated the warrants or what? Somethings amiss.

That or get the kids to stop growing!

Haven't been on a vaction with my family in 8 years but if you want to pony up the money and foot one more vaction bill, I'm game.

No it really doesn't, except that it does. BTW - I'm agreeing that it's a non story.

He's an idiot for making the comment, regardless of the issue at hand. I have a problem with a lot of the Presidents and their "travel/vactioning". They can do that after their four years are over. As far as "buisness" I have no problem with that.

www.burwellguns.com and www.accurateiron.com are also M&P specialist.

Apex and the Smith Custom Shop are about the only ones I know of. Then again, the M&P doesn't need as much after market support as Glock and XD!

Customer specifically wanted "highlighter green". I personally think Chris did an unbelieveable job of making a less than desireable choice a look as good as it possiby could. While it wouldn't be my choice i kinda like that green 442. Great job Chris and the customer was very happy!

Here is my Sabre mid-length 16" with Troy TRX. Can't say enough about either. The Troy's are slim, light, and I like the modular abilities to add what I want where I want. I personally have always ended up with mid-length systems. I just like the look and percieved benefits.

Wow! This is our media at work. Not even sure how these things get correlated together, but her it is - http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/trayvon-martin-shooting-shame-nra-newest-poster-child-george-zimmerman-article-1.1061033?localLinksEnabled=false

Premise is wrong. The circumstances are irrelevant to the absolute, regardless of what one chooses. However, information or lack therof, is essential to ones personal decision but again it will not change the truth of the scenario.

Yep that's the arguement I've always heard and it's (IMO) a way to over complicate something simple. It all comes down to God vs. Man. If there is a God then there are absolutes and they are absolute in their application regardless of perception, culture, circumstances, etc. Man's application is irrelevant since he is not the holder of the absolute truth. If there is no God and Man is the final authority then things are completley relative to the individual being and his perception is the only reality that matters to him. That is the base for Russell's entire argument in "Perception and Reality". He later denounced it. Of course I disagree that man is an authority in and of himself, due to one simple fact that there are already universal understandings of right and wrong from cultures who have been truly isolated from any other. Like you mentioned murder, stealing, infidelity, etc are universally considered wrong. There are cultural variances in their application but the main principle is universal. If there is even one universal absolute then relativism is extremely weakened. The fact that there are many is damning to relativism. This is only taking moral issues. Math in and of itself completely denounces relativism as it was not derived from anything but is a simple reflection of absolute right. It can not be changed nor will it evolve into a conflicting stance.

So you are absolute there is no absolute. Just messing with you.

I was fortunate, I was raised to question everything and that from a Pastor (father). However, cynicism and rebellion do not necessarily go hand in hand. Usually rebellion is the immature, emotionally selfish response to questions one can't find answers they like. Skepticism is usually a healthy distrust of human nature, an understanding it doesn't change easily, and that we are naturally selfish creatures that have to make concentrated efforts to overcome our own condition.

It is indeed philosophical in nature. Science is not pure like you allued to for the very reasons you stated before. There have to be certain assumptions made not based on fact before an investigation of evedence is started. There are cases and disciplines were that doesn't apply but they are the minority. Global Warming starts with a philosophical idea that man is the creator and destroyer of all things he did not create. Essentially the God vs. Man argument. It boils down to whether or not we can destroy what we can not create and whether we are subject to fundamental laws of God/nature/physics etc. or whether we are only bound by our own mind/intellect/beliefs/discoveries etc.. That is the root of nearly all philosophical arguments. Science is fully vested in philosophy and originally was understood to be the origin of science. Plato/Aristotle etc. are prime examples. The idea that they are separated and that science is pure fact while philosophy is pure theory of thought is a recent development. While not the greatest movie ever, "Contact" tried to reconnect that bridge pretty clearly. A pretty good example IMO.

Lester I understand where you are coming from but you are neglecting one variable - Relativism. All things are either eternally fact/fiction or they are relative. The issues I had was that the liberal mindset were the same old reincarnations of relativism. Plato and Aristotle were fundamentally conservative in todays terminology, where as Kant, Russell and Nietzsche were fundamentally liberal. How can you quantify that? By applying what has been found to be true backwards. You are correct that philosophy MUST be taught. My problem was always that it was packaged to present one world life view as truth that could not back itself up with known fact. Heck even Russell basically discredited his entire career at the end of his life. The equation would go like this - 2+2=4 but we don't like that because it doesn't fit with what we want it to be so we will keep looking for a philosophical argument that gets us what we want. It was very frustrating. Also, the interpretation of past philosophers and history were often redefined by the teachers and formated to fit their narrative. It wasn't a simple matter of information passed on, butinformation shaped the way they wanted it to be presented. I personally would much rather have a Greek education based system but we will never see that becasue it is not controlled by the system but rather the student, fact, logic, and factual history.

Simply amazing.

D&T Arms in Goodlettsville does Cerakote, Duracoat, and Powder Coat.

Reaffirms to me that "free thinking" is not all that free or "liberated" as the "enlightened" among us want us to believe. I can tell you sitting thorugh enough philosophy and history in college that there is an outright defiance of facts and truth. I had some great discussions during that time.

It's down.

Stalker!

This thread is still going!? With over 1000 post and it's still in the same place. I guess the power of the interent to solve all problems has not arrived in this thread