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Probably the same principle that makes everything "black" ... tactical. A way of making a normal product seem like it is far better than it really is.

This is an assumption, but I think this is why the bullet in soviet ammo is actually a tad undersized to mitigate the case thickness. The only problem with steel cased ammo is that steel isn't as soft as brass and sometimes if you chamber (mainly rifles) has any variances then the case doesn't always expand evenly and sealed the chamber from leakage. The leakage will eventually build up and "weld" the case to the chamber and that is why extractors can break trying to pull them out. That being said this is mainly in rifles where more powder and higher pressures are more likely and more rounds being fired. In a handgun that at the range it shouldn't be a problem. I wouldn't use steel cased stuff in a class or anything where lots of ammo and little cleaning is taking place, but for the casual range trip I've never had an issue and I've run it in numerous AR's pistols, and AK's and have never broken an extractor or had a case stick.

Long time internet rumor. I've yet to see any actual evidence outside of conjecture and speculation by the arf.com guys. The Russians have been running steel cased ammo through their pistols and rifles for as long as they have had them. Mosins are in abundance with good chambers and the AK47 builds have been around since 1947 with most of the current offerings being from the 70's. That being said I've never heard of AK's having wear issues in their chambers from steel cased ammo.

Absolutely love my Rossi (Puma) '92 in .357. Proud to say it's my 9yr old daughters favorite to shoot as well.

I have no issue with earth cycles. That is about the only know fact about global temperature changes. Since accurate data was not kept until the failry modern times there is a vast amount of reading between the lines and assumptions that are not scientific fact and many are proven errant nearly as soon as they are thrown out there as fact. that is not science. Also, little is said about the 70's when many of these same scientist wanted to put ash on the polar caps to melt them because we were cooling too much. Study the middle ages and one of the biggest factors that drove the rise of the Roman and European dominance was the fact that temperatures in Europe were considerably warmer than they are today. Agriculture and population movement was able to thrive and spread like never before. Towards the end of the Roman decline and the beginning of medieval Europe many people were driven into towns and the feudal system because temperatures had begun to drop to modern levels making it near impossible to provide crops to help them survive. Wheat and other temperate climate crops no longer grew in abundance and the people began to have to live off legumes and potatoes etc.Europe has not been able to overcome many of those obstacles to this day. Warming may not be a completely horrible cycle anyway.

Thanks guys. that's essentially what i told her. I told here what she needed to know. The fact that she told me she wanted to believe it was true because she liked her teacher, reinforced the idea in my mind that liberals like using group pressure and personality persuasion to validate their ideology. Truth stands on it's own solid foundation. Lies have to be constantly reinforced.

So, I get home tonight to my 4th grader who is excited to tell me about this new study they are about to start at school about Global Warming and how it is detrimentally affecting the world. It's one thing when I have to deal with it. I'm comfortable with that, but how do you explain to a 9 yr old that science isn't as absolute as she is told and that some people she trust aren't telling her the whole truth. I think her teacher means well and don't want my daughter to think poorly of her, but that's where it's at. This is rhetorical, as we've discussed about assumptions and looking at all the data before we make decisions. It was just a sad day for me to realize that the ugliness I feared when my wife and I talked about having kids is now beginning.

I'm not the tin-foil type, but I can seem to think of a real reason for those departments to be armed agencies.

I use "GunSafe" and have it updates to an offsite server. It keeps a really good record in an easy to use format. Also allows you to add pictures. I don't think you can get it anymore but I'm sure there are some others out there like it. here is where it used to be http://somanyroads.org/gunsafe/

Some will not do a private sale WITHOUT a BOS and some will not do a private sale WITH a BOS. I personally won't have my information recorded by anyone for the very reason you mentioned. One it's unnecessary, two it can only work as a negative in my favor down the road (IMO), and I don't trust people with my info. Now, I will gladly show my HCP and/or license if I don't know the person and will ask the same. It's always good to ask what the other person expects as it can get heated at times on this subject of a BOS. Just my thoughts.

Ace, Red Jacket, Carolina Shooters Supply, or Stormwerkz work well. They all require cutting the tang off the receiver and using the internal receiver adapter. You might also find one of the Beryl style Tantal stocks and you won't have to cut the tang or use an internal adapter. http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/servlet/-strse-STOCKS-dsh-SAIGA-CONVERSIONS/Categories has just about everything you need. http://www.stormwerkz.com/StormWerkz_Stock_Adapters.html link for Stormwerkz. http://www.robertrtg.com/berylfolder.html only place I know of to get Beryl stocks when they are available.

Why not just do away with the rep points altogether? There is no possible way in a community this large it will end well. Kinda like the SME, it serves no real purpose. After all this is an internet forum. Not an expert answer question service that needs validity. Maybe we can have Letterman jackets so we can know who the cool kids are instead of rep points? I appreciate David's attempt to add new and cool features but it will/has just ended up with more work for him and more ignorant internet drama.

Start here http://www.kmaerospace.com/M17s.html

There is a reason it is called a "practice". It is not absolute and finite.

It very well could be that the gun was clean until after the auction. It it isn't reported by the owner then there is no "hit" then it would have come back clean through the ckecks.

Here's the Draco as she sits now. It's begging to be SBR'd and with the extra ACE stock and folding mech sitting in the closet ... it'll probably get there Here's a Saiga 12 I did for a guy. Pretty cool ... feel like I should have a game avatar holding that thing.

Overly heavy, limited capacity, and only reliable (combat arena) when you make it loose enough to need a 5" barrel to get 3" accuracy and are mag sensitive? Yeah, it's the best ever! In all seriousness, there are better more affordable options they should probably have gone with.

Run the other way.

The internet has really brought prices competitive. Some dealers, like Buds, work off of volume and make very little profit on an individual gun. That is fine when you are moving 100 units of a given gun every month. For the local guys that is near impossible and so the "profit" will be greater to cover the lack of volume. I say "profit" because it is not really profit. It is covering expense. Buds for example has 3 guys handling internet sales and turn incredible volume so their pricing and cost are much less than local shops. I know at our shop we can beat Buds on some things and some things Buds sales lower than our distributor cost and we work off of 14 distributors. It is a difficult game and some stores work harder at it than others. Academy is another that we beat on 95% of normal stocking stuff. They will sell some stuff at a loss because they do it in volume ala Sigma's. BTW - CDNN is not a good comparison because they are a distributor that sales direct to the public. It's hard to compete with that and many dealers don't like them for that practice. As far as manufacturer direct some of the manufacturers are ridiculous in their buy in demands. Benelli for instance, insist on a 15k worth of product buy in and they essentially get to pick what you get. Most local guys can't do that to get one m4. As far as markup, folks talking about 30-40% is crazy talk. Competitive pricing stores are happy to get in the 10-13% range. A lot are lower and very few are higher. I can tell you that most things we can be competitive with. As far as buying out of state, when you add transfer and shipping we still usually beat them on like guns. Tax is usually the difference and there is nothing we can do about that till they change it. Not advocating for that just figure they'll find a way to not loose that money. Just a little insight from one store.

Haha, well ... "civil" in the sense of within the same country.

At least this has stayed civil .....

Didn't mean to offend you. It's a Smith product in the sense that once it leaves the German factory it is marketed, serviced, sold, distributed, and imported by Smith. More people use Smith service because of the shear number of Smith's out there. Outside of Ruger, nobody makes more guns. In fact the next maker down in the list only makes about half as many guns as Smith and ruger. That being said they have come a long way with the M&P line and are back where they need to be. Kinda like what happened to a lot of the makers ala SIG.

Which is also a S&W product.

Some folks are just slow to the party. However, I fear some are so "principled" they will cut their nose off to spite their face. "Give me liberty or give me death!" They just don't realize a slow agonizing death is NOT better than a slow gradual healing. Peaceful revolutions are slow and tediuos, but lasting. With the one exception of ours, every other violent revolution has ended in the misery and suffering of the people and their country. France, England, Russia, Italy, Afganastan, India, all of Africa, China, all of South America, Cuba, Mexico, ...... The fact that ours was the only one that resulted in a positive, reinforces the idea that it is the principles that cause stable change not the revolution for revolution sake. Violent revolution is a last option by a principled people and the first by the mindless.

Oh my! Best one yet!