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[quote name='crimsonaudio' timestamp='1353962193' post='850926'] LOL, the property owner doesn't think it's worth the risk over petty theft, why should you? [/quote] Property owner doesn't want to get dragged through the legal system over some "petty thief". It cost them more to do that than the merchandise. I guarantee if it wasn't cost prohibitive to prosecute "petty" crime, they would be all over them. Interesting how the system is set up to protects the thief more than the law abiding victim. Seems I've heard that sentiment before.

[quote name='RobertNashville' timestamp='1353951064' post='850833'] Security guard or simply private citizen, except in significantly extenuating circumstances, no one should be killed to protect property; most especially property that the one doing the killing doesn't even own. This thief deserved to be stopped and arrested and tried and, if found guilty he deserved to be punished but he didn't deserve to be executed. [/quote] He wasn't executed. He triggered a response and he played the game. Can't complain when it doesn't go your way. Why do we hold responders to a higher responsibility than the criminal? The criminal went in knowing what he was doing, the reponders did simply that - respond. I give them a whole lot more latitutde. This attitude is why recidivism is a given, not an anomaly.

I don't have a problem with an actual filibuster. That should have been done when the Republicans had the opportunity and the Dems cried foul. As far as changing the vote count, that is the bigger issue.

D&T has/had them.

My issue is more with how punishment is served. Few actually serve their full time or what they deserved. I would like to see crimes punished without all the pleas and sentencing guidelines and when time is served it is over. Of course I'm big on the death penalty and think a lot of recidivism crimes need to be punished to the full extent of the law. However, It's a judicial system not a justice system.

Personally I would go with the same gun in .357 with a 16"-18" barrel. With that length you essentially can get 30-30 performance. You can also load the lighter .38/9mm bullets for small game or juice the velocity up for bigger game. Add to that you can use .38spl or .357mag and in an SHTF scenario you can reload with 9mm bullets as well. That keeps cost, weight, and availability at maximum effectiveness while adding versatility. The .45 is a little more limited as far as hunting versatility, capacity, cost, availability, and weight.

[quote name='Metal' timestamp='1353277157' post='847797'] would this work??? [url="http://www.cncwarrior.com/shop/23984-ext-length-24mm-4pc-brake/"]http://www.cncwarrio...24mm-4pc-brake/[/url] [/quote] That's where I would have sent him. Except you will need the 14x1 LH version. CNCW makes really good stuff. Keep in mind you need to "permanently" attach whatever you use.

[quote name='DarylDixon' timestamp='1353096288' post='846761'] My concern with the Crossbreed is that in pictures I can't see that it would sit low enough to not be seen when I tuck in, but I'm not that familiar. Is that anything to be concerned about? [/quote] I know a skinny guy who carries a Sig 226 or 1911 14 hrs a day and usually has a polo shirt tucked in over it. No one knows he carries. The Crossbreed is adjustable for height and cant as well. It can sit 3/4 or more below the pant line. Not the best way because it's hard to draw with so little to grip above the pant line, but it's doable.

Yeah, Crossbreed.

[quote name='S&WForty' timestamp='1353091495' post='846707'] Is there any truth in the statement that TN allows OC with the HCP to eliminate the possibility of false brandishing claims? It seems what we have is worth being thankful for, but I wish we had more leeway like that special permit now issued in MS. (if I've read correctly, they jump through the same hoops for their special permit as we do for our regular permit - grrrr) [/quote] IIRC Yes. There was a case where a person was charged for exposing a previously concealed firearm and the legislature responded by taking the concealed provision out.

[quote name='MacGyver' timestamp='1353090291' post='846678'] I hear Mitch McConnell is the leading advocate for extending the term limit right now. That way he can get all the Republicans in the Senate onboard with making Obama a two-term president. [/quote] They rambled that same mess with Clinton.

Sent paperwork Oct. 10th, pending Nov. 13th.

In the USPS defense, the fed takes any and all of their profit and puts it in the general fund. A fairly good example of how government runs things. Take from the makers to give to the takers then blame the makers.

If you convert a Saiga AND properly do the front end the dollar amount is fairly even if not a little ahead with the Arsenal. You have to add in the refinishing and proper parts. Are they worth it? Yes and no. Do you get a "better gun (reliability, function, etc.?) with an Arsenal .... no. Do you get a fully complete and properly factory built AK that is top shelf for a fair deal? Yes. Would I buy an Arsenal? No. I'd go with the Saiga and make it exactly the way I want it. If I wanted a historically correct traditional AK that I wasn't going to change anything on, I'd get the Arsenal. It's all in what you want. Six of one 1/2 dozen of the other.

[quote name='HvyMtl' timestamp='1352930588' post='845716'] They are remaking this. A travesty in my mind. Kerry wont get it. Too much baggage. Too good of a Karl Rove character assassination. [/quote] I agree with the travesty. I'm afraid the remake is going to destroy my childhood and love of AK's! I also agree Kerry won't get it ...at least I hope not. Just the fact that he could be put up for that is confirmation of the administrations outright hatred for the military. BTW - Karl didn't assassinate Kerry's character. Kerry did that himself in Vietnam.

I laugh so I won't cry.

According to Aguilla, they work very well in the Winchester 1300 for which they were deseigned. Aguilla also says they will work in some Mossbergs but not 870's. I had an IAC (870) clone that they workded in but you had to be firm and fast on the pump. Evidently Aguilla's sight is down or I'd post the link.

Problem is there aren't enough that care about values. If Benghazi didn't bring down massive elements of the administration, Fast and Furious didn't lead to prison sentences, or Obama care lead to state revolts - this won't matter. Was it stolen? I wouldn't go that far.No doubt there was massive cheating from the libs as usual, but that is just a continuation of the symptoms of socialism. Going after this issue is like tyring to cure an HIV patient by treating their flu symptoms.

Hey c.lunn, you know D&T has Crossbreeds for the M&P in stock. No wait! :-)

[quote name='reed1285' timestamp='1352779473' post='844668'] Mine had a round trunion, ive seen the ones with the flat trunions as well. Not sure what the difference is either.[/quote] Just different. Older ones seemed to have more occurrences of flat trunnions. Kinda like dimple-non dimple versions.

[quote name='TLRMADE' timestamp='1352691813' post='844130'] Good deal! That's what I wanted to hear! I might try a Vortex Sparc...just dunno about the co-witness?[/quote] It won't co-witness. Come by and you can see mine on the Draco. It has the Sparc as well. Do a search on the TWS and you will see what I've been saying about it. [IMG]http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w191/nsnate02/Guns/Untitled.jpg[/IMG]

Unfortunately you are defined by the company you keep. That goes for states as well. While there are pro 2A dems it is their party that continues to push for absolute bans. We have to keep our eyes on republicans as well, since they enable the left. Its also true that many dems are actually conservative, but when they elect leftist simply for the D it negates their intentions. Same goes for issues with R's. If they wasn't to change that perception they need to stop voting party and vote their conscience and values. Goes both ways.

[quote name='TNcitizen22' timestamp='1352650647' post='843751']In addition to free choice, perhaps because we disenfranchise a large portion of our population.[/quote] Yeah, that must be the reason:rolleyes:

[quote name='strickj' timestamp='1352506070' post='842778'] What did I miss? What did he say contrary to that, that you have failed to provide for us? [/quote] Context.

[quote name='strickj' timestamp='1352498476' post='842702'] Robert; I'm not an Atheist and I'm not looking to remove religious expression. You're damn skippy! And why do you think that is? Why do you feel the need to legislate your religious opinion? Your religious opinion is infringing on my rights to not be governed by the church. And, for the question that is always ignored, how would you feel if the law said you could not eat pork or womens had to keep their hair covered? Yeah, that would be considered unconstitutional because it's not your religious opinion that;s being legislated. AK, that is an opinion piece. How about something.... let's say.... legal? I have quoted from Cornell Law, The ACLU, The First Amendment Center in Nashville, and the Britannica Encyclopedia. Not including quoting the First and Jefferson's very own words. Thanks. [/quote] Easy trigger. You know very well we won't see eye to eye on this no matter how much either presents. We've already presented the same stuff over and over and I was trying to avoid that in yet another thread, but alas here we are. I'm fine with that and pretty sure you are too. As far as legal rulings, there aren't any that have to do with the premise you or I layed out, which is the intent of our foundation. All the legal rulings are on specific issues where religion and government crossed. There are cases that speak to both. The ACLU, Cornell, and all the rest you posted ARE in fact opinion pieces on those rulings as well as interpretations of what those rulings inteded and meant and the reprecussion they hold. The reason you and some others believe that my postion is a farily new one is becasue the base understaning has always been (until recently) not in contention. It has only been recent that the base understanding needed a defense from new concepts. Much like the current 2a debates.