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Venetian bullet traps will do that. If you are ever there alone look at the back side of the shooting booths (inside the range) and you will see them littered with shrapnel.

Centerfielder had some parts kits minus barrel and receiver. Cugir stopped making them and then destroyed the dies. Romania was the last country building a commercially available psl. Can't import them from China, Iraq, or Russia so that's is your short fall.

I think far too many people over value themselves and their professions. Romans 12:3   A man who provides for his family and is content with the choice and agreements he has made doesn't need to pander for reinforcement, compliments, gratitude, or favor.   Service only counts if it is selfless.   Stuff like the above, while meant to be in thanks, demeans the server and the service. LE is a job. If they don't like the hours, pay, benefits, etc then they can choose to do something else just like any other job and that goes for any profession. When I hear this kinda of stuff that tries to makes any one sound like a saint and claim some noble service, I have to ask would they do it for free? That is true service.   Thanks for a job well done, but no saint hood for taking a good paying job. Regardless of the job.

The Veprs are made at the Molot factory which is where all the Russian SPEC-OPs, high end small arms, and RPK's are made. They are kinda like the Russian Skunk Works of their small arms development.  Ishmash makes the Saiga and that factory is where the standard Russian infantry guns are made. Veprs are very nice.   One caveat to the Veprs, however, is that they don't take Saiga 12 mags but their popularity is opening the mag market quite a bit. I believe SG just came out with a 20 rnd drum.   You are wrong. :) They are both stamped.

[quote name="w0lfattack" post="1126693" timestamp="1395191425"]That's good to know but what do you mean the steel is better quality?[/quote] Steel composition is a higher grade. I'm told it has to due with epa regulations here stateside compared to China. They are heavier than the 870 as well. IAC, H&R, and Remington are all owned by the same company. That is why the designs are similar.

Yeah, one of the IAC's I had I put an 870 handguard and carrier in. The 870 can take IAC and H&R barrels but not the other way around without some work. The main reason is that the mag tube ring is further forward on the 870 than the other two. The H&R also has a hump at the rear of the receiver but the IAC is a nearly direct clone (except barrel) to the 870 and they both can take nearly all 870 accessories (minus mag extensions, and mag tub caps).     The steel in the IAC is actually better quality than the 870 but the finish work is not as clean.

People are a cheap commodity in Russia. Gives you a different look at how other places around the globe view life and why wars will be bloody.

Here's a few I have/had: Latest of the Saiga 12's I've had: Remington 870 Tactical Knoxx Spec-Ops Stock: IAC Hawk with ghost sights and Knoxx stock: H&R Pardner Pump with Knoxx stock:

There is a difference in selective breeding and genetic altering a breed. Genetic altering, IMO, takes the natural casual effects that can not be seen or known until after the fact and throws them out the window. Selective breeding allows for the natural development of the unknown factors to develop and evolve with the natural growth of the animal or crop. Thus allowing the breeder to know what works and what doesn't as well as the unforeseen benefits or negatives. Some breeding ideas seemed great until they got the results and those breeds are now gone.    IMO, it is those unknown factors that is what makes genetic altering a problem. It's not that the process that is bad but scientist can not account for all the factors that take place when you alter a single chromosome or gene in a plant or animal.   Similar to how they couldn't figure out why the test tube animals and plants they grow early on could not sustain their life cycle in a normal or healthy pattern ... ala  Dolly the Sheep.

OK, post you casual links then ;) The colon cancer statement was an example not a proof statement thus no link to a single source. Simply a starting point for a beginning search to a very body of work.   You need to read the scientific journals and the scholarly works that are linked in some of the "activist" links. Yes, there are the Alex Jones types in the health field, but there is good science that speaks volumes to the issues as well once you get past the opinions and "conclusion" that some jump to.   I would refer you to Ted Broer who does a good job putting much of the information in an compact format.

It was a Jeff Cooper opinion/concept of what he liked in a quick handling utility rifle. It is now a bit outdated with new technology. It has now turned into a term used by people who have their own opinions on a quick handling utility rifle.

Yes, there is quite a bit. Google will be your friend. It's the Global Warming of the Ag business. There is far to much to start listing it here. But when the USDA, Surgeon General, and Corporate Ag business are hand in hand things tend to get suppressed and "trumped" by their "own" scientist. Sound familiar?   BTW - most American health problems are not volume associations, that is the deflector.  Just look at the studies of colon cancer in the US. We are one of the only places in the world with colon cancer and much of the rest of the world it is non existent. The link has been proven to be food additives and genetically altered food as it works through the digestive system by objective science. Problem is there is no one smoking gun and this is how they get away with it. It is a cumulative effect of several factors all stemming from the same source.   You can also ask the US Air force why the will not allow diet drinks to be consumed by active pilots.

So if cancer is abnormally fast growing cells and they are producing a genetically abnormally fast growing fish and a person takes on some of the properties of the food they eat - does the USDA not see the correlation? Guess not as evidenced by decisions up to this point.

So, as I have no dog in this fight ... One complaint and every other comment and review I've read has generally been positive and this business is blackballed by so many? I guess this is the bad side of internet communities or mobs (depending on topic) ;).   No doubt Caster's experience was accurate but if it is inconsistent with others, could it be the fellow was having a bad day? Maybe he had a fight with his wife that day and needed a "win"? Maybe he just encountered an idiot first time reloader who threatened to sue him when he stuck a 300 Blackout in a 5.56 chamber and blew up his gun?   Just giving a separate perspective from the tar and feather fervor that seems to be the default. Put it in the memory banks and if it proves to consistent then it proves to be a problem. Otherwise people are people and even business owners have bad days. Especially when the gun market is so volatile right now. We need more sources not less.

It's not stealing if it's yours ;)

Oh man! He's awful! Three minutes in and he's just rambling. 

Profiling. Profiling was all that was lacking from the old method. TSA doesn't do anything except harass regular folks and make politically correct screening. It's the epitome of the political postilion of doing something while doing nothing.

[quote name="jtmaze" post="1121885" timestamp="1394294095"]I thought a good price for 7.62x39 was about .10 a round. That is what I paid for the last surplus I bought in the late 80s early 90s. I might need to get some more 7.62 x54r tho. I am down to about 2000 rnds. And I still shoot this. Now they want what I was paying for a case 2.5 years ago for a can now. Rediculous. JTMWe the People of the United States, in order to form a more Perfect Union......[/quote] You really expect prices will hold same over 15-20 years or even 2 years ago? I bet you get sticker shock everytime you go to the gas station. Surplus runs out. Prices go up accordingly. You probably bought a Garand out of a barrel in the hardware store for $50 too. Don't go looking for that our your may have a heart attack! :-)

Well, we already know he likes the ladies from that region. :)

No they don't. They just get taken over by the people that do. ;)

Yeah, the sound alone is pretty creepy.

... and this is how the shortages, price hikes, and conspiracy theories regarding shortages, price hikes, and conspiracy theories get started. Reposting non-sense and then not wanting to be the "alarmist". :surrender:   PLEASE stop this non-sense.

Because some of us don't want to overpay for it by calling it .300 Blackout and putting it in an unreliable platform like the AR. ;)

While there may be some hiccups in the supply chain with the conflict over there going on, keep in mind that those hiccups occur even when there are no problems going on ... it's Russia after all ;), If there is a shortage or price hikes it will be completely American consumer driven, much like the .22 shortage has been.

[quote name="austin7.62" post="1121044" timestamp="1394146840"]Sanctions won't involve ammo. I'm calling it right now (praying I'm right :D). This will just be another panic. Even in the worst case scenario, Ukraine and Romania are still producing steel case ammo. They can increase that production if it means more $$$ for them. Bulgaria and Bosnia are producing brass 7.62x39 as well, so you should always be able to get boxer primed, re loadable ammo. Most of the 5.45 and 7.62x54Rmm surplus comes from Ukraine anyway, so how would that be affected? Oh yeah, by everyone starting rumors and buying up every single round of commie ammo they see. We are our own worst enemies.[/quote] This, this, and THIS!