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Smith E-series. True customs for less money.

That's actually not bad for a draco.

Overtly heavy, large, limited capacity, overly complicated .... 1911 =-O I'd have to say the PPQ or S&W M&P

Simply put? The answer above. or simply answer, "nothing". :-) or answer, "the reaction to fear is fight or flight. When I carry I keep both those options."

Yep, less is more on this one. I'll get back in for #12.

Didn't realize they were going to be colored either. I was kinda looking forward to a more subdued look. Looks good though. Is the state outline straight on the bottom? It looks a bit angled in the pic.

So I got one of the first pre-production handguards that Manticore has coming out to beta test. All I got to say is it is awesome! The gas tube front hg retainer is a tight fit, but Sven said that was intentional. He also said they left a little extra material on the front retainer to allow for slight variations in fitment. Other words you can take some off if you need to. Mine didn't. Slipped right on. Feels good in the hands. Has excellent heat dissipation even without a heat shield and is very slim. Can't wait for the rail accessories and optic mount to come out. Another winner from Manticore. They aren't for sale yet, but they should be shortly ;) A few pics: A few detail pics:

Yeah, I saw that. I think it's just bad organization on the website. They have a modular section, an IWB section, an OWB section, and then that odd section. In the description of the actual holster it is listed only as an OWB. The original Silent Thunder is the only IWB/OWB holster I can see.

Not the STX or STX 2.0. The original Silent Thunder is modular but not the one listed above that I have.

Being that it attaches very similar to the Raven, it rides similar. I will say the angle of the attachments makes it a lot less rough in the belt and rides smoother if that makes since. The Raven style puts a lot of stress on the belt as it comes through the slots. The Garrett is angled to fit better in this regard. Best I can do on how it rides. I like it about 3 but can conceal it better in a 5 position.

Looks good. As a note on your other pistol, that Rossi grip is my favorite revolver grip of all time. Wish they made it aftermarket and to fit other guns.

It's a Walther PPQ with H&K price!

[quote name="wtl" post="1155580" timestamp="1401929336"]How so? Both are mostly kydex. What makes the Garrett so much better? I've never seen one up close so I honestly don't know. I just don't see how a leather lining equals higher quality.I did peruse their site and saw a single clip option which is my preference, so maybe I'll give one a try if I can ever find the CZ 2075 I want and need a holster for it.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 2[/quote] Features, quality, and design: Kydex quality, Kydex thickness, fit/finish, tension adjustment, attachment points, adjustable cant, closeness of the carry, .... No offense to the PJ it has a place, but it's like saying a Honda accord is the same as a Ferrari because they both are partially made from aluminum.

No they are being made at Walther's Umarex plant in Germany. Most of their traditional stuff is made at the Ulm factory in Germany. The only US thing Walther makes its actually made by Smith & Wesson, the PPK.

The only similarity is that they have kydex. Single point holsters for a full size gun is awful for me. Cant or no cant they will roll and tend to drag my pants down since all that weight is in one spot. That is why The Raven style using wings is so awesome. Distributing the weight carries the gun a lot lighter and it lets the belt do what it's supposed to do without having to cinch it down a size too small.     The leather lining doesn't add any bulk. In fact it is just as thin as the Raven style holsters I've had and they are as thin as it gets. Garrett did a good job on this one.

[quote name="Bolt_Overide" post="1155284" timestamp="1401845214"]sorry to burst your bubbles, but its a walther branded umarex turd...[/quote] If that's the case then all Smyrna, GA marked Glocks are Glock branded GA turds. Just sayin ;) I've heard that knock but it doesn't hold water since there aren't any to evaluate yet and the reviews by people who have actually tested them, says different.

I looked at the original STX due to its smaller profile but after talking to them the 2.0 holds 1/4 in closer to the body and has the tension adjustment. I didn't even think about that feature till you mentioned it. I'm glad I went with the 2.0

[quote name="KKing" post="1155201" timestamp="1401832246"]I had one, unfortunately my experience wasn't as good. Very good quality holster. My problem, which I believe is because the leather never got broken in, was while drawing it would pull my pants up entirely before the gun would come unholstered. That's even with a VERY snug gun belt. Maybe if I had patience to allow it time, I just couldn't[/quote] This one has tension adjustment, so I don't have that problem. I could see that being an issue without that feature.

[quote name="gregintenn" post="1155197" timestamp="1401831861"]Neat design. I haven't seen one before.[/quote] I hadn't either, that's why I was a bit hesitant. Be honest I had an order in for a Zero Concealment (raven style) and wouldn't have ordered the Garrett had it not been for the discount. I will now without a problem. I was more than pleasantly surprised with the quality, turn around time, and their customer service is excellent. They also sell all their extra parts, clips, and anything else you need on their site.

It has always been the law that you owe the sales tax on any internet sale.  You are supposed to fill out the tax form and send in the correct sales tax voluntarily. No, dealers do not collect the sales tax unless they are pocketing it for themselves.

Yep, :-) best of all worlds. Thought it would be to thick but it isn't at all. No clicking and clanking when the gun is going in or coming out and it protects the finish a better.

So as many of you know you usually end up with a drawer full of holsters before you find the one that works, but I got it on the first try this time. It is a Garrett Industries "Silent Thunder STX 2.0" http://www.giholsters.com/silent-thunder-stx-2-0/ I was a little hesitant because I hadn't heard of this company and they are a bit pricey, but after getting it all I can say is WOW! This thing is awesome. Adjustable cant, high quality leather lined kydex, adjustable tension, and it is the most comfortable closest riding holster I've ever had! I had been a big believer in the Raven style and thought those were it, but this one puts them to shame. These will be my go to holster from now on. BTW - I did get the memorial day sale at 25% off and turn around was a week. Here is the PPQ in its new rig.

Well according to the Walther forum, they been advertising these for awhile and no one has one yet, so they haven't hit the shores yet.

Mikey, I'm with you on this one. Gotta have it! Now if they will just ever become available.

[quote name="musicman" post="1154454" timestamp="1401673293"]Cool! What's the capacity and barrel length currently?[/quote] 18.5" barrel and holds 6. I'm going to get the Choate +1 extension for the 870. It fits flush with the end of the barrel.