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That's what I got because it was in stock and there was a 4-6 week wait on M4 chrome lined. Got it in about 5 days. That was about 2 weeks ago though. Of course I sold it just this week though!

Hope that makes you feel better, but I have a degree in History with emphasis in South American and Far East studies as well as a degree in philosophy and a masters in theology. I have debated and read almost everything I can find or be shown on both sides of the debate and my conclusion is the same as histories. My grasp on socialism is just fine. The fall back cry of hypocrite is not new either. Conservatives have a realistic world view that understands that their are flaws and adjustments that will need to be made, but socialism believes there is perfection in government to be achieved in this world. It just doesn't exist. I'm sorry as to not be so arrogant to think I can attain perfection, but rather attempt to build on man's successes and let time and ingenuity of the future build a better world one step at a time. I can understand the love affair with Obama, it was the same with Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Castro, Chavez, Evita ........ They were full of platitudes and promises for the "poor" and "working" class centered on non-productive issues such as race and national identity, but what they delivered was/is misery and equality in poverty with no chance of upward mobility. BTW this is not an extreme characterization either. If you really take the time to look beyond the feel good speeches and factually examine his plan, you will see that it is very similar to those listed above. Do i think he's going to go out and murder his enemies?.... no, but the ideology is the same - so will be the results. As far as racism - I have a black sister (adopted) and my sister in law is first gen American form Mexico (the right way mind you, no anchors here!) and I have ancestors from Poland, Scotland, Wales as well as a good amount of Cherokee Indian. I'd say I'm more diversified than someone with only African heritage. "So blind is he who refuses to see."

That may be the plan. Instead of slowly leaching off the money, if they are cashed out ..... jackpot! Instant tax bonus! BTW - the myth that Republicans are fat cat wall streeters is not entirely accurate. I'll have to find my sources again, but the last stats from the last few elections I saw show a pretty large discrepancy in voter income in favor of Dems. Couple that with the low end of their voter base as a factor and it is even higher than the stats show. they also give a significant amount less to charity than Republicans.

You actually have the range kinda backwards. 6.8 SPC is considered a medium range bullet. It does have a lot better terminal balistics and killing power than the weak .223 at all ranges.

Cardinal Armory (formerly Ko-Tonics) used to be the best, but he unfortunately is closing. Try to get a 4 groove 1:11 twist if you can. Stay away from Model 1 sales 6.8. They use a twist rate that is way too fast and doesn't work well. Other than that, most of the makers are making them these days and ammo is coming down to a reasonable level that make them worth while now. I had a Ko-tonics that I sold due to ammo cost, but I really like the round and am thinking of getting another upper for hunting purposes.

Yeah, I guess I used the old stats... like the ones available before today. but you're right, it is truly a miserable world full of people without jobs and poverty stricken soup lines around every corner and Bush is a complete failure. consider the fact that unemployment was at a historical low of 7.5% in 1992 after being above that since they it was tracked. Those were also years of complete misery. Come to think of it, I can't think of a time in American history that has not been miserable for it's people.

DTI's are excellent uppers. They use cmt/stag receivers and Wilson barrels. Both builds I've built I've used them and I can't justify spending more on other uppers just for a name. Good solid builds IMO. The difference between the Sabre's and DTI's will be the finish. Sabre uses a nice shiny black finish that looks good IMO, but other than that I don't think there is much difference.

I am really impressed with these. Can't beat the price and reviews are very good so far. for $150 you get the scope, mounts, and a doubler (2x magnifier) http://www.vortexoptics.com/riflescopes/view/vortex-strikefire-red-dot-riflescope

\That would be a YHM Phantom Brake/Comp. It won't do much for flash. I really like YHM stuff.

Putting on my tin foil for a moment, if the gubernment decides to start taking our guns does anyone have a plan to eliminate all the pictures and threads they have posted that track most of our stuff? Just a thought as i have posted pictures of most of my stuff at some point and also bought and sold most of my stuff on TGO. Just a thought. Maybe these "off the grid" types have something going.

- DTI 16" mid length Flat top upper - Sabre lower - CTR mil-spec stock - LMT m16 BCG - Phantom 5c2 FH - Danile Defense single point sling adapter - YHM flip FS/gas block - YHM flip BUIS - Troy MRF FF handguard

and that's your problem. You think it is somebodies responsibility to "give" you a job. Less than 6% of Americans don't have jobs, which BTW is the lowest in recorded American history. Socialism takes away the ability to go "get" a job and tells you where to work how much you will make and how far you will advance. While I don't care for the the racial stuff, I saw a lot more of it going the other way.

Just move to Israel. It's not an island, but it may as well be. Plus you know they will protect you and do it well. Plus you'll be able to hook up with Paleteiger and his Tavor! Seriously considering it!

Just stopped by Wal-mart for some regular shopping and stopped by the ammo counter and 9mm Blazer Brass is on roll back for $8.49. the guy also said the WWB is on roll back as well.

I believe the context in which we were talking was self defense with handguns? If you want to talk rifles and snipers that's a whole nother ball game.

What a world we live in where Bush is an enemy and Che Guevara is a hero.

Funny how no one (media, Dems, etc.) talk about the actual recession Bush inherited with all things 911 on top of that and it took Bush less than a year. Right now we haven't even had 1 quarter of negative GDP (it takes 3 for a recession) and all we hear is the messiah might not be able to rescue the economy, but we'll have hope and change! Already seeing the blame Bush game for Obama's projected failures. Geesh, every election is historic. Every President inherits a slumping economy. I too look forward to seeing how thing stack up and not based on how I feel abot the economy but by the actual numbers. Numbers don't lie. Statistically, Bush as been very good and I'll put them against anyone but reagan, but his opponents will give him no credit. Only blame for what they can't blame on themselves. This get's so tired.

I believe bigger is always better and so I carry a Deagle in .50! Anything else is for weenies. Besides it is the only one stop bullet! Seriously I've read all the "facts" from everything ever posted and I carry a 9mm for various reasons. These days with the advancement in bullet designs, anything 9mm and above is virtually equal. BTW - there is only 1 one stop shot. The base of the skull from the rear. everything else is bleed out.

Would that be the new spirit of patriotism we are summoning?

So where are the Palin riots? I heard the Police were getting ready for them and being the right wing, Christian, gun loving, conservative, radical I want to be a part of the stand but I can't find any? Anyone know?

This may be a blessing in disguise for our side. A clear victory can't be won without a clear enemy and this could provide that. Hillary would have been far more dangerous and destructive to our rights because she appeared less overtly threating. As a skilled politician she would have been able to slowly whittle away without much of the nation realizing what had happened. Much like her husband did. Obama, in his inexperienced way, has shown his hand and is not good at hiding his radical ideas. Now people are expecting him and as Sun Tzu said deception is an essential part of victory. Consequently that is how we have gotten to this point. What is done in the shadows will be brought into the light. The light is starting to shine.

You can HOPE for euphoria all you want, but when the drug wears off reality is harder than before. False is hope is worse than despair, because it takes you to the highest floor and then gently nudges you off! Think about the movie Independence Day when the morons are all celebrating on the rooftops and the light of their joy and hope shines on them..... right before it obliterates the entire city....... yeah, I see parallels.

The only way that would happen is for him to buy his own slogan, "Change". His ideology is not new nor untried. In fact it is the opposite. It is an old ideology that keeps getting dragged from the grave of failure and death in hopes that this time when the dust is blown off it will work. I can almost guarantee with certainty what will happen as has been mentioned numerous times, ala Jimmy Carter. This can only be exciting for Carter, who now has a chance not to be the worst president. The only one closed minded is the one who can't read about or remember the historical precedents for his "Change" and see the miserable failure that it has always been no matter what angle it was approached from. Of course it is these same apologist, who have swallowed the toxic Bush hate pill, that will still blame Bush when Obama fails. My hope is not that he will surprise us, but more realistically that he will be such a poor politician he won't get anything done and once again America will realize that it is individual freedom, initiative, and ingenuity that drives this country to success. Not the country that drives it's people to success.

The smith at Guns and Leather said he (I also heard good recommendations) can do a good job. Other than that or Coal Creek you are going to be shipping it. Cylinder and Slide, Arizona Response Systems, Heirloom Precision, or Novak. They gonna cost you though. For a low budget improvement, take out the stupid mag disconnect, get a wide combat trigger, and a spring reduction kit (all from C&S) and your trigger will go from blah to nice. Not custom but nice.

Did you send it in for the warranty?