Problem is is that the two carriers have additional policies that are more stringent than the ATF rules. This is what causes a lot of difficulty at the counter. I have even had an argument with the legal department of Fedex that said I could not ship FTF in state even though ATF and their own policy allows it. Most counter folks are OK with shipping to a FFL but get all confused on in state FTF. All though the lady I spoke with was very nice and agreed that what the legal dept. was telling her contradicted their policy, she said her hands were tied. I went back the next day and didn't tell them anything. I had printed the shipping label and sat it on the counter and said thank you. Was that ok, probably not, but it wasn't worth another two hours in debating company policy.