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Over on the 68forum.com I asked and a guy just bought one on the 17th and got it today. He says it appears to be like any other AR he's ever seen. He is going to shoot it this week and report back. My biggest question is the chamber and where to find a BCG! The only other real options are the ar15performance.com Xtreme build or a Stag from ar15sales.com. The Xtremes won't be available to at least March and the Stags (great Deal) are saying 6 mo. for delivery!

Man I just asked this same thing on another forum! They seem to be the ONLY people with 6.8 uppers. They appear to be Stag uppers and I'm not sure how you could screw that up? I know they have a horrible rep with the AK guys, but they way things are I might give it a shot. Blackthorn/Vulcan/Hesse.

Lower doesn't matter unless you are talking about .308 or a long action. Then it's a different thing. A normal lower can handle a multitude of caliber's.

You know, when GW's inaguration cost 40 mil the media was all up in arms running stories on how much armor and supplies that could have bought our troops during a wartime effort and how irresponsible and selfish he was. Now we are on the verge of real economic trouble and the Obamination is spending 160 mil (at last count) and all I hear is celebration and how he needs to spend that much to show all the love and unity he is bestowing on us. I'm just waiting for the statues and giant bust of the Messiah II to be unveiled.

Here is the list i used for studying. http://www.serenadedesign.com/mack/metro.htm Ten Codes 10-3 special assignment -13 suspects very dangerous -14 convoy or escort -16 transport prisoner -30 record check for warrants -32 breathalyzer test -34 correct time -35 mental case -40 suspicious person -41 domestic problem -42 intoxicated person -43 investigate disturbance -44 disorderly conduct -45 accident- no injury -46 accident- injuries -47 request medical assistance -48 request wrecker -49 vehicle blocking right of way -50 theft -51 stabbing -52 shooting -53 robbery -54 person with a weapon -57 fight -58 prowler -59 indecent exposure -60 blood run -61 fire -62 person calling for help -63 attempt suicide -64 deceased person -65 animal problem -66 bomb threat -67 rape -68 kidnapping -70 burglary- residence -71 burglary- other -72 stolen -73 hazardous material -75 missing person -77 gang activity -78 criminal vice -79 occult activity -80 child abuse -82 request backup -83 shots fired -85 escaped prisoner -87 safety hazard -89 drowning -92 fixed post traffic -93 traffic violation -94 short break -95 lunch -96 business check -97 arrived on scene -98 assignment complete -99 advise complaint number Response Codes CODE 1 normal response (at convenience) CODE 2 urgent response (no lights or siren) CODE 3 emergency response (use lights and siren) Other emergency codes 1000 bank robbery 2000 aircraft crash 3000 barricaded subject 4000 sniper 5000 personnel in danger 6000 riot 7000 train derailed 8000 explosion Incident ID codes A alarm B bank security C complaint D domestic disturbance E emergency escort F felony J juvenile M misdemeanor P psychological evaluation R radar used S subject T directed traffic V assisted motorist W assisted warrant service Disposition codes 1 report complete 2 arrest 3 citation 4 assist citizen 5 gone on arrival 6 assist other unit 7 advised 8 advised civil 9 warned 10 no response 11 disregard 12 location secure 13 false call 14 assistance refused Signals 1 contingency operation 2 deploy out of sight 3 confidential 4 go to station 5 advise if officer 6 phone ---- 7 all units remain away 8 meet me at ---- 9 disregard 10 rush 11 switch to secondary channel 12 switch to countywide channel 13 switch to assigned channel 14 switch to records channel 15 switch to CB channel -- 16 stop all radio traffic

Yeah rumor is that there were 4 bystanders found dead near the Kel-Tec booth.

They are required to post it in a prominent place, but necessarily the front door. It is a sign required by the Health Dept and different than the TCA posting rules.

I sure like those. With the new price point i like them a whole lot better! So you know how easy they are to change barrels or when they are going to release the 6.8 platform?

Those souvenir cutting boards look awesome!

Defining torture is an "argument of the beard". It is a judgment call on most techniques used today, as stated in the posted link. IMO waterboarding is not torture, so it is ok. BTW torture is not what was being discussed earlier.

It is a inferior copy of the P-11 made by a disgruntled ex-Kel-Tec employee. He was flamed for posting reviews as if he were customers on forums. I think it is telling that they have already changed their name in the short time the have been in business. Less than 2 yrs I think? I'd go with the PF9. I just don't care for .380 and I liked both Pf9's i had.

in semi auto, muzzle rise is not really a problem. It is a fairly low recoiling rifle as it is especially with the weight of the weapon. If anything any muzzle jump you get is due in part to the gas piston assembly shifting weight so sharply. +1. Again recoil is not an issue IMO on semi auto AK's. However, the Phantom 5C2 (not to be confused with the regular Phantom) does help with what negligible muzzle rise you might experience as well as significantly lowers flash.

She must be using Extreme Shock Fang Face ammo! Nice hog!

BTW - the excess of Katrina happened because Blanco and Naggin ignored Bush then then fired from the hipe like morons. It didn't happen in Mississippi or Texas, which actually had more damage..... wow! Guess what? Those were Republican areas. Curious. - You do know Clinton started Echelon, right. You also are aware that it only came to light when Bush asked for permission to continue using the same program, correct? You also know that it was ruled by the special espionage court as perfectly legal this past week, right? It is interesting they delayed ruling till the week of Obama's inaguration. - Habeas Corpus applies to citizens on US soil and not to international insurgent fighters. - The Geneva Convention ONLY applies to uniformed soldies in conventional warfare as described by the same Geneva Convention which no one in Guitanimo was. It technically only applies if both sides have agreed to it, which the insurgents have not, because they are not legal fighters under the same Geneva Convention YOU POEPLE KEEP TRYING TO USE WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THE HECK YOUARE TALKING ABOUT! Evidently we live in a country that can read Obama's 13 cover/propaganda stories in Time magazine, but can't seem to find the time to read history, or the documents they liked to throw out there as legal standning. We live in a society of Cliff note legal historians. Rant off.

Yes. I've got a 12g CD Tactical/Field pump and just got back from the range with it Thurs. It is a very nice 12g for the money. ATM I like it better than some of the lower end 870's and Mossy 500's I was looking at. However, if it is a semi auto I have heard some of them to have issues with lighter loads and the bolt handle coming loose. Nothing major that isn't all too uncommon but something to think about. You might want to check the Charlesdalyforum.com for more info. I don't know anything about the S&W but as said before, I'd stay away from a 2.5 chamber.

I really doubt they are concerned with saving money.

No it is really cold and it might be dangerous for the kids to be out in this weather! IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN!!!!

It's not "Glock" per se but it might as well be a 4th gen. The designers were former Glock designers. Charles Daly will be importing them fairly soon. http://www.akdalarms.com/ghost.html

+1?????????? Some of these 3rd world things can either be protest or celebrations.

This has been discussed before and the technicalities alone would bog this thread down for 5 more pages of arguing so....... what i have decided is to simply keep it concealed. If you are "working" you and your buddies shouldn't be drinking, so that would be in your benefit should something happen and if no one knows - well, no one knows. No harm, no foul. I would find it equally difficult, both legally and personally, if something happened while my gun was in the co-workers car. Say like it got broken into or stolen and I'm trying to explain to my co-workers surprise why there was a loaded gun in his car he didn't know about. At that point I have made my difficult situation his and possibly put someone else in a difficult legal position they neither asked for nor wanted.

I have used and really like the Phantom FH/Brakes. Work great and look good too. http://www.blackjackbuffers.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=76&products_id=339

This is the first thread on this. http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16089. Yours makes the third

Nah, it is an import issue. Being that it is made in Turkey they won't import "non-sporting" accessories. !BATF!

a little late:D http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16089