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No surprise.

I like 2 but it takes some adjustments to sit. It also dpends on the holster, cant, gun, and clothing. Some I can where in positions that I can't wear with others.

Nice. I much prefer the Mossy to the 870. Just like the action release and safety locations better.

Actually most test show that the newer stuff has overcome that issue. Hydrashoks are renowned for their clogging. they were great 20 years ago, but don't hold a candle to the newer offering such as HST, Ranger-T, Critical Defense, TAP, etc.

HST 124g +p in the G19. Also have a bunch of Federal LE and have TAP 124g on hand as well.

anyone use or know anything about them. Looks pretty good. Liger® Gun Belt - MAXPEDITION HARD-USE GEAR® (Primary innovator and premier manufacturer of outdoor, hunting and tactical nylon gear)

Yeah i posted that a while back. Very funny!

Interestingly enough we have know they had the technology and were trying it for a long time. It is just now that they actually had the nerve to test it. Yeah, we are definitley liking the "change"! i'm also glad that Napolitano doesn't think they did any damage! I feel so much safer.

any Glock action IIRC. Here is another article on them. Magpul Folding Carbine FMG 9 | The Firearm Blog

Yeah, it's pretty cool. There was one made in the 70's i think and than Magpul made one and then stated the would never produce it! I guess it was just to see if they could!:-\ http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg70-e.htm

could you transfer them to say, your lawyer or something to that affect, and skirt the issue?

I've been approached by quite a few family members about the whole process. Some are ready to go and others are a little hesitant. Not out of fear but just a little apathy I think. I've also noticed how much the conversations on the topic have picked up in general. A lot of folks at church are asking questions and many are in the process or have just gotten their permits. It's great talking to new HCP holders about holster recommendations and guns before Sunday School! A modern day parable of Ephesians 6:10-18!

Here ya go http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Products.aspx?CAT=241

Very helpful, Thank you. I watch the sessions and all the "table the amendment" "rolling it to the hill" etc can get a little confusing. I don't always know if I'm supporting or rejecting!

Welcome to the darkside! I'm still not comfortable talking about the 19 EDC!

You would think that, but you'd be wrong.

I watched the entire vote and all except 3 (I think) were by Hardaway. He had to make little speeches before every little amendment and then withdrew the majority of them. It was really annoying.

I think he is becoming a legend. Anyway, keep your mouth shut and your gun on.

Essential Arms makes their own. Great bargain lower.... if you can get one!

I guess we can start to glimpse why Europe/socialist can't get it together. they believe their own propaganda. I remember my late grandfather telling me about when he was teaching a seminar on agriculture and economics to government heads and educators of former soviet block countries at the University of Kiev in the Ukraine. He said the thing that amazed him the most was when he started talking about profitability in agriculture. He said that when they started talking about profits, hands went up all over. He spent the next hour explaining what a profit was and how you need to take in more money than you spend. He spent extensive time in the Ukraine and Argentina trying to get their cattle herds up and he would tell us all the time that they just don't get it. the socialist indoctrination is so deep it is hard to get rid of.

Correct. Sabre makes their own if i'm not istaken and they are considered high end good. I have one of their lowers on my AR build and am very pleased with it.

I think one of the most telling stats is the divorce rate among LE. My brief stint in I could tell it would be psychological, ethically, and spiritually draining for all the reason above. After being forced out of the Academy due to injury, I have almost decided there are other things better for my family. I don't think I will go back.

Again my friend facts. Fact is only one of these massacres have involved anyone with a permit, 2 the laws have actually been loosing in the last few years allowing more permits and ironically less gun crime. hmmm? I would post links but you would probably argue they were part of the conspiracy of lies to make socialism look bad. Nice call!

I like it..... when I remember it is there.

First off, socialism was a relatively benign term used for centuries to refer to many different things. It was Marx who made a popular and relevant term when speaking of politics and societal order. You are correct that socialism is not Communism. However, Socialism inevitably leads to governmental oppression in one or more of several forms of Government organization - Fascism, Communism, China's current hybrid, but all end with dicatators because someone has to be the ultimate arbotor. Wester judeo Christian sociatal organization is based on the fundamental principals of absolute truths/freedoms and mans free will. We are slowly changing those fundamentals and so the decay you see is as follows. What non- judeo christian societies use as a foundation tend to secular humanism and so man has to be the one who determines absolutes. So far no one has done that very well. Of course all this is mute becasue facts have already been discussed and ideas shared and yet you pose yet another sci-fi book explanation for why Crotia and socialism is so much better. BTW the Croats/Serbs/Gauls/Western Mongols have a very poor track record for governance and staying out of conflicts. In fact I do believe it is out of that region that every major conflict in modern history has originated, even going back as far as Alexander the Great.;) "None so blind as he who refuses to see." and that is why socialist contries can't get it together.