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Looks good. I'd like to get one of these when funds come available.

No he jumped out of that. I had some insurance business with him and then he disappeared. From what I gathered he was doing some overnight stuff and just got busy. I've tried to e-mail and call him but can't get a hold of him. He is a great guy. I too hope all is well with him.

Don't let one guys stupidity ruin your opinion of the whole. The main negative guy in this thread is known for this kinda junk.

Welcome. Where in NM are you? Went to grade/high school at SBEC in Southhaven and my parents escaped Shelby County to Olive Branch after I went to college.

Man that's really sad. He seemed to be turning things around. Why these guys can't figure out how to control themselves is beyond me.

Evidently you haven't grasped the concept of smilies.

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Eh, some folks have been saying that since before the caliber came out. Some just don't know, and some think they know. Military adoption is not what is driving the round anymore than the 6.5 Grendel. I'd say you are fine. If what he said was true, fewer manufacturers would be building these. As it is all the majors and most of the specialty guys have them in their lineup.

What's the deal with all these huge bucks this year? Must be global warming!

After having several XD's, Glocks, etc. I have to say I really like the XD's. The high bore axis is my nemesis though. Now if they could only get the 3.8 barrel with a slightly abbreviated grip they would be hard to beat for a carry gun.

Haha! The rifle was so nice I missed the bayonet laden Battle Mug!

Is that yellow? I'm hoping it's desert tan under weird lights.

If you are looking for something economical, but is head and shoulders above either of your two choices try the CZ P07. several places are running specials on them for around $300. It's Glock 19 size, holds 16+1, and can be either DA or SA. I've had the P11 and I can say it is not the best for you intentions. If you go with a Kel-Tec goo with the PF9. It si better than the P11 in every way.

Unfortunately I didn't get to go, but I will make a few observations. 1. It seems that most folks had very high expectations and that should say something for the kind of product the organizers are known for. (HG, TGO,.....) 2. The location seems to have been a bit of a hindrance for attendees (it was for me), but I imagine it was better suited for the folks putting it on. Being the first one that is completely understandable. 3. Although not all the vendors showed, it seem to have been what it was supposed to be for the most part. These things are incredibly hard to organize and put together and I imagine there is quite a learning curve. That being said, I bet the few details that created negativity will be addressed and the details that could put the event over the top will be evident at the next event. From what I've heard it sounded like a really good idea and will only get better as the learning curve diminishes. Some of you guys are pretty harsh and lead me to believe you haven't organized or lead in a major event along these lines. If you had you would be praising the event that it didn't have more problems than it did.

Don't know about real life situation, but the Kel-Tec PF9's I had would give me problems when rapid firing. As I went quicker my fingers didn't seem to be as flexible and tighten up. When this happened I didn't always let out far enough and would get dead pull. I can only imagine in a real life situation where motor skills are even more diminished it would be worse.

I understand what you are saying. I think part of the wow factor is the vast assortment of toys and accessories you can add/change about the gun. When you get tired of one thing you can switch to something else. This is probably why the big guys market the crap out of these. There is a huge aftermarket for these things. I look at them like i look at 1911's and Glocks. There are better weapons out there, but marketing, aftermarket support, and nostalgia keeps them going. If you want souped up .22 magnum rifle that is ammo sensitive, maintenance intensive, not terribly reliable depending on the previous points, delicate, and cost way more than most other platforms - then the AR is for you. If we were true to our utilitarian roots we'd all have AK's, but evidently looking cool has no price limit.

Amazing! Even though you missed the point entirely, it is interesting to watch your mind work. BTW - Reagan is referred to as The Great Orator.

"Faith without works is dead" and here lies the problem with politics today. We rise or fall in the moment based on an empty speech. Evidently we (Americans in general) are incapable of judging a body of work if the mouth is smooth enough. "A flatterer's words lead to destruction". IF you remember Reagan was not considered a great speaker until the end of his presidency. Reagan was a great orator because his deeds gave his words power. Churchill the same way. Even in a negative sense Hitler and Stalin. Obama knows what to say to keep people watching the right hand while the left stays it's course. We would be better off if we never listened to another political speech again. I think the Robes Pierre would agree. I would rather look at what he has done lately than what he says.

Generally yes. Some have an angled backplate that normal gear won't fit, but I believe there are adapters that can be used.

I will also add that while the milled receiver is a more desirable collector item, they do have a tendency to crack where the barrel and receiver join up. They are also heavier.

Of those you listed I like the XD the best. The SR9 seem to have issues and have been under a recall already. I like them they just make me uneasy. Taurus gives me that same feeling and I get the impression they are hit and miss. Though you didn't mention it, I have been using a CZ P07 and it is an excellent pistol, with a manual safety, hammer fired, and Glock 19ish size. I've had XD's, Glocks, and SIGS and I like the P07 the best. Plus they are going pretty cheap ATM. Think $300ish.

That's the best thing going right now. You can't convert to that extent for nearly that price. Plus they have the dimples, most Saiga's do not, and you might even get one with the third "x". If that matters to you.

The Bulgarians are very good and you can get them for less than $500 ATM. Saiga's are the way to go if you want the joy of doing it yourself. If not Arsenals have come way down and they are using Saiga's now and will be in your budget.

The "enemy camp" IS HIS camp! It's like saying my wife and kids are the enemy.

I trying to find out how to get involved in this sport. Any suggestions?