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Dave, there's no "fact" to support any type of profiling. Racial, or otherwise. You're wrong, though I suspect you'll never succumb to the fact. I know facts aren't your strong suit, since yet again you've danced around showing any evidence that there was ANY FORM of profiling, that you presented as "fact". It's not anyone else's job to prove anything except you. You presented the profiling as fact, yet there is no evidence to support the claim, quite the contrary actually, you're grasping at straws. Jesus riding a donkey man, you're unreal. You guys can have this guy, ignore list here he comes. I can't stand the mindf%ck that is DaveS any longer

Where did I ever say Zman was racially profiling TM? Post #203, and #206. That's where Dave I want you to explain why in post #206 you say that it's a fact that he profiled Martin. Back it up Dave. Now it seems you've changed your story (no surprise) and are saying that it's just what you believe. So, which is it? Fact, or belief? The 911 tape certainly doesn't support any form of profiling

My apologies then. It just seemed like you were pushing their buttons to get them riled up. I was being serious. I know Dave isn't a troll it just seemed like he was more interested in pushing buttons than having a honest discussion. Turns out I was wrong. You see, that's the thing...I'd be more impressed if that's what he was actually doing because admittedly, it irritates me for someone to not be able to hold up their end of a discussion. But like you said he's not interested in honest, fact-based discussion...but more opinions and feelings. You're giving him too much troll credit

I agree 100%. But where did Zman racially profile TM? Just some of Zmans comments on the 911 tapes, raises a red flag in my OPINION! That's all any of us have..and opinion. DS So if a 911 operator asks me what a person looks like, and I answer "he looks black", I'm racially profiling? Dave, surely you know better than that. Come on man. How about you go back and listen to the recording for a change You've just proved, yet again, that when you have no proof, you go back to saying it's your OPINION. That's all it was in the first place, it was never a fact as you stated. You see Dave, that 911 tape there, that's fact. That's not opinion. You see the difference?

Actually I'm not. I'm really trying to have a decent disccusion here... Dave S Then where's your proof Dave? This is why no one takes you seriously. You make a statement, people ask you to back it up, and you never do. You either ignore the question or you ramble about how it's your opinion. You're welcome to your opinion, but when you present something as fact you ought to at least provide proof to back it. Facts, please. FWIW, I believe O'Mara is by far the more competent legal mind in this case, no contest. I had to stop streaming because I was using my wireless data, but just from what I've seen he seems to actually engage in conversation with the potential jurors and get them to open up and volunteer information, where De La Rionda asks blanket statements and doesn't get anyone to talk

Zimmerman Trial: Myth Busters: Did Zimmerman really “racially profile” Martin? Andrew @LawSelfDefense Facebook: Law of Self Defense You get outta here with your facts and your logic Andrew, there's no room for that nonsense when people have feelings and opinions! Lol But seriously, Dave, read...and learn.

Actually, that's fact. It's been presented before. Even potential jurors feel the same way when questioned. DS It's a fact he was profiled? Proof Dave, where is it?

LOL but of course that's his opinion. Big bad "white guy" profiled the poor black "child". Did you really just post that crap in a thread filled with actual facts of the case? Can you not tell the difference between the two Dave? It's become painfully obvious you don't care anything about any facts presented in this thread, yet you'll take time out to post something like this. Guys, next week I'm gonna be on YouTube offering my expert opinions on how I believe Zimmerman is actually an alien. Be sure to tune in for my opinion, void of all facts. Then buy my "Zman is an alien" t-shirts I had made up. Financial gain aside, it has to be true if I believe it strong enough

Wow, what's crazy is I actually had her for psychology, years ago. I dropped the class because I'm not one to listen about ones "partner". She was no where near as bold as this shit then. If she had, I would have more than likely been kicked out of school

Lol this immediately got sent to all my family members. Great post. If people don't think God had a sense of humor, all it takes is a look around to prove he did

Oh ok, cool. I'm glad they kept moving forward with it. I'll get one just for the "up yours Feinstein" factor. Add it to my surefire 60 rounders and Lancer 48 rounds in my why not collection

I'd like to see a date when they added that to the website. I know at one point they were making them, then if I'm not mistaken they pulled production on them and discontinued the idea altogether. Maybe they just put it on the back burner a while

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I'm jealous. I wish I had a private place like that to shoot. I didn't realize you were just cleaning up after yourself. I'd be glad to come out and make a big mess with all my brass and then clean it up when I'm done. :D I've actually been thinking of having some buddies (tngo members included) out to have a good day of shooting. With wedding plans and everyone kinda holding on to their ammo due to the market it just hasn't happened as of yet. My goal is to at least have one this summer. If it does happen, I'll be sure to post a thread.

Oh I agree it's certainly not worth it financially to pick it up to sell, but I try to pick all ours up anyway just to keep our property cleaned up. I never shoot at a formal "range", we built our own on the family farm so we try to clean everything up whenever possible. I figured even if I only got a couple bucks out of it, it'd be worth it to help keep someone else shooting with what would otherwise go to waste. I'd love to start reloading just as another relaxing hobby, but right now it's not in the cards (getting married, still looking for a house with a garage/shop to set up in) But in the future, I'd absolutely love to. I can see it being like cleaning my weapons, very relaxing

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Good deal. Yeah for a while I was shooting a good bit of the blazer aluminum case and selling them to a metal recycling place but I'm phasing it out slowly and going to all brass, all the time. I'll look through some of mine today for the A-MERC stamp, thanks for the tip. No berdan primed stuff as far as I know, other than the small stash of steel case wolf I have leftover from when you could actually get it cheaper than brass. You're absolutely right, I need to get into reloading, especially as much as I shoot

Went a couple years back, it was a good time for sure. I'd love to do it again, but I've got nothing to ride/drive that it'd be any fun in. I took my car last time. And yes, it had air ride, it wasn't static. Although it wasn't much higher than pictured when we were carving corners

Lol I figure as high as 9mm prices still are, if reloaders are able to find components, they're saving a good bit. All of mine would be once fired. Fiocchi, Aguilla, Federal, Winchester, and S&B best I can remember. No brands that ought to be thrown out altogether?

This isn't a for sale thread, I'm just looking for advice for possibly a future sale. I don't want anyone thinking I'm trying to skirt the policies here at all. For those of you that reload, when you buy 9mm brass, do you look for a specific brand? For that matter, does it matter to you if it's all one brand? One brand better than the other? See, between my 9mm carbine and my glock 19 I shoot a pile of the stuff pretty frequently (more so than I should), so I thought in the future I might sell some of my brass to help recoup some of my costs and possibly help out a fellow TNGO'er as well. I realize there's not a lot of money to be made by doing this, but anything I made is better than it going to waste. I know very little about reloading so I figured I'd ask some of my TN brethren. Be gentle

You'll be back. I know that's twice you've said the same in this thread alone. Your "proof" gets disproven, then you either resort to name calling or asking if someone has been a LEO or EMT to make your "opinion" some how seem superior to theirs.

Anyone said barrel nut yet? Do you have your tools already to put it together?

While I don't shoot matches, I'd be happy to have a patch. I wear one of my hats with pvc dang near everywhere

So, how bout them Braves?

Have you ever worked in law enforcement? Dave What the heck difference does that make in any way? How many times do you need to quote me to compose a post Dave? That's a great little paragraph you wrote above, that had zero to do with what I actually posted, which was you basically calling us racists in case you need a reminder. But please, carry on explaining that you're a good guy and such (no one ever said you weren't that I recall seeing). I find it humorous you take offense to being called dude, yet you proceed to call us racist, bro, and home dawg. Dave, shame on you. What's good for the goose...