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To me, and I don't mean this offensively to anyone that likes fine, pretty weapons....I see it like this. A Kimber is something my wife would love. They're pretty, and fancy. She doesn't care that it may not be the best gun in the category for the money, she knows it looks great and it's popular, so she'll like it. To me, guns are utility items. Even my "nice" guns wouldn't be pretty by most standards. If a gun doesn't work twice as good as what it looks, I'm not interested. I guess that may be why I'm primarily a Glock guy, they work 10x better than they look lol

[quote name="that_guy" post="1122572" timestamp="1394424204"]What kind of bad experiences have you had with KImber. Just wondering, will you share your experience(s) with them please?[/quote] Sure, I don't like companies that blame extraction problems on a"break in period", I've owned pistols that required a break in period that never malfunctioned during that time. I sent the gun in and still had trouble afterward. There are problems that can be attributed to a break in period, extracting shouldn't be one. I won't go on into the whole ordeal with them simply because it was 2011 and from what I understand more recent customer service experiences have been overall better. I just know I have pistols I paid 1/3 the price of what I gave for the Kimber that I've been much happier with. Heck, I have a $105 Hipoint that has ran better. I may have had the dud, every company has them from time to time. I just know when I spend Kimber money I expect much more than what I got.

[quote name="that_guy" post="1122566" timestamp="1394423388"]I am sorry if i have pissed you off sir, but I believe I have adequately updated my question. And i thank you for your input.[/quote] Trust me, you've not pissed me off, i found it quite amusing. The pistols you listed are still two different animals, though. Beretta is what I would choose based on my less than impressive personal experiences with Kimber, and the fact that the Beretta you buy may very well be made here in TN

Surely you jest at "inferior quality". Even if you do, saying things like "just to piss people off" won't get you far around here If you want some sort of help, you might want to state what your purpose for this pistol will be. Are you going to carry it? Range gun? What? You've given us zero info to go on. If you truly want to talk about "inferior quality" you should buy a Hipoint...it will most likely run better than the Kimber you have your eye on.

Whut r u fellers talkin bout? Fotay calibah is da best! If youins caint carry wif da big dawgs u needs tah stay on da porch. That's what I hear when fanboys talk

As long as you like it, doesn't matter much what we think

[quote name="NashvilleStage" post="1118017" timestamp="1393608531"]Do you remember which thread that was? Getting some embroidered patches made wouldn't be all that expensive. Depending on the size & quantity, it looks like they would be in the $5-8 ballpark.[/quote] I'll do some digging here shortly. The discussion was on a pin vs. patch.

If you've seen some of the drop tests on GI vs. Magpul mags on reloads, the P-mags usually fair a lot better. You wouldn't think so, but they do. I've got a mix of both, but I like the Magpul stuff better, for no good reason

I know we've had the discussion regarding a Velcro patch before and the thread died.

I have to carry too much as is when we go shoot, another bag would be no bueno for me. Now a patch to go on my existing bag , I could do. I nearly always have my range bag, 2 ammo cans, and up to 4 or 5 rifle bags/cases. That being said, I really like my range bag. I never really bought into the idea until a couple years ago when I got a $50 one from Midway, I love that thing

[quote name="tnguy" post="1117261" timestamp="1393465281"]Quite a few places already. Some of the big names: tigerdirect.com playboy.com overstock.com Virgin Galactic Lamborghini Many places (including Amazon) via gyft.com (gift cards). Plus many smaller retailers.[/quote] Ah, I see. Perhaps I just missed it before, it has to be an agreed upon form of payment from individual companies, no forms of converting it to USD or the like. So to most people it's more nest egg (loosely used) until it's a more widely accepted form of payment, correct?

Have to admit, I've read the thread and still understand very little of it. But, something I think will be easy for some of you guys to answer is...How do I "spend" it? How or where do I exchange my 10,000 tickets for the $20 stuffed animal behind the counter?

Thing that gets me the worst....he's on the cover of Sports Illustrated. You think he's on that cover because of his ability? Look I don't care who or what you like, but there's no way in hell we should be celebrating this crap anymore than the man who's been in a monogamous traditional relationship

[quote name="peejman" post="1117031" timestamp="1393437973"]It's all about shot placement. If you can't shoot it accurately and relatively quickly, it's not a good defensive choice regardless of what caliber it is. A hit with a .22 is more effective than a miss with a .50 BMG.[/quote] This this and this.

[quote name="mikegideon" post="1116287" timestamp="1393303146"]This is some quality reading. An open letter from the three percenters to Connecticut Law Enforcement. [color=rgb(102,102,102)][font=Trebuchet MS][size=3][i]Let's assume that there are 100,000 non-compliant owners of military pattern semi-automatic rifles in your state. I think it is a larger number but 100,000 has a nice round ring to it. Let us then apply the rule of three percent to that number -- not to the entire population of your state, not even to the number of firearm owners, but just to that much smaller demonstrated number of resistors. [u][b]That leaves you with at least 3,000 men and women who will shoot you if you try to enforce this intolerable act upon them[/b][/u][/i]. [/size][/font][/color] [url="http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2014/02/an-open-letter-to-men-and-women-of.html"]http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2014/02/an-open-letter-to-men-and-women-of.html[/url][/quote] At the risk of sounding cliche....sh*t just got real people

I'll be following this closely. I honestly hope that for the well being of everyone they rethink this. Lots of blood could possibly be spilled if they try to go through with it, and I'd say rightfully so

Bus's had the best price with free shipping last month when I got my wife's. I'm on the phone or I'd link it

I've used alumahyde with good results, just don't spray it on anything with tight tolerances because it builds up pretty thick

[quote name="Smith" post="1115534" timestamp="1393187548"]Legally you can't and not supposed to be able to buy the vials separate. Being radioactive I believe there is only one or two authorized companies that can handle tritium for domestic commercial purposes. IIRC[/quote] What he said. I believe you MIGHT could source the vials from somewhere, but it's certainly not worth it to risk exposure to the stuff

That's just plain cool

I think there is another big thing we can take away from this. Note that the one intruder with the pistol was determined and tried to take another run at the door. Many people believe that at the sight or sound of a gun an intruder will go running. As we see, that's not always the case. We (everyone that owns a weapon) must be prepared to do what is necessary to stop that threat to our lives and our loved ones. I'm certainly glad this story had a happy ending, but from the bullet holes in the videos I saw that poor mother was just spraying and praying. Practice, practice, practice. Don't count on that criminal to run simply because you have a weapon. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

[quote name="TankerHC" post="1113462" timestamp="1392843278"]I would like to see a rimfire if there were postal matches set at. 22 F Class Standards for bragging rights. Would be very interesting. Not everyone has a 2000 dollar long range rifle but lots and lots of people have. 22s. But then there is that ammo thing at the moment. Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk 2[/quote] I like it

Sadly, the only history the majority knows is what they're taught in school. Blindly supportive is what most of these people are, and that's damn dangerous

I love people that carry 40 S&W and believe it's the be all end all. Actually, I love grinning at them when they tell me. But, but, it's the best of both worlds!!! Hehe

Easy. Trade me for my Gen 3 19. I mean...mines newer and all ;)