whitewolf001

Jack boots at large... Last I checked 80%'s are still okay.   http://fox5sandiego.com/2014/03/12/gun-store-owner-halts-federal-raid/#6Z6BoExdrRpxQWKd.01   OCEANSIDE, Calif. – An Oceanside store that sells various gun parts to build a rifle from scratch warded off a federal raid Wednesday.   Dimitrios Karras, owner of Ares Armor, said the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives agents were investigating their business, not for what they sell, but for the people who purchase their products.   Karras said the ATF threatened to shutter their business if they didn’t hand over the names of 5,000 customers who have purchased an 80 percent lower receiver (the base) for building an AR-15. It is legal to build a rifle from scratch without serial numbers only if the base is manufactured to ATF specifications.  The base is not considered a firearm if it’s sold separately. A manufacturer made an 80 percent receiver in plastic with a different material and colors which show exactly where the customer can drill making it easier and cheaper to build.  The ATF said it is illegal. The ATF sent stores, including Ares Armor, letters demanding they turn over the products and names of customers who purchased them. “They said either give us these 5000 names or we are coming in and taking pretty much anything – which is a huge privacy concern and something we are not willing to do,” said Karras. Karras’s attorney informed the ATF to pick up the receivers Wednesday morning at their Oceanside location, but the inventory was not the issue. The store owner said he will not comply with turning over their private client list. “They were going to search all of our facilities and confiscate our computer and pretty much shut our business down,” said Karras.  â€œThe government invades our privacy on a daily basis and everyone thinks its ok. This is one of those situations where hopefully the governmental institutions will come in say this is protected and no you’re not taking it from them.” In anticipation of a raid, they filed a temporary restraining order against the ATF, stopping them from confiscating their property, Karras said.  The ATF has a certain amount of time to respond. If the two parties do not reach a compromise, they will be in court for a preliminary hearing March 20.  

  Agreed 110%. Pretty sure some Nazi officers tried pulling the same thing...

Agreed with the Prowler sentiment. Way too under-powered. This, or this, should've been stuffed into the Prowler, THEN it would've been boss.

I was actually assigned 3 days detention for drawing an M16A2 in class when I was in 6th grade, that of course was a week(or so, can't remember, been a minute) after Columbine. Heck man, I didn't care about that, I just loved guns and those uptight nuns talked to my parents to which they got this reaction from my dad.

Remember that the charging handle has to clear it.

      ^^^That.

  Besides my kidding, please explain how this is excessive than any other shell?

So I wasn't the only one thinking this. I thought, "Man, that must be a ROUGH part of town and they MUST be on a first name basis with the area's responding officers." Would it be sorta like Ralph and Sam, something just nonchalant that's an every day thing, hahaha.

  Good thing about being a portly feller is that we have plenty of cushion to act like a built in limb saver.

  I feel like I had a stroke reading this... ;)

  It is for me. :D

Redfield Battlezone's are pretty awesome tactical scopes for a very reasonable cost. If money isn't an issue go for a Leupold or a Nightforce.

Once I get the new barrel in it will be loaded with Hornady Coyote 3" Magnum nickle plated 00 buckshot, because I want my intruder to know he got dispatched with nothing but the finest...

Is it the PSA kit or the P-Tac kit, I don't see any identifiers saying to the latter. The P-Tac kits have garbage triggers while the PSA kits have one of the best feeling out of the box USGI triggers I've felt.

Nice, got any glass for it yet?

Yikes, lesson learned I suppose. 

Arigatō Runco-san.

Gonna set some put back as soon as I can, next thing you know it will be like .22 and almost impossible to get.

Welcome to TGO cousin, my mother and sisters are from Adrian and my dad is from Maryland, I'm the only native of my immediate family, lol.

  Best joke of the year goes to...

Yeah, you got a steal on that rifle, I think I've seen em at shops around here in the $350ish ballpark. Welcome to the forum cousin.

Welcome to the forum and an early welcome to coming to the third most free state in the union cousin. ^_^   We'll try not to hold the yankee-ness against ya. ;)

Welcome to the forum from the southeast cousin.

Hopefully some peace can finally be had for this family. I would at least want to be able to bury her were I in their shoes. Such a sad series of events for them.   Bastards whom do things like this have a special place reserved for them in Hell, I hope the system rips their suspect apart. No amount of justice is going to relieve the pain of loss in that families heart.