whitewolf001

Not sure if this is someone over at TFB having fun with April Fools but if so, he's very convincing... Anyways, your luck may change if this IS true.   http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/04/01/hk-97-civilian-mp7/

They know when you're sleeping,  they know when you're awake,  they don't care if you're bad or good,  so just don't talk, for goodness' sake!

HIGH FIVE!

Meh go big or go home... ;) Do note that this is a joke as I assume you plan to haul with the Ford. If not, this isn't a bad option... :p

  Me too brother, these douchenozzles have gotta be stopped.

Correction, was the FBI and not the BATFE but my point still stands in the knee jerk reaction this got...

I mean seriously, they've got a bone to pick with us gunowners and it is, well 'always HAS' more like, really getting under my skin how 'transparent' this administrations motives are. This article could even relate back to the thread where we talked about over-usage of swat teams, while I dunno if they deployed any kind of ERT, the fact the FBI was mobilized to begin with is baffling when one uses logic. Why wouldn't they just issue the fine and be done with it? *Looks at current administration* Ah, right.... http://www.examiner.com/article/montana-ammo-casing-processor-raid-recalls-warnings-of-anti-gun-agenda-at-osha   "A morning raid was conducted against a Montana used ammunition casing processor by agents from the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Environmental Protection Agency Criminal Division and the Bozeman Police over “alleged violations of environmental law,” NBC KTVM reported Thursday, leading to speculation this week’s action ties in with that lead exposure violations identified last fall. “Occupational Safety and Health Administration, OSHA, workers found the company overexposed workers to lead and failed to provide basic safeguards to reduce lead exposure, including breathing protection and protective clothing,” the report recalls, noting “In September of 2013 the US Department of Labor cited USA Brass with 10 serious violations and proposed more than $45,000 in penalties and fines.” Why such apparent sweeping and coordinated law enforcement action is considered a justifiable and standard practice against American citizens and businesses is a fair question. Without a record of criminal activities and resistance meriting deployments backed by lethal force capabilities, an audit team with a warrant would seem more than adequate in the case of an established company that proudly bills itself an "industry leader." That makes it also fair to speculate on how agencies seemingly unrelated to the administration’s war on guns can be used to advance that agenda, and why appointments of anti-gunners to head such agencies pose valid concerns for gun owners, as the recent flap over Vivek Murthy for Surgeon General confirms, and in spite of â€œprogressive” objections that such fears are unfounded. Case in point, since OSHA is mentioned as a possible catalyst in Thursday’s Bozeman raid by other agencies, this column warned back in 2009 that Obama’s pick to head the agency, David Michaels, was strongly anti-gun and committed to using regulatory schemes to get his way. At the time of his nomination, this column advocated organized opposition, including scoring confirmation votes against gun group ratings and contacting the appropriate Senate committee, even reminding readers of Michaels’ organizational connections with George Soros (himself a backer of draconian international citizen disarmament efforts). That these appeals failed, first in committee and then by unanimous consent in the Senate, do not negate the rightness of such opposition. It points instead to a failure to heed warnings, something seemingly confirmed by the citation of an Illinois gun range for lead violations in 2012. While it’s fair to debate the appropriate Constitutional role of the federal and local governments in the issue of negligent exposure to lead and other health-impacting substances, the intent here is not to give reloading component processors or gun ranges or firearms-related industries a pass on legitimate liability concerns. That said, administration intent to go after gun owners and their suppliers every which way it can, the sympathies of key regulatory players, the all too-frequent use-of-force alliances between federal and local enforcers, and the all too often unquestioning “reporting” by “Authorized Journalists” should not be overlooked as potential factors behind such dramatic actions. Especially since finding novel ways to block ammunition supplies appears to be an ongoing priority with unaccountable federal bureaucrats."

      Is it bad I scrolled back up as fast as I could to rewatch this?

  Touché

Like pigeons playing chess...

Excellent read btw QuietDan, thanks for providing the link.

  The unfortunate thing is there are good folks living there, should we forsake them for the violence of a few? We'd be as bad as the Libtards whom condemn all gun owners and categorize them with murderers.

Welcome back cousin, it was the springwater that brought you back wasn't it? ;)

Fōramu no itoko e yōkoso! (Welcome to the forum cousin! *Japanese)

Welcome to the hills cousin.

They still import commercial 5.45 but the military stuff was awesome because it was SO cheap. It's one of the only calibers that's slightly more expensive to shoot than .22LR and quite cheaper than 5.56 or WAS rather...

  Well that IS about as strange as it gets but then, who knows, maybe here in 20 years that stuff will be worth its weight in Platinum.

I bought the Hornady reloading manual 9th ed. and I must say this is quite the overload of information, lol. I can get the Hornady 80gr A-Max for a good price, I think that's what I'm going to load first into some 5.56 brass and charge em to just under the red zone.   Won't non-jacketed rounds lead up the gas port?

Yeah, the LWRC REPR is in SCAR territory too. Another great choice but both are about $7-1000 more pending what kind of deal you get.

I miss my Ohio Ord Bulgy AK-74... sold it to my cousin and regret doing so ever since... -_-

Isn't that the funky cartridge made for the HK MP7? Why would one want such a proprietary cartridge? 5.7x28 is already bad enough...

Between these two, Sig hands down. But then, I'd save a bit more and get the FNH SCAR 17S myself... :D

Thank you, you've given me a new reason to check under my bed at night...  :hiding:

  I suppose you'd be correct in that statement though as I recall when MOE first came out, they didn't have the attachable rails but it was designed with this originally in mind or am I wrong? I can't really remember, been a minute or two...