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They are a lot of questions I have on both sides. I guess I'll have to read the book and watch the movie to get answers.   Dave S

Don't thank me yet.... Where is Zman's "Defensive wounds". He fought with TM, surely he got a couple licks in and didn't go straight to deadly force...or did he?     Dave S

Going Fishing!  There are some good areas right behind the Visitors Center at Cross Creeks. Some decent Channel Cats are being caught there.   I'm heading to Kentucky Lake...big water cat fishing. Anyting under 20 pounds "need not apply"! Happy fishing!   Dave S

Reckon why Zman reported to the police that TM was running away? I'm still baffled by that one....   Dave S

Exactly what I said months ago. "Stand your Ground" doesn't have any age limits, time limits, skin color requirements or dress codes that I know of. He'll get his day in court. We'll get to hear one side of the story.   Dave S

Where did I say I was Happy? And yes it's PLAIN WRONG, because he will never live a normal life again! He does have a wife. And she's in trouble for LYING to the Judge. Pity? Really? We don't know where this would be if the "peanut gallery" had stayed out. However, the COMMUNITY wanted justice in this matter. So the MEDIA says. Because you know only what I know, and we both heard it on the NEWS...there you have it!   Dave S

Oh, it doesn't impact me at all. I don't think this case impacts anyone's desire or ability to defend themselves. What I am afraid of is some yoyo prosecutor using case law to push for charges on a S/D shoot because "it can be done".   Absolutely in no way would I put into motion a confrontation with an innocent citizen walking down the street. Zman already did that and we see where this went. It's funny though, how some of the same folks that thought two Ohio cops questioning a man open carrying that wasn't breaking (at the time) any laws was investigated when a citizen complained was wrong, now think it's right for some "cop wanna be" to put a series of events into motion that cost a kid his life, who was doing nothing but walking home. Double standard opinions in my humble opinion.   Also, I think this will hurt our NW programs. How many people are going to be afraid now to be the "eyes and ears" of the neighborhood? Whether Zman gets convicted or not matters not to me. However, he set the wheels into motion. Now he has to answer for it. For him to be going to trial on this, someone knows something we don't.....   Dave S

Exactly!   Dave S

Let me explain. I think he is guilty. The jury will most likely find him "not guilty". Justice is being served right now. Look at his finances, He's ruined the rest of his life. And, considering the number of "hits" on him, and the fact that he will never be able to walk down main street USA without having to constantly look over his shoulder. If he goes to jail at all, he'll have to be kept out of general population, because someone will kill him! Zman doesn't stand a chance no matter which way this thing goes! I'm for JUSTICE here. That is all...Well, ya'll know my "OPINION".   So, even if he is "innocent", he is/will pay dearly and that's unfortunate. And in my honest opinion, I'm afraid that "case law" from this could be used against any one of us in this same situation.   Dave

I guess you just do what you think is right.....   Dave S

Good information, thanks for posting.   Dave S

Good stuff. Thank you for sharing!   Dave S

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I thought this was a discussion about our opinions on this case. Why and how is this becoming personal? I'm sorry I feel how I do. I'm sorry I gave to  the TM fund. Ya'll give to the Zman fund. I would respect you for that! You know the old saying  "put up or shut up.  Would kinda give ya more right to Bi*** about this case. Ease up dudes... We'll all have to wait to see what the jury says.   Until then...Popcorn, Beers and Cheers!!!   Later Dudes..(as in # 6)   Dave S

  Nope.....   :popcorn:   Dave S

I've listened to this a hundred times. Zman said he was wearing a "gray" hoodie. When and where did Trayvon ditch the black hooded raincoat the defense showed him wearing just minutes before his was killed? Just curious as to why that hasn't come up.   Dave S

You just don't know do ya? Why is this becoming so personal with you RN? This  is all based on our opinions and thats all. Dude, Home Dawg. Bro what ever you want to be called , you are way too into this thing!!! Yes, he chased TM down....what ever you want to call it. And I'll say for the 50th time...I HOPE HE IS FOUND NOT GUILTY. That will be his justice!!   Dave S

Awesome commentary RN! Sorry, I don't watch much TV.     Dave S

I agree TDR...but the "other" person who knows what happened is dead. We'll have to wait and see what the jury says. We'll all have to live with that decision want we?   Dave S

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No I didn't vote for Obama. I want to see abrasions and/or bruising to back up his claim of having his melon bounced off the sidewalk multiple times. I'ts just not there. I don't see the proof! Sorry. Even if I was investigating a domestic assault, I see no proof to back up Zman's claim of TM beating his melon off the sidewalk multiple times. The abrasions and bruising consistent with what he claims is not there that I see. And I fear, that experts will testify to those facts during the trial!   Dave S

Based on that photo, where is the proof, that his melon was bounced repeatedly off the side walk as he contends? Dave

If you were Zman or LEO, where is your probable cause to stalk, pursue, or even question TM' when he was not committing any crime? Where is it?   Dave S

Folks, Zman's  injuries to his head is not consistent with what he says happened. Thirteen years as an MP/Game Warden, 26 years as FireFighter/EMT, and the past couple years in LE, tells me his head DID NOT get beat off the sidewalk multiple times as he claims. The evidence and injuries are not there. I'm sorry my opinion don't fit your needs or agendas. Just my opinion and how I see things. Look at his "melon". What do you see? Where are the cuts? Does it at all show where his skull was smashed against the sidewalk? Show me the blood smears and show me the abrasions consistent with that type of injury? You can't. You see a cut where he bounced his head off the sidewalk when TM knocked him out, and one maybe from being kicked or hit in the head. You can't show me nothing else! Zman is a liar, and he has to pay! That's my OPINION, and mine alone! I left Sanford on Monday as I did not like what I seen. Oh well.....I stand by my guns on this! If you stand by yours, put your money where your mouth is, and donate to Zman...he needs it!!   Honorably signed....   Dave S