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Dang, that's sweet! Congrats!

It gets better. What do they call it, "un-intended consequences" http://patdollard.com/2014/12/eric-holder-moves-to-put-cleveland-police-department-under-federal-control/

Right on right right on!

It's goin the way of 219 million at least!

Congrats! That looks like a sweet rifle! If you get in a jam taking it out I can probably help you out  :x:

They do want it, they just don't know how bad it's gonna be!

Very well said Leroy! We have devolved decades in the last 6 years.

It everywhere though brother.

The sad thing is we can avoid these areas, I do it too, but this is the greatest country on earth and it just keeps getting worse. Formerly good neighborhoods are becoming bad neighborhoods due to the federally mandated fairness bs. Subsidized housing and so forth. I feel especially bad for the good folks that have been overcome in these areas.

I've used the link for the states data extensively, it's a great tool. The land is available due to a bankruptcy, the attorney handling that realized he couldn't get crap for it and gave it back to the owner to sell. I will use time and lack of options for the seller to my benefit. I appreciate you guys sharing your experiences and opinions. It's been difficult to get a realtor in the area to do the same.

That's good!

We seem to be overlooking the fact that this idea is based on a false premise, as with all things lefty. Cameras to fix a problem that isnt a problem won't fix the problem. A false narrative will always be false.    Maybe wapo has a good idea     "Three Reasons Why Black Men Should Openly Carry a Gun After Trayvon, Ferguson and John Crawford"   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/three-reasons-why-black-m_b_6245962.html?&ir=Black+Voices&ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000051

They'll still edit it for general release.

"The wizard of ooze" "Your brown is our green"

They have those shark bite fittings now too. They work great on pex.

Good point, I've really got nothing to lose by waiting or shooting very low.

Thanks for sharing, you mentioned riding 4 wheelers and this property is too steep, I rolled my sportsman while scouting it out, I realized then, it was steeper than it looked. 

Good points TDR and I could elaborate. It's not on the market, yet. The land is leftover from a subdivision that never really happened and it's not really build able, I would need to cut a steep drive to the top of the mountain, it'd be narrow and steep. No way to get concrete up there except helo or bags.   The land had already been select cut so the only harvesting I would do would be for firewood. I have searched similar properties in the area and came up with my thought of 1500 on that.    The main reason I'm considering it is it borders my property and I don't want some wing nut to get it and do who knows what. The property line boarders my home  and someone could actually look in my windows from there. Granted it's 4wd access only but you never know what people will do.   If I had the cash it wouldn't be much of a problem but I don't, so I'd rather not pay more than needed.    I will draw up an offer with taking all of the factors into consideration, put it in writing and mail it to him. He's in a different state. I appreciate the input folks! Truly helpful!

The land will be divided, it is a 32 acre plot but I'll wind up with 26. The land I won't get is actually build able. The rest is steep wooded mountain. 

Me too,, it depends on the situation. If i'm in thugville it's a .40 or .45, around the house and property it's usually a MKIII with 2 extra mags :)

Hey folks,  I'm reaching out to se if anyone here can offer land value advise. I've used the county tax base and compared surrounding land but have not found a firm answer.   I'm looking at 26 acres in Jefferson county, all of it is wooded and steep, pretty much useless except for hunting and wood harvesting. The owner is asking 2600+ an acre, I think 1-1.5k an acre is more like it.    The county thinks it's worth about 2500 acre but the sale will remove the useful plot for a different buyer.      Any help would be appreciated.

There are too many folks out there asking for money, caps on election spending are needed and it might even make for more fair elections.

Not sure bout the #, just do some homework in the web. We replaced our last year and looked up all kinds. I remember finding an issue with the smart (?) type. They had a problem with temp reset. Warranty info and reviews are online, good luck!

Limesicles suck! I went the water softener route 12 years ago and never looked back. Won't do without one again. Besides saving other appliances from the calcium buildup, it takes a lot of Nast out of the water. I've had em on wells and especially city water, that stuff seems like pure chemicals anymore.

You get stuff from mda? You must be on their list they got from nanny or bho.