Oh Shoot

  The perp was drunkernhell ... sounds to me the guy with the gun showed enough restraint to get the Nobel Peace Prize.   - OS

  You can possibly still do that, but it's simply gonna take a lot longer to ferret out the parts since straightforward search terms won't get the same hits as before.   Btw, I voted no pref -- since I seldom have a PayPal balance, most all my PayPal payments are funded through credit card anyway, so if there's ever something significant PP can't rectify for me, I'll just contest it with the CC company.   The only time I use bank account for funding is if I'm sending freebie bucks to someone so I don't have to pay the fee. Also have to use that for the PP shipping service for non-eBay stuff if I don't have a PP balance at the time.   - OS

  They actually have tightened up on that again. You can't sell them, except you sort of can.   Prohibited: "Parts or accessories for assault weapons. Listings that mention capability with an assault weapon, even if the part or accessory fits non-assault weapons, are also prohibited."   So, yes, you can still buy AR and AK, etc parts, but mentioning the firearm by that name can get your auction ended, with a warning. Happened to me not too long ago actually, selling off some AK grips.   And note that eBay doesn't give you a list of exactly what "assault weapons" are verboten, no actual firearm name list, and a phone call didn't help clarify either, except that I couldn't use the term "AK" or "AK47" in a listing. So it's become a bit of a cat and mouse game with listing procedures, mostly just done by caliber description now by ongoing vendors. With "amateur" sellers like me, it's sort of an inconsistent whack-a-mole procedure, just like when eBay was flooded with hicap mag listings back during the panic.   - OS

  Again, I post definition from TCA:    "Deadly force" means force that is intended or known by the defendant to cause or, in the manner of its use or intended use, is capable of causing death or serious bodily injury.   I can see no way a warning shot rises to that standard. No intent and manner/intended use not capable. Even if some long odds happened and guy was hit with a ricochet from a rock in the ground or something, still can't see it rising to that standard -- same as if it hit an innocent bystander, it raises the possible stakes for culpability on both criminal and civil levels, but not because one applied deadly force.   For example, even if an assault results in serious bodily injury or death, it remains aggravated assault unless deadly force as defined were "intended or known". That's the difference between assault and homicide or attempted homicide. There's also behavior, including that with a firearm, that would fit under reckless endangerment. Hell, even shooting into an occupied dwelling can be "just" reckless endangerment unless I guess it can be shown that the shooter was able to draw an actual bead on a person or something.   Maybe a criminal lawyer will disagree, maybe they would disagree among themselves which is not uncommon either, dunno.   - OS

  Well, far as that goes, same idiot could still have charged him with the firearm discharge even if he had killed the guy in justifiable shoot. Justifiable self defense of yourself or another removes you from any charges within the weapons section of TCA, but doesn't cover local ordinances.   Logic. Right.   - OS

  Reasonable justification of self defense is the key, at all levels of force. There's no specific state crime that firing a weapon into ground necessarily rises to.    But yeah, if he wasn't justified in doing that, then he probably wasn't justified in showing a firearm in a threatening manner period, in which case either would be aggravated assault. But logic would say that since the other guy was charged with that, one would assume then that shooting the firearm into the ground at the least was justified.   Then again, there's nothing in TCA regarding this sort of thing that says you can't be charged for some bs local ordinance regardless of your lack of culpability for state level charges.   - OS

  Not sure what you're trying to say.   In TN, self defense allows "... threatening or using force against another person when and to the degree the person reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to protect against the other's use or attempted use of unlawful force." This would include everything from slapping someone on the wrist to blowing his head off, depending.   In this case, I guess they decided the guy wasn't justified in shooting into the ground. If not, they could have charged him with a higher crime, such as assault or reckless endangerment or whatever, but chose to say "tsk tsk" with a tacit wink by hitting him with the city ordinance only.  Or they could just be plain ole el stupido about the whole affair and shouldn't have charged him with anything. Guess that will sort out in court.   - OS

  TN law doesn't say any such thing. Firing your weapon into the air or ground and using deadly force are certainly not the same thing.   " "Deadly force" means force that is intended or known by the defendant to cause or, in the manner of its use or intended use, is capable of causing death or serious bodily injury "   Even unjustified intimidation with a firearm, which can be aggravated assault, does not rise to the level of using deadly force. Which would be the difference between that and attempted murder.   - OS

  Language of the Left.   "buy back" "gun safety" "common sense" "gun show loophole" "assault weapon" etc   And number one on the hit parade:   "We don't want to take your guns".   (except this one and that one and this type and that type and ....)   - OS

  Sounds fair enough to me I guess. Sucks a bit regarding the citation, and ya wonder if simply showing the heater wouldn't have sufficed,  but better than having to shoot the guy, and of course I wasn't there.   - OS

So, they've cut into all progamming (on Comcast at least), FIVE friggin times in the last hour or so.   The first 3 times, there was no audio, no information at all. The 4th time, there was audio which only said when the alert was issued. The 5th time, finally, there was a description, with no real info past Hispanic, mom with 1 year old, fled St. Louis.   And of course the damn things always last 3 times as long as the actual information imparted before they finally go away.   Seen a lot of that lately, completely information free cut ins. Whoever is in charge of this system should be fired immediately.   /rant   - OS    

So live and learn .. scratch a serial number into them next time, eh?   - OS

Penny for the Guy... - OS

  And  Fort Hood.   Actually, maybe it was that YouTube video that caused it, eh?   - OS

  Yep.   Of course, practical enforcement ain't all that here. Like, grammar school = el freako, high school=YMMV, college = near zero enforcement.   - OS

It's over if somehow Trump survives as the candidate. But I've picked Rubio from early on as eventually getting the nod, hope I'm right. Only he and Carter are polling close to Hillary head to head -- I believe Ben will be eventually be revealed as Chauncey Gardner. - OS

  Kali attorney's overview:   "For Schools K-12, no knives with blades longer than 2.5 inches are allowed unless they are required for particular work type duties. Razor blades and box cutters are also prohibited. .   For colleges and Universities, no fixed blades bigger than 2.5 inches are allowed. However there is no restriction on folding knives as long as they don’t fall under the category of switch blades."   - OS

  Beretta 92/M9 has firing pin block also, can't go off with hammer down even with impact on it. I suppose most current SA/DA are same?   - OS

  ATF likely queried the manufacturer on behalf of Texas LE as Garufa outlined above. Not sure records like that are necessarily divulged to just any LEO who asks.   - OS

  Meh. Gray man, go along to get along and all that. Having nothing better to do doesn't mean I want to waste the time not doing whatever that other thing is. :)   Besides, it's probably in the fine print in the membership agreement somewhere.   - OS

  I'd want that Glock with the safety from very first episode. ;)   - OS

  As I mentioned much earlier in thread, Morgan already had a heater on his hip anyway at that time, so he's not exactly anti-gun per se.   - OS

  Yep, bound books and 4473s should be in the ATF National Tracing Center in Martinsville.   - OS

  This. A "civil war" or "revolution" requires two armed sides willing to ally against the other, and we just don't really have those, nor can I see them developing.   But anarchy is a very real possibility -- there you have millions of "sides".   - OS

Government would love a world with no internet for the populous. Double edged sword and all.   - OS