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Most low carbers continue caffeine, I did. Atkins recommended against it, many doctors recommend against it for diabetics and/or border line diabetics, unless you test to see if it causes insulin spikes. Same reason Atkins recommended against aspartame. Not "only" water. If tolerated, coffee and tea, diet drinks (preferably without aspartame), club soda, sugar free Kool-Aid...) Well, we're conditioned to what we "like". I remember growing up, 2% milk tasted like water to me, now it tastes like milk, and whole milk tastes like cream. Although milk is a high carb no no - cream is okay. Weird, huh? Certainly agree about pills, unless you want to be a speed freak as you can certainly lose a lot of weight with meth and other amphetamines!, but low carbing goes back a LONG way. Indeed, even our grandparents and certainly great grandparents and further back were much closer to low carbing than in the last 75 years of so of American consumption of empty carbs. Hell, half our kids may be diabetic before they're thirty. White bread and Twinkies may well kill more of us than cancer. Of course, low carbing actually hearkens all the way back to hunter/gathering times, before agriculture (of especially tubers and corn). I hope you do. Don't know how overweight your are, but Type II diabetes will require a very restrictive low carb regimen, oral insulin or injections, and constant blood sugar monitoring, or Truly Bad Things happen. I'm still at elevated risk myself, and I'm "only" maybe 25 lbs over optimum. I think I've now talked myself into getting back into what I'm preaching! - OS

Yahweh, Allah, Christian God (although he is also sort of a triumvirate), are the "true gods" of the current Big Three, of top o' my head. Although them Sikhs, Baha'is, and even Rastafaris think their Big Guy pretty much stands alone, too. Then you've got the Unitarians, who'll burn a question mark on your lawn. - OS

Good points. One stat that definitely will go down is the number of handguns stolen from cars in restaurant parking lots. Or maybe not, actually, if all the most popular places post. - OS

I don't even own a Glock, but agree that the G19 is one of THE best pistols ever produced. Ever. - OS

I like broccoli, but not THAT much . Unless you're doing the really strict phase, green beans, all kinds of greens, brussels sprout, etc. And of course, about any of the normal salad stuff. I love artichokes, too, they're fine. Corn and taters bad. Yeah, pork rinds become your crackers, put all kinds of things on them.My fav on them is cream cheese and anchovies! Really, the two hardest things doing low carb for me are mostly matters of inconvenience: - eating out, unless you do food bars, it's hard to get a low carb meal, athough any burger joint just get your normal burger and toss the bun, eat with fork. Triple mentioned no mayo...dunno what he's doing, mayo is a Good Thing on low carb. - making sandwiches. You really can't. So making something to go you must be more creative. Those years of doing FedEx, I'd just mayo ham or turkey slices and wrap em around cheese and onion, whatever. Deviled eggs, stuff I could eat while driving between stops! Speaking of Shoney's this Sat, actually breakfast is a good low carb meal, just no biscuits, grits, pancakes, taters. But all the good ole greasy bacon and sausage and ham and eggs you want. I need to take my own advice and get these damn 15-20 lbs back off and quit just talking about it. - OS

Well....obviously if you consider it a "diet", it won't work. It can't. It has to become a Way Of Eating. I won't get on the soapbox regarding low carb, nor am I willing to take on the many urban myths people "hear" about it and repeat. You say you've tried them all, but I have no idea for how long or how seriously, or even with whose advice and guidelines. And I'm not a Carb Nazi - matter of fact I need to take my own advice and get a little more strict again, as I'm put back on about 15 (right around the middle of coure) of the 55 lbs I dropped back in '03. It came off about as fast as it went on after I quit smoking But if you'll just give up the following, for just SIX WEEKS, unless you are among the 5% or so who have some highly resistant "other" factors, I think you'll be amazed: all potatoes of any kind and all "dark" beans (pintos, navy, black, etc) all pasta all bread (includes pizza crust and fried batter and cereals) all sweets (including fruit and of course sugared drinks) Oh yeah, best to not drink anything alcoholic, but if you drink beer just substitute equal amount of alcohol in liquor). Eat all the veggies (green and white like cauliflour), eggs, meat, cheese, nuts, you want. You can have pure whipped cream, flavored with Splenda if you have sweet cravings. Don't eat those **** Atkins or any other "non sugar" candy with sugar alcohols in them, they'll just make you crave real sugar and probably give you the runs, too, if you eat enough of it to be "happy". Eat until you are full, not until you absolutely can't hold any more. But don't worry about calories. Really. Drink lots of water. Really, more than you likely are now, more than the "8 glasses per day. If you drink diet colas, try like heck to avoid aspertame. While it may or may not be actually harmful, it generally triggers sugar cravings, and indeed, in many people, triggers insulin rush just as much as real sugar. (and of course, the real threat of obesity from a high empty carb diet is Type II diabetes; matter of fact, it's more than a "threat", it's damn near a certainty.) Continue what you're doing with the walking. More excercise is better, any is good, but you should lose weight regardless. This is not a low CALORIE diet. I lost weight eating well over 3000 calories per day. Calories may be created equally, but they are not consumed equally. It is not low FAT. Fat can be 40% of daily intake. My cholesterol and triglycerides levels came back into normal AFTER increasing fats, decreasing carbs. My reflux problem disappeared in a week of induction (very strict) level low carbing. My violent ragweed allergy went to almost zip (many people report allergies much improved with low carbing - there's a reason but won't go into it here). You should see a pretty dramatic difference, especially since you have so far to go. If you like what happens and how you feel, you can look further into doing it correctly for long term. And you don't have to give up your lovely carbs forever, either. Once you hit ideal weight, you add them back and find how many per day you can handle without gaining weight. If you want to get more serious from the gitgo, or during this, or just want to check the science, get a copy of Atkin's New Diet Revolution at used book store for .50. If nothing else, it's full of nifty meals and snack ideas. It's only for six weeks. Just my advice since you said you were open to some. best o' luck, - OS

39-17-1359. Prohibition at certain meetings "...The sign shall be of a size that is plainly visible to the average person entering the building, premises or property and shall contain language substantially similar to the following: PURSUANT TO § 39-17-1359, THE OWNER/OPERATOR OF THIS PROPERTY HAS BANNED WEAPONS ON THIS PROPERTY, OR WITHIN THIS BUILDING OR THIS PORTION OF THIS BUILDING. FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THIS PROHIBITION IS PUNISHABLE AS A CRIMINAL ACT UNDER STATE LAW AND MAY SUBJECT THE VIOLATOR TO A FINE OF NOT MORE THAN FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS ($500)." -------------- 39-17-1311. Carrying weapons on public parks, playgrounds, civic centers and other public recreational buildings and grounds. "...Each chief administrator of public recreational property shall display in prominent locations about the public recreational property a sign, at least six inches (6²) high and fourteen inches (14²) wide, stating: MISDEMEANOR. STATE LAW PRESCRIBES A MAXIMUM PENALTY OF ELEVEN (11) MONTHS AND TWENTY-NINE (29) DAYS AND A FINE NOT TO EXCEED TWO THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS ($2,500) FOR CARRYING WEAPONS ON OR IN PUBLIC RECREATIONAL PROPERTY. " - OS

Wasn't gonna bring a shottie, but hey, with an offer like that I'll pop at a few, see if can hit one with 18" barrel. From the hip. I've got one box of 7 1/2 shot I'll donate for anybody to shoot. (12 ga.) - OS

Nope. Parks must use proper signage, and that signage is more specific than for a normal business, specifies size and verbiage. None of the "substantially similar" stuff of the business statute: "...shall display in prominent locations about the public recreational property a sign, at least six inches (6²) high and fourteen inches (14²) wide, stating: MISDEMEANOR. STATE LAW PRESCRIBES A MAXIMUM PENALTY OF ELEVEN (11) MONTHS AND TWENTY-NINE (29) DAYS AND A FINE NOT TO EXCEED TWO THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS ($2,500) FOR CARRYING WEAPONS ON OR IN PUBLIC RECREATIONAL PROPERTY." - OS

Titan, one often touted is the Center of Mass. Can be used with cable in car, or bolted into car frame, or carried, as on airline. "Meets Transportation Security Administration (TSA) guidelines for transporting your weapon in your checked luggage when flying." In Car Gun Safe I have one, it's pretty good for the price... It'll only hold one pistol, extra mag, and a box of 50 ammo, in the case of my XD 9 though. And that's the large one, I see no reason to get the smaller one. Also, most folks say that the hard plastic case from the pistol maker that the gun comes in will qualify, as long as it has holes in handle for a lock. Some do, some don't. Pelican makes some you might can find locally. Really, any hard case, metal or plastic, that has either built-in lock or hole for padlock seems to suffice for TSA rules. - OS edit: the Center of Mass can be had off Cabela's, Midway, CTD, I forget where all I've seen them, although they don't call it by that brand name; seem to have a manufacturing/re-branding agreement with Center of Mass.

Outstanding. One of the niftiest things about these get-togethers is meeting TGO cyber folks in the flesh. - OS

Oops, missed that, need to read instead of skim. - OS

Some folks say you can call your local PD and they'll run check. Some say they'll only do it if you show up in person with the gun, so they can grab it if it's stolen. Why don't you call yours and ask? - OS

I prolly won't eat either, I'm not a breakfast person, unless I have it for supper. But don't be late, or you won't know where we're going, 'cause I don't either! Look forward to meeting you and some others I've only seen online. - OS

What else? Think we're going to shoot right there inside Shoney's? - OS

Yep, it's my SP101 for sure. I just carry 6 in the speed loaders; I know some folks say five is quicker, that the 6th one gets in the way, some say just do 3 and get back in the fight. I dunno, just one more round rather than one less. Only reason I don't EDC it was I finally decided I felt more comfy carrying semi with more rounds. - OS

If one isn't trying to pocket carry, I see no advantage to polymer Kahrs. I own one only for that reason. - OS

That's why it's not "all around" best - OS

Well, true, I wasn't thinking back to Greek and Roman and etc. mythologies, just current mythology. - OS

Most all gods claim that. - OS

Good points. Actually, I thought we were meeting first to be vetted by NSA. - OS

When did they not? - OS

None of us knows where Jason lives, main reason to meet at Shoney's... - OS

+1 OP said "best all around". SP101 if you want to shoot and well conceal IWB/OWB. You can hammer nails with it all day, .357 isn't painful, .38 +p is comfy, and .38 target loads are like .22s. Yet still quite small physical size. If you have to have pocket pistol that you don't care about shooting all that much: SW Jframe .38. - OS

The "Bearden" one across from Kroger shut down. - OS