Oh Shoot

  Also, FireFox on Windows remembers the last magnification setting site by site, but IE doesn't.   Also also, CTRL+0 returns to default size without having to step it down.   - OS

  Like CZ9MM, I wouldn't really call him a troll. I've noticed his posts were always a bit, um, "off" from the beginning, and for some reason this thread and this evening was the time he just cut loose.   I must say I was impressed with all the material he had in whatever form to paste in such short succession, and thing was, it wasn't at random, but usually in direct response to something said by another, and again, dang near instantly too.  So it really was more like dedicated "work" than anything else, evangelistic in fervor but not in conventional content, that's for sure. And I'll bet it would have been near inexhaustible too.   And seems obvious we're talking years of "study" behind it all, too. Quite impressive all in all I think -- maybe there's something that neatly fits from the DSM, but I'm dubbing it dedicated dementia with overtones of high function lunacy. :)   - OS

  He reminded me to be thankful for small blessings -- like sanity.  ;)   - OS

  Yer very far indeed from preachin to the choir by chiding me with that. :)   - OS

  Heh heh, you said "schlong", heh heh. :)   Seriously, I never heard it used that way, that's good!

This is the most popular one I grew up around, at least among Baptists. How could them folks not like hippies too? :) - OS

  Wow, that version must be quite the precision piece of work, huh? ;)   - OS

  Yes, he's hitting on her. She didn't exactly say no, just that he needs to evolve a bit more or some such, and he agreed.   - OS

Seems since he likely had purely Levantine Jewish ancestry, Jesus would likely be a couple of shades too dark to pass a white supremacist's muster. Any number of mainstream Christians would probably be at least taken aback, too. :) FWIW, the BBC/Discovery forensic anthropology type "restoration": My Mom saw that special on TV and called it "sacrilegious". I think blue eyes would have helped, like Jeffery Hunter in "King of Kings" :) - OS

  (looked it up, so edited)   Sure. Folks say to keep the stuff for the original config around to be totally okay just in case, but not sure why, as there's no requirement to notify ATF for a temporary or permanent change or even when removing it from NFA purview entirely. All that is "recommended" only.   - OS

  Irony:  if they could see Jesus, they probably wouldn't consider him a white man.   - OS

  Wow, "non-Caucasian peoples have no souls and therefore can never earn God's favor or be saved" and such.   And I thought maybe he was just a misguided Pastafarian or something. ;)   - OS

  Where does it say a handgun has to have less than a 12 inch barrel, is that only for carry?  I have a letter from an ATF agent that says there is no legal limit to how long a handgun barrel can be.    Yep, Federal law has no defined min or max for a handgun barrel, but of course the States have beaucoup more stringent laws than federal.   TCA 39-11-106: Definitions "Handgun" means any firearm with a barrel length of less than twelve inches (12'') that is designed, made or adapted to be fired with one (1) hand."   So I suppose technically you could be charged with illegal carry of a firearm for having a certain Buntline Special or a 12" AR pistol or whatever on your person in public. Nowhere does TCA state what a firearm of that config becomes however, nor that it is illegal to own/possess one in general.   On the other hand, TN allows 2 shots to be fired with one trigger pull, and they won't use any state resources to enforce federal firearm laws, so we've got that going for us. :)   - OS

Hey, now, the FSM is not to be mocked either, show a little respect for other deities. - OS

  Okay, okay, I'll concede they had some training, whatever. Maybe they are freer to shoot in Belgium or somewhere, maybe they trot over the friggin Balkans now and then -- lots of places you can go with a long day's drive or less. Or maybe every one of them did indeed go all the way to Syria for some AK hands on, but I doubt it. Certainly somebody has to at least show them how the damn things operate and how to trigger their suicide belts, etc. But anyway, not my main point, don't much care what training they got or where.   Before this went awry, my original contention was simply that the primary perps would be found to be second/third generational citizens, and not outside insurgents slipped into the country. And that seems more than borne out, with the one possible exception so far.  And remember, they've rounded up 15 or more other "organizational players", most just under "house arrest", and I'll wager than most if not all of them are citizens also.   My whole point is that existing Muslim communities are now going to produce terrorists, primarily from the 2nd and 3rd generations of original immigrants, native born folks, even though their families have for a generation or more have lived in peace. Not in assimilation by any means, but in peace at least. And I keep applying that to here, where we have the same degree of non-assimilation and clumping of Muslim communities, and where whatever level of training you do think is necessary for this sort of thing is easily available, from simple firearm familiarity to commando tactics, and it doesn't require participation in a civil war to provide them.   Where we primarily disagree is that you seem to see the actual massacre itself as some uber sophisticated maneuver to pull off, and I just don't see that. While of course most of the press uses "sophisticated" to refer to it, I've also heard some intelligence types describe it as quite simple. Perhaps the difference in points of view is referring to the sophisticated degree of overall planning and secrecy necessary to pull it off vs the quite simple execution of the even itself. So yeah, the first was pretty sophisticated but the second was quite simple:   I mean, c'mon, three or four places were sprayed with gunfire from moving cars. That happens all over urban America for c'sakes with no training at all except that acquired on the job. :)  And I don't see commando split second timing as necessary to simply run armed into a club that had no security beyond an unarmed bouncer or two. Hell, I could do that myself. ;)   I mean really, just select the targets, assemble the folks willing to do it, pick the time, and say go. I do agree that the organizational ability to simply get hold of the weapons and especially the explosives in the first place was fairly sophisticated, especially the suicide belts, but only because of all that being more difficult to secretly amass in Europe in the first place, the OPSEC part being the most impressive part of the whole thing in my opinion.   Here, I guess the full auto would be the toughest get, not that full auto is even at all necessary though, and as far as explosives, just look at what US gangs, white supremacist bubbas, and other "normally" radical groups and whatnot have come up with. :)   So I still say that we'll continue to see the majority of this sort of thing in the future coming from the Muslim citizenry of these various first world countries, and the main point -- I don't think we'll continue to be as lucky as we have been here regarding the same.   The only truly essential prerequisite for the success of these kind of attacks is not just the will to do it, but the acceptance to die while doing it. That's not so much ingrained in traditional American culture except in fairly rare extreme heroic responses,  but it certainly is just business as per usual in the jihadist mind.   - OS

  The citizens traveled freely to Syria as I understand it, they didn't need a backdoor secret way to do it.  But the point remains, they were almost all citizens, that has been easily verified, doesn't matter where they learned to shoot, in Belgium, France, or Syria.   Dunno about practical limitations on places to shoot in these various European countries, but certainly here in the US, there is absolutely no reason to go outside the country to get familiar with your weapons of choice. Then all that is necessary is the will, no real tactical training beyond a familiarity with the general area and specific venue necessary to rack up some large body counts.   Exit strategies call for the most elaborate planning -- if you don't care about that, mayhem becomes pert damn simple.   - OS

  Seems only 3 or so from what I can glean, and looks like for only fairly brief "training". But whatever,  the main point stands, they were citizens, not foreign fighters who were slipped into the country for a tactical hit.   But that aside, just how much "discipline and training" does it take to spray AK fire from a moving car, or to wade firing into a packed concert bar full of unarmed people?  Especially if you're perfectly willing not to survive the encounter?   We've been lucky so far that our mass killers have all been relatively incompetent.  Neither Lanza nor Holmes for example were even "shooting range" competent with their firearms, let alone had any tactical training, plus both being full tilt bozo crazy probably contributed to their ineffectiveness -- Lord knows that given the will, even OhShoot could have racked up a far higher body count in either scenario, especially if given the fanatical will to keep on until stopped, with no concern for actually escaping.   Just a couple folks with just average range skills can do tremendous damage with only semi-auto fire in crowded venues, and we're undoubtedly going to see more of it here, and by more competent perps, most likely of the radical Muslim persuasion, most likely by US citizens, and most likely from those who have never even been out of the country.     - OS

  Gluten free is still high carb, that's the real prob for most of us.   - OS

Good tip there, the mention of the cheaper and better Kel-Tec peep is actually making me lean toward doing this next time I can blow off some bucks on something I really don't need at all. :) It would look pretty cool on this baby though, I admit, and I'd probably even be able to hit a certain part of a pie plate instead of just the plate period (most of the time), as the rear sight really is pretty crummy. :) - OS

  Nor then according to you, a "good (real)" man.   - OS

I guess if I cared enough to optimize the thing, I'd go with the TWS "Dog Leg" cover with peep, whether I used another optic or not. Reviews say it's good and solid the way it latches in, doesn't change when popping cover open and closed:

  Yep. What's Bill or any other guv gonna do, meet the federal immigration buses at the state line and fire on them?   And sure, after the fact, anyone with a green card can legally go anywhere he likes -- hell, realistically even total illegals can, eh?   I still say this whole hoopla is a drop in the bucket compared to the ongoing threat of radicalized second and third generation Muslim US nationals, regardless of what part of the world from which they originally immigrated. That one possible Syrian refugee kid in Paris didn't make that happen, it was all the French and Belgian citizens that did it.   - OS

Yep, WASR. But hurry.   - OS

Most do a red dot by changing to a railed top cover on fore end, or drilling and/or tapping dust cover for one of several add on rails, several makers.  Also, TWS  makes a railed replacement dust cover that locks in better than the stock one, supposed to not vary like normal one.  They also make a peep sight, but you still I think need their dust cover to mount it. (http://www.texasweaponsystems.com/product-p/32316.htm)   Here's just one thread in arfcom section, if you look around in that section you can find more.   http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_4_98/159777_What_s_the_most_solid_way_to_mount_a_red_dot_on_the_M92_Pap_.html   Also, if you can find it, Dolo made a custom peep from the existing sight on one he had for awhile, using a steel washer or similar.  I couldn't find it right off maybe he'll chime in.   I decided to just live with mine for a while, probably for good -- one thing, did you black out the white number and dots on it? That helps a lot actually. Some also file it into more of a V notch.   - OS

  Sounded like him to me.   - OS