Oh Shoot

Well, some statements are just absurd on the face of it, regardless of who makes them, and "you are not even allowed to enter the projects if you are a non-resident" falls right in there. So I live there and - my brother can't come over for dinner? - my mother can't come visit me? - my girlfriend can't come over for a little of the old in-out in-out? - my buddy can't come pick me up for work? - my babysitter can't come over to watch the kid? etc. I'd think that the "life, liberty" part would cover that. Jeez, I know projects are bad, but they're not barricaded like the Warsaw ghetto, even in Nashville. - OS

Well, I dunno. But the part I highlighted just can't be right, surely. If nothing else, I bet the Mormons go there. :-) Seriously, though, would think it's unconstitutional, period. I just looked at at lease off of Nashville Metropalitan Development and Housing Agency site, the controller of HUD funded "projects" and found no mention of firearms at all. Nashville.gov - Metropolitan Development and Housing Agency - Housing - Families - OS

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Got any documentation on that? It's my understanding that public housing may not bar legal possession of firearms within the residence, but private housing may, as with any other prohibitions that the landlord may require in the lease. As far as "being on the streets" with a gun, are these projects you mention posted or something? If they are city streets, legal carry of firearms cannot be banned on those streets. Obviously, anyone carrying a firearm without a permit is doing so illegally, posted or not. - OS

What's not to understand? You said guns are banned in projects. I wanted to know what projects, where, and by whom? - OS

Banned? What "projects"? What is banned? Who banned whatever is banned? - OS

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time Most comprehensive one I've ever seen. Leaves me speechless. - OS

Pretty low priority issue, I'd say, since so many states are on the verge of insolvency. - OS

They can post, just doesn't have any legal standing. Many states are that way. The two sources I mainly rely on are: NRA-ILA :: Handgunlaw.us Click on Nevada in both cases to get a pretty comprehensive guide. - OS

I don't think you have to worry. Would bet most of the farm it won't happen as long as we have ANY states where carry is not permitted at all, or even are MAY issue instead of SHALL issue. - OS

Ah, you are most certainly probably correct on this point. Are you sure TN even HAS the charge of DWI anymore?I, having some, um, experience in this area, can assure you that when your BAC is over .08 you are charged with DUI. Driving under the influence. - OS edit: I see you edited. :-)

I'm familiar with it, FG, my point is, there is not a penalty specified for carrying and consuming in the new statute. That may or may not be true.Driving "under the influence", hence why it's called DUI, has a certain blood alcohol level associated with the charge. Would not CUI (carrying under the influence) need same? - OS

Doesn't seem to be anything in state law that allows them to prevent it. - OS

This is different from the Winchester Xpert HV 500 packs they've been selling for a good while? (lead headed hollowpoints). - OS

Oddly, there seems to be no penalty specified if you DO have a beer or two while packing. Unless this is considered "under the influence" as addressed by 39-17-1321. Does "under the influence" mean ANY alcohol or "legally drunk"? If "legally drunk", then seems there is no penalty for consuming while carrying unless reaching that level. - OS

I'm sure it's not a corporate policy, as I have bought ammo after 10 in some myself. Just frees up having to have someone with level to authority to have a key. Wallys restock storewide overnight, too, so it's one more person to help with that without having to hire someone. - OS

I do believe TICS shuts down then, so they'd be no way to get a check done. Could an FFL member confirm? - OS

Yeah, shows same as the handgunlaw link. "public building" is the term for govt. buildings No mention of private biz being able to post that I could see. Lord knows I wish it were this way in TN. - OS

FWIW, Handgunlaw.us does not show that anyplace except a govt. building can post a binding no carry sign. http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/nevada.pdf - OS

All taken in, and I understand your intent. Unlike you, I've never been formally trained, was not in the service, and have never shot anyone (though I've had 3 close encounters). However, I've shot enough to feel competent with the weapons I have, and think I have the mindset to use them competently under stress - I can't prove that unless the Bad Thing happens, and I hope I never have to. But I don't have to be a tactical genius to know that I want something that will give me the best chance of a one shot stop. I know that concept is largely a fallacy on its face, but certainly among my small arsenal, my shotgun with 00 buck stands the best chance of that. I can't carry my shottie around with me, but it's the weapon of choice within my domicile. I also don't face the possibilty of collateral harm to a family in residence, but do have the possibity of harm to other apartment residents. However, regardless of the situation, my feeling is that if indeed your intruder(s) is/are not stopped quickly, the overall odds of harm to you and yours is much higher than the odds of collateral harm. As far as your feeling that a scattergun with birdshot in it is best in the hands of your wife and son, I just can't see it. Seems to me you should ensure that if indeed they have access to the weapon, on the outside chance they need to use it, you should train them at least to the minimum point of their feeling as confident in the weapon's use as I am in mine, and keep it loaded with the same best odds load that you, a LEO, or even I would use in a extreme situation. And that ain't birdshot. But certainly, your choices are surely as valid as mine, as I have no special insights into something I've never had to carry to completion. best, - OS

oops, dupe, dunno how it happened.

Cool. Just goes to show that there really isn't a structural reason for low vs high brass construction. As I keep reading, has just become marketing .. high brass perceived as "more powerful". I guess if it weren't for that, there wouldn't be anything but low brass; after all, it must be smidgen cheaper to make, just for the total weight/cost of brass material. - OS

With all due respect, this sounds extremely counter productive to the mission, which is to STOP the assailant ... I'd say that birdshot is one of the LEAST effective things you could launch at a determined bad guy to STOP him. If you are close enough to be sure of blinding the BG, you're sure close enough to use buckshot and keep it all IN the BG, or not very far out his backside. You don't have to worry about it penetrating flesh deeply enough to be effective, either. You'd take a shot in your home without actually SEEING the target? No wonder you are worried about collateral damage! If could stop their progress with birdshot, why have 00? If you're going to use 00 (which you should), why use couple rounds of birdshot? You just want to give the BG a better chance to shoot YOU? Very sporting of you, I must say! Not sure you should be too jovial about it, considering the subject of protecting family.- OS

Before, they didn't have to have the signs. Could "opt out" of that by resolution. Look at the rest of the statute. There are no "no guns" signs anywhere in Knoxville park/greenway system that I can recall. Certainly not the sections I frequent. - OS

Question remains, though, WHY are low brass shells inherently lower power? They have same length and volume, can hold same amount of powder and shot. Come to think of it, though, I don't know that I've ever seen 00 or slug in low brass shells? - OS EDIT: According to ShotgunWorld.com, there is NO diff between capability of high and low brass shells anymore. The only diff there ever was, was in extraction reliablity of paper shells. "High brass shells are shotgun shells that have a brass base (or head) that extends up the body by about 3/4" or so. Low brass hulls extend up the body by 1/8-1/4" or so. In paper hulls (now rarely seen) high brass is used for reliability of extraction. High brass was used in the early plastic hulls to prevent splitting and burn thru; it is mostly no longer needed due to improved plastics. In modern shot shells, the only real difference between high brass and low brass hulls is a marketing difference. Powerfull factory loads use high brass hulls, while standard or target loads use the low brass hulls. There is no correlation between the mechanical strength of the hull and amount of brass in the base."